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Yet another Eton E1 release date
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Promises from the folks who know how to build the best vaporware in the
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Pathetic. Truly pathetic.
Steve |
wrote in message oups.com... Pathetic. Truly pathetic. Steve Hi Steve, Hope all is well with you. a Sharper Image store in Ark has 30 of them. I called my local SI here in Miami and they already have an order number for them #XD413 The saleman told him he doesn't know when it will come in but it's advertised in their Aug. catalog already. We should see it in a couple more weeks. Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky |
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If I were going to buy one, I'd at least hold out until a later
production run. If you buy one now, and if there are lots of quality control issues, then it may well conk out on you on day 61. And I bet it won't perform as well as your HF-150 even when it's working properly. Steve |
"mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html That radio I predict will be mediocre at best. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
I think it has a chance to be a good radio, especially with Drake's
engineering behind it. However, it's ultimate success will depend on whether Tecsun can maintain some semblance of QC. The endless delays probably have more to do with this variable than anything else. Brian Hill wrote: "mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html That radio I predict will be mediocre at best. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
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"mike0219116" wrote: I think it has a chance to be a good radio, especially with Drake's engineering behind it. However, it's ultimate success will depend on whether Tecsun can maintain some semblance of QC. The endless delays probably have more to do with this variable than anything else. Brian Hill wrote: "mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html That radio I predict will be mediocre at best. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I think not this long. The radio probably has had functional design problems. Maybe feature creep had a play in the delays. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Lucky wrote:
Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
"Brian Denley" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? Yes.... My KA-1102. Non selectable sideband. Michael |
Brian Denley wrote:
Lucky wrote: Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? Well, sort of. As I understand it, selectable sideband means that you can select USB or LSB. By that definition, the sideband on some cheapie Chinese radios, such as the Degen 1102, would be nonselectable sideband. The 1102 has a single "SSB" button with a thumbwheel to adjust the BFO. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Actually, an Eton employee has been using one of the new E1's for several weeks now and says it surpasses the Satellit 800. Remember, the new E1 has THREE bandwidths, a FAST/SLOW AGC, selectable sideband sync detection, as well as PASSBAND tuning. So the set is actually somewhere between the Drake SW8 and the Drake R8B. The only main features missing on this portable are a Noise Blanker and extra bandwidth filters for CW reception. It is also missing a ferrit antenna for MW reception but instead uses the whip antenna, as does the Drake SW8. I would have preferred a large ferrit antenna for complete portability rather than have to hook up a loop or other external antenna for MW DXing. This should be (and I am told IS) a killer portable. The reason given to me as to why the delays -- they are working out all quality control issues BEFORE they release any production units for retail as they don't want a repeat of what happened when the Satellit 800 came out. |
Brian Denley wrote:
Lucky wrote: Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? I believe SW-8 was so equipped. :) |
Over in the Yahoo Eton E1 group, there is a guy who claims to have one
already. Word has it, Sharper Image is the ONLY retailer to have about 30 or so ready for immediate shipment... "Telamon" wrote in message .... In article . com, "mike0219116" wrote: I think it has a chance to be a good radio, especially with Drake's engineering behind it. However, it's ultimate success will depend on whether Tecsun can maintain some semblance of QC. The endless delays probably have more to do with this variable than anything else. Brian Hill wrote: "mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html That radio I predict will be mediocre at best. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I think not this long. The radio probably has had functional design problems. Maybe feature creep had a play in the delays. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"Brian Denley" wrote: Lucky wrote: Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? The original Drake R8. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... I think it has a chance to be a good radio, especially with Drake's engineering behind it. However, it's ultimate success will depend on whether Tecsun can maintain some semblance of QC. The endless delays probably have more to do with this variable than anything else. Well I hope it works out for them but if it was me, I would have kept my mouth shut until it was done and then I would have marketed it. We'll see. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
I went to a local "Sharper Image" store in Avon CT and they haven't heard a
