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What equipment for SW?
Hi There,
I was curious to try the short wave radio listening so I went for my old and very cheapo Sony CFM-140L casette-recorder unit (16m; 19m; 21m; 25m; 31m; 41m; 49m). I don't remember how much it cost, but sure it was well below $30.00 I got a 1.5mm diameter coated wire "plugged" atop of the radio antenna, it was around 30 feet long (it, somehow, improved a wee bit the radio reception. No wonders though). Later I switched to the SW dial and I started to tune stations using the main manual dial and the fine dial knobs, reaching to listen to the following stations, not without big efforts using those analogic knobs: #1 RFI - French - France #2 BBC World Service - English - United Kingdom #3 DOA News - English - USA #4 Radio Canada Internacional - Spanish - Canada #5 World Wide Christian Radio - English - USA #6 Radio Bulgaria - Spanish - Bulgaria #7 kilo - papa - alpha - two - What was that? #8 Radio Internacional de China - Spanish - Vhina #9 Radio Exterieur d'Espagne - French - Spain #10 Radio Exterior de España - English - Spain #11 CBC News - English - Canada #12 Radio Rumania Internacional - Spanish - Rumania #13 Radio Netherlands - Spanish - The Netherlands #14 Canada International - English - Canda #15 Radio Japan - English - Japan #16 Radio Slovakia International - English - Slovakia The above list was collected after four hours of discontinued listening; besides those, I was able to listen to a few more stations from Moldova, Colombia, ... a station which appeared to broadcast a "repetitive nanny song" in clock intervals of around 15 seconds and 5 mute. Other stations which broadcasted "noise" and a plethora of stations bradcasting in German and Arabic (many many stations!). Almost all the radio programs were radiating news, all stations seemed to bradcast the same news despite being all from different countries. That's globalization! Although I find amusing to being able to listen to all those stations I must confess that listening only to news is really bothersome! The exception being, perhaps, Radio Internacional de China which had a varied grill. Therefore, as a naive short wave listener I would like to know whether using this dial all I will find will be news, always the same all over again the same day, or whether there are wider program grills. Moreover, from the list of stations I heard can sombody advise me on whether buying new equipment (receiver plus antena?) I will be able to pick up more stations? Something below $100.00, even if it is second hand. Eventually, as I am a completely novice in SW I would like to listen to all your advices concerning radio equipment (cheapo!), stations to listen to (English; French; Spanish), prime times, ... Keep it up! |
Hi there,
You might want to pick up a copy of the Passport to World Band Radio. The 2006 edition is out now, I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). You can find it at Barnes & Noble or Amazon. It lists all kinds of shortwave radio shows, many of which contain programs of special interest and music from all over the world. There are a lot of news programs on shortwave, but there is a lot of other interesting stuff too. As far as cheapo shortwave radios that perform decently, check out the Degen DE-1103 or Degen DE-1102 (a/k/a Kaito KA-1103 and Kaito KA-1102). You can find these on eBay, and the seller with the best service and prices is Liypn. Do an advanced search and check out his store, V-COM Collections. These radios go for less than $50 each and Liypn is an excellent seller. Of course, you could pay a lot more and get a lot better radio that would allow you to hook up an outdoor antenna and pull in really exotic, faint signals, but since you indicate you were looking for something cheap, I recommend both of these radios for their price/performance ratio. Good luck, Jackie |
Hi Teddy: at 4:00 Eastern time WBCQ , 7.415 broadcasts " Financial Survival 2000" - which is DEFINITLY not the normal news hour.. Alex Jones ( Somewhere on WWCR) at night also rails against Atrocities commited by Space Aliens. among other things AND . . If you listen to the BBC, you will eventually hear some in - depth reporting of items from Africa & othere environs you won't hear any where else. Radio New Zealand covers Street Crime all over the pacific.. & then you get weather reports from Aukland.. Whilst Radio Canda will tell you aboout Fish, Fishing, Fish Prices.. and Fish By Products.. - So keep listening Teddy Bear wrote: Hi There, I was curious to try the short wave radio listening so I went for my old and very cheapo Sony CFM-140L casette-recorder unit (16m; 19m; 21m; 25m; 31m; 41m; 49m). I don't remember how much it cost, but sure it was well below $30.00 I got a 1.5mm diameter coated wire "plugged" atop of the rad= io antenna, it was around 30 feet long (it, somehow, improved a wee bit the radio reception. No wonders though). Later I switched to the SW dial and I started to tune stations using the main manual dial and the fine dial knobs, reaching to listen to the following stations, not without big efforts using those analogic knobs: #1 RFI - French - France #2 BBC World Service - English - United Kingdom #3 DOA News - English - USA #4 Radio Canada Internacional - Spanish - Canada #5 World Wide Christian Radio - English - USA #6 Radio Bulgaria - Spanish - Bulgaria #7 kilo - papa - alpha - two - What was that? #8 Radio Internacional de China - Spanish - Vhina #9 Radio Exterieur d'Espagne - French - Spain #10 Radio Exterior de Espa=F1a - English - Spain #11 CBC News - English - Canada #12 Radio Rumania Internacional - Spanish - Rumania #13 Radio Netherlands - Spanish - The Netherlands #14 Canada International - English - Canda #15 Radio Japan - English - Japan #16 Radio Slovakia International - English - Slovakia The above list was collected after four hours of discontinued listening; besides those, I was able to listen to a few more stations from Moldova, Colombia, ... a station which appeared to broadcast a "repetitive nanny song" in clock intervals of around 15 seconds and 5 mute. Other stations which broadcasted "noise" and a plethora of stations bradcasting in German and Arabic (many many stations!). Almost all the radio programs were radiating news, all stations seemed to bradcast the same news despite being all from different countries. That's globalization! Although I find amusing to being able to listen to all tho= se stations I must confess that listening only to news is really bothersome! The exception being, perhaps, Radio Internacional de China which had a varied grill. Therefore, as a naive short wave listener I would like to know whether us= ing this dial all I will find will be news, always the same all over again the same day, or whether there are wider program grills. Moreover, from the l= ist of stations I heard can sombody advise me on whether buying new equipment (receiver plus antena?) I will be able to pick up more stations? Something below $100.00, even if it is second hand. Eventually, as I am a completely novice in SW I would like to listen to a= ll your advices concerning radio equipment (cheapo!), stations to listen to (English; French; Spanish), prime times, ... =20 Keep it up! |
"Buzzygirl" wrote in message ... Hi there, You might want to pick up a copy of the Passport to World Band Radio. The 2006 edition is out now, I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). You can find it at Barnes & Noble or Amazon. It lists all kinds of shortwave radio shows, many of which contain programs of special interest and music from all over the world. There are a lot of news programs on shortwave, but there is a lot of other interesting stuff too. It usually comes out in October, unless they changed their schedule this year. As far as cheapo shortwave radios that perform decently, check out the Degen DE-1103 or Degen DE-1102 (a/k/a Kaito KA-1103 and Kaito KA-1102). You can find these on eBay, and the seller with the best service and prices is Liypn. Do an advanced search and check out his store, V-COM Collections. These radios go for less than $50 each and Liypn is an excellent seller. Of course, you could pay a lot more and get a lot better radio that would allow you to hook up an outdoor antenna and pull in really exotic, faint signals, but since you indicate you were looking for something cheap, I recommend both of these radios for their price/performance ratio. Personally, I'd advice an inexpensive radio that's not something for the junk pile (like the Coby model). If you like it, you can spring for something better. If you don't, you're only out $50 bucks or so. Beware, however; you can get bitten pretty hard by the bug and you'll end up spending copious time and money on it if not careful. I suppose that it's money better spent than hanging out at the bars, tho. --Mike L. |
for less than $100, if you don't mind buying used, I would suggest a
gently used Sony ICF-SW7600G. Be careful, Sony has made a variety of radios in the 7600 line (some very good, some not so good). The newest in the line is the 7600GS, but that'll set you back around $160, if memory serves. It's predecessor, the 7600G, had fewer memories but has nice features like single sideband reception and sync detection (advantages of sync detection is a matter of some debate; some think it helps, some don't). I had one for several years before trading up to a ICF-2010 (on which I can say the sync detection *definitely* helps) and haven't looked back. But for $100 the 7600G is a lot of radio. I also see the Sangean ATS-909 (and it's rebranded brother, the Radio Shack DX-398) selling for $50 to $150 used. If you are into FM, it has RDS built in. It has continuous SW coverage like the 7600G. I can't attest to the dx qualities of this radio though. |