thing about it. I was hoping to sneak in and check it out, but they all looked perplexed or should I say looked perplexed at me like I was nuts the way i went on about it lol. |
On 23 Jul 2005 10:05:46 -0700, "mike0219116"
wrote: Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html Does this thing only have *one* antenna jack for all three bands? |
Jim Shaffer wrote: On 23 Jul 2005 10:05:46 -0700, "mike0219116" wrote: Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html Does this thing only have *one* antenna jack for all three bands? Well... under the 'Features' portion of the URL above you might have read the following: "External Antenna Connection for the addition of auxiliary antennas, e.g. professionally engineered shortwave antennas; long-wire shortwave antennas; specialized AM broadcast band antennas for enthusiasts of AM DX’ing; FM broadcast band antennas and XM antenna. " I may be wrong, but one would figure that there would be more than one connection. dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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I guess the extent of Drake's involvement is one of the big questions
here, isn't it? My understanding is that the E1 will not be sold by Drake; nor will Drake promote it in any way. This makes me suspect that Drake's about as involved with the E1 as Grundig was involved with the Satellit 800. Eton is just fond of riding on other manufacturer's long coat tails. Steve |
There used to be a Sharper Image store at Northpark Mall
www.visitnorthpark.com about thirteen miles North/Northeast of me at 1200 East County Line Road in Ridgeland.The only Sharper Image thingy I see in my phonebook now is Sharper Image Hail Salon at 3721 West Northside Drive Phone number is 601 366 7977.Hmmmm,Sharper Image women? cuhulin |
I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed
too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve |
I just now checked www.jr.com and they have the Sony 7600 GR radios
for sale for $149.88.Looks like a good deal to me. cuhulin |
wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve Well Steve it's too late for me. I already orded one from the Sharper Image. $500 plus $26 shipping and tax comes to a grand total of $563. They have a $20 off $100 coupon but wouldn't honor it for the radio giving me some excuse the "manufacturer" won't allow it. Nor will they honor the free shipping off $50 order. Problem is it's not online yet. Phone orders only right now. What can you do. The good part is I have one on the way and have a local SI rifht near me. If I don't like it within 60 days, it goes back. I'm happy I orderd it. The radio does more for me then those pieces of paper called money. Plus, I hardly ever treat myself to anything good. Hope it a good receiver!!!!! Lucky |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Brian Denley" wrote: Lucky wrote: Also, SI has a 60 day return policy at least here in Miami so if I don't like after 2 months, it just goes back. With slectable sideband on it, I can't want to try it. Plus sat radio if you want it one day. Lucky Has anyone ever heard of non-selectable sideband? The original Drake R8. Weren't the 2010 and NRD-535 as well?? --Mike L. |
wrote in message ups.com... Actually, an Eton employee has been using one of the new E1's for several weeks now and says it surpasses the Satellit 800. Remember, the new E1 has THREE bandwidths, a FAST/SLOW AGC, selectable sideband sync detection, as well as PASSBAND tuning. So the set is actually somewhere between the Drake SW8 and the Drake R8B. The only main features missing on this portable are a Noise Blanker and extra bandwidth filters for CW reception. It is also missing a ferrit antenna for MW reception but instead uses the whip antenna, as does the Drake SW8. I would have preferred a large ferrit antenna for complete portability rather than have to hook up a loop or other external antenna for MW DXing. This should be (and I am told IS) a killer portable. The Sat 800 had three bandwidths, Fast/Slow AGC, and SSB sync. Only addition is passband tunig. The reason given to me as to why the delays -- they are working out all quality control issues BEFORE they release any production units for retail as they don't want a repeat of what happened when the Satellit 800 came out. We'll see. IIRC, the Sat 800 took awhile to get to market too. --Mike L. |
"Lucky" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve Well Steve it's too late for me. I already orded one from the Sharper Image. $500 plus $26 shipping and tax comes to a grand total of $563. They have a $20 off $100 coupon but wouldn't honor it for the radio giving me some excuse the "manufacturer" won't allow it. Nor will they honor the free shipping off $50 order. Problem is it's not online yet. Phone orders only right now. What can you do. The good part is I have one on the way and have a local SI rifht near me. If I don't like it within 60 days, it goes back. I'm happy I orderd it. The radio does more for me then those pieces of paper called money. Plus, I hardly ever treat myself to anything good. Hope it a good receiver!!!!! Lucky That free shipping offer can be used if you tell them you'll order a $500 item only if you get that free shipping deal. Tell them paying tax is enough. That's you're not going pay for shipping also and to honor that coupon. So that should bring the price down to $535 with tax. Lucky |
mike0219116 wrote:
I think it has a chance to be a good radio, especially with Drake's engineering behind it. However, it's ultimate success will depend on whether Tecsun can maintain some semblance of QC. The endless delays probably have more to do with this variable than anything else. Brian Hill wrote: "mike0219116" wrote in message roups.com... Now it's August 5, 2005. http://universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html That radio I predict will be mediocre at best. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm One of the things that appeals to me about a radio design is it user friendliness...The older SAT 800 appeared at least ready to run without the "destructions" THIS one looks very unfiendly. I agree it will suffer poor buyer response from the O.F.'s.... The techie kids might eat it up but they aren't trending towards SW interest anyway, and it doesnt have a CD burner so it's DOA Yodar |
"Lucky" wrote in message ... "Lucky" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve Well Steve it's too late for me. I already orded one from the Sharper Image. $500 plus $26 shipping and tax comes to a grand total of $563. They have a $20 off $100 coupon but wouldn't honor it for the radio giving me some excuse the "manufacturer" won't allow it. Nor will they honor the free shipping off $50 order. Problem is it's not online yet. Phone orders only right now. What can you do. The good part is I have one on the way and have a local SI rifht near me. If I don't like it within 60 days, it goes back. I'm happy I orderd it. The radio does more for me then those pieces of paper called money. Plus, I hardly ever treat myself to anything good. Hope it a good receiver!!!!! Lucky That free shipping offer can be used if you tell them you'll order a $500 item only if you get that free shipping deal. Tell them paying tax is enough. That's you're not going pay for shipping also and to honor that coupon. So that should bring the price down to $535 with tax. Lucky OK, the E1 is now on the Sharper Image web site but you have to do a search for "shortwave" to bring it up. There are two coupons but it looks like only the free shipping one works which is the best one anyhow. You save the most since shipping is like $26-$30. PLus they have them in stock. I ordered on Mon, it went out yesterday from Arkansas and will be here this friday!!! Here are the coupons guys. First click on the coupn itself and it will open up the SI website. Then do a search for "shortwave" and order. The shipping will now be free. Have fun. $20 off $100: http://www.sharperimage.com/ls_0805_20off100/ Free shipping: http://www.sharperimage.com/ls_0805_fsh50/ Lucky |
Thanks for being a beta tester! :)
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mike0219116 wrote: Thanks for being a beta tester! :) Yeah, can't wait to see if he really whines about it. dxAce Michigan USA |
"mike0219116" wrote in message ups.com... Thanks for being a beta tester! :) No problem. I can beta test for 60 days before I decide to keep it. But, I think this radio is going to be good. It will probably be used more as a desktop radio then a portable. If you check out the features, you'll see it has a lot going for it if they all work well. Lucky |
wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve Steve I completely agree $500 may be over priced, but I don't know that yet. Plus, I hear it's just too big to be a real portable in the sense of being easily carried around. I bought it more for home use then outside. I really don't want to lug a $500 radio around outdoors. I will take it out, but I'll most likely use it at home with a good antenna. This radio has been in production so long, I'm sure they got it right. What I think may happen, or may have happened already is the radio has a DRM jack. The guy that bought it is a novice and said he couldn't really comment on the radio's SW abilities. Now that would bring the receiver up to date and be very useful. I hope there is a DRM jack. I haven't read a review on it yet. Or, maybe the next production will have DRM. Lucky |
wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure Eton wants this thing to be a success. I'd like it to succeed too, for that matter, as it would help the hobby. However, in my opinion, if Eton really wants the E1 to succeed, they should bring the price down....and I mean WAY down. When I could buy an RX-320D for around $350, it's awfully hard for me to rationalize buying the E1 unless I just really, really need portability. And I don't think there are very many people out there who need the portability so badly that they'd spend that much more money for what is ultimately a lesser receiver. Given what the E1 promises to deliver in the way of performance, I think it should go for around $250 and certainly not for more than $300. I mean, at the end of the day this receiver is a portable. It's not an R8B; it's not a 7030+; it's not an HF-150. It's a portable receiver with some extra doodads tacked on. I'd be willing to bet that my Sony SW77 could run rings around it on shortwave, but I hope I'm wrong. Steve Steve, if you read the specs on Eton's website, it has Double sideband sync like only the HF-150 had. "Single Sideband Synchronous AM Detector: selectable USB/LSB or double sideband to minimize adjacent frequency interference and fading distortion of AM signals." http://heh.pl/&OY Lucky |
Well, for your sake I hope it's a winner. I agree that it's too large
to carry around very often. I also wonder if the build quality would tolerate such wear and tear. It's a relatively large receiver and its case appears to be plastic. While plastic is usually just fine, when its used to construct larger radios it can bend, creak and produce a 'cheap' feel and appearance...this was one minor gripe I had about the Sat 800--though fortunately the E1 will be nowhere near the size of the 800. I guess they can't all be built like the HF-150....sigh. Steve |
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