"Buzzygirl" wrote in message ... [snip] As far as cheapo shortwave radios that perform decently, check out the Degen DE-1103 or Degen DE-1102 (a/k/a Kaito KA-1103 and Kaito KA-1102). You can find these on eBay, and the seller with the best service and prices is Liypn. Do an advanced search and check out his store, V-COM Collections. These radios go for less than $50 each and Liypn is an excellent seller. Of course, you could pay a lot more and get a lot better radio that would allow you to hook up an outdoor antenna and pull in really exotic, faint signals, but since you indicate you were looking for something cheap, I recommend both of these radios for their price/performance ratio. Ditto. The DE1103 is my choice (I have the 1102 as well). They both have SSB capability and performance vs. cost can't be beat. The 1103 is sensitive enough off the built in telescoping antenna that you won't need to add much, if any, wire. Liypn has sold me 3 radios, 2 arrived in seven days and 1 took only 6 days from date of shipping. Here's his eBay store address: http://stores.ebay.com/V-COM-COLLECTIONS By the way, I don't know why the 1102 is more expensive than the 1103, but it is. Maybe buzzygirl, or another person who owns both can tell me? The Sony 7600GR is excellent as well, but around 3 times the cost. Shop around online for the best deal and low cost, or free, shipping if you decide on that one. |
Buzzygirl wrote:
Hi there, You might want to pick up a copy of the Passport to World Band Radio. The 2006 edition is out now, I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). You can find it at Barnes & Noble or Amazon. It lists all kinds of shortwave radio shows, many of which contain programs of special interest and music from all over the world. There are a lot of news programs on shortwave, but there is a lot of other interesting stuff too. Passport comes out in October, I believe. Two months or so away. Best to buy it from their website www.passband.com. A bookstore may not have the most recent version. As far as cheapo shortwave radios that perform decently, check out the Degen DE-1103 or Degen DE-1102 (a/k/a Kaito KA-1103 and Kaito KA-1102). You can find these on eBay, and the seller with the best service and prices is Liypn. Do an advanced search and check out his store, V-COM Collections. These radios go for less than $50 each and Liypn is an excellent seller. Of course, you could pay a lot more and get a lot better radio that would allow you to hook up an outdoor antenna and pull in really exotic, faint signals, but since you indicate you were looking for something cheap, I recommend both of these radios for their price/performance ratio. If he's looking for something cheap, either one of those Degens will do. The 1102 is easier to use ergonomically, so for a new listener, I would recommend it. The 1103 is the same or slightly better in performance, but its layout can be intimidating to some people. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
"Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... It usually comes out in October, unless they changed their schedule this year. You're right -- I noticed an ad for it in the most recent issue of Monitoring Times, but didn't notice a release date. I thought August would probably be too early to release the 2006 edition. Jackie |
"Sanjaya" wrote in message nk.net... By the way, I don't know why the 1102 is more expensive than the 1103, but it is. Maybe buzzygirl, or another person who owns both can tell me? Y'know, I've wondered that myself, and I really am not sure why the 1102 is the more expensive of the two radios. Beats me! Jackie |
Maybe they cut some features in the 1103's or found a way to make them
cheaper. cuhulin |
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"Teddy Bear" wrote: Hi There, I was curious to try the short wave radio listening so I went for my old and very cheapo Sony CFM-140L casette-recorder unit (16m; 19m; 21m; 25m; 31m; 41m; 49m). I don't remember how much it cost, but sure it was well below $30.00 I got a 1.5mm diameter coated wire "plugged" atop of the radio antenna, it was around 30 feet long (it, somehow, improved a wee bit the radio reception. No wonders though). Later I switched to the SW dial and I started to tune stations using the main manual dial and the fine dial knobs, reaching to listen to the following stations, not without big efforts using those analogic knobs: #1 RFI - French - France #2 BBC World Service - English - United Kingdom #3 DOA News - English - USA #4 Radio Canada Internacional - Spanish - Canada #5 World Wide Christian Radio - English - USA #6 Radio Bulgaria - Spanish - Bulgaria #7 kilo - papa - alpha - two - What was that? #8 Radio Internacional de China - Spanish - Vhina #9 Radio Exterieur d'Espagne - French - Spain #10 Radio Exterior de España - English - Spain #11 CBC News - English - Canada #12 Radio Rumania Internacional - Spanish - Rumania #13 Radio Netherlands - Spanish - The Netherlands #14 Canada International - English - Canda #15 Radio Japan - English - Japan #16 Radio Slovakia International - English - Slovakia The above list was collected after four hours of discontinued listening; besides those, I was able to listen to a few more stations from Moldova, Colombia, ... a station which appeared to broadcast a "repetitive nanny song" in clock intervals of around 15 seconds and 5 mute. Other stations which broadcasted "noise" and a plethora of stations bradcasting in German and Arabic (many many stations!). Almost all the radio programs were radiating news, all stations seemed to bradcast the same news despite being all from different countries. That's globalization! Although I find amusing to being able to listen to all those stations I must confess that listening only to news is really bothersome! The exception being, perhaps, Radio Internacional de China which had a varied grill. Therefore, as a naive short wave listener I would like to know whether using this dial all I will find will be news, always the same all over again the same day, or whether there are wider program grills. Moreover, from the list of stations I heard can sombody advise me on whether buying new equipment (receiver plus antena?) I will be able to pick up more stations? Something below $100.00, even if it is second hand. Eventually, as I am a completely novice in SW I would like to listen to all your advices concerning radio equipment (cheapo!), stations to listen to (English; French; Spanish), prime times, ... You did a good job in a few hours time with a cheap portable. Imagine what you could do with a good table top radio and an out door antenna. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Teddy Bear" wrote: Hi There, I was curious to try the short wave radio listening so I went for my old and very cheapo Sony CFM-140L casette-recorder unit (16m; 19m; 21m; 25m; 31m; 41m; 49m). I don't remember how much it cost, but sure it was well below $30.00 I got a 1.5mm diameter coated wire "plugged" atop of the radio antenna, it was around 30 feet long (it, somehow, improved a wee bit the radio reception. No wonders though). Later I switched to the SW dial and I started to tune stations using the main manual dial and the fine dial knobs, reaching to listen to the following stations, not without big efforts using those analogic knobs: #1 RFI - French - France #2 BBC World Service - English - United Kingdom #3 DOA News - English - USA #4 Radio Canada Internacional - Spanish - Canada #5 World Wide Christian Radio - English - USA #6 Radio Bulgaria - Spanish - Bulgaria #7 kilo - papa - alpha - two - What was that? #8 Radio Internacional de China - Spanish - Vhina #9 Radio Exterieur d'Espagne - French - Spain #10 Radio Exterior de España - English - Spain #11 CBC News - English - Canada #12 Radio Rumania Internacional - Spanish - Rumania #13 Radio Netherlands - Spanish - The Netherlands #14 Canada International - English - Canda #15 Radio Japan - English - Japan #16 Radio Slovakia International - English - Slovakia The above list was collected after four hours of discontinued listening; besides those, I was able to listen to a few more stations from Moldova, Colombia, ... a station which appeared to broadcast a "repetitive nanny song" in clock intervals of around 15 seconds and 5 mute. Other stations which broadcasted "noise" and a plethora of stations bradcasting in German and Arabic (many many stations!). Almost all the radio programs were radiating news, all stations seemed to bradcast the same news despite being all from different countries. That's globalization! Although I find amusing to being able to listen to all those stations I must confess that listening only to news is really bothersome! The exception being, perhaps, Radio Internacional de China which had a varied grill. Therefore, as a naive short wave listener I would like to know whether using this dial all I will find will be news, always the same all over again the same day, or whether there are wider program grills. Moreover, from the list of stations I heard can sombody advise me on whether buying new equipment (receiver plus antena?) I will be able to pick up more stations? Something below $100.00, even if it is second hand. Eventually, as I am a completely novice in SW I would like to listen to all your advices concerning radio equipment (cheapo!), stations to listen to (English; French; Spanish), prime times, ... You did a good job in a few hours time with a cheap portable. Imagine what you could do with a good table top radio and an out door antenna. You know what this means, don't you?? Teddy's going to have to have a lot of shelf space to handle a lot of radios in a quest for the "perfect" radio... ;-) --Mike L. |
You know what this means, don't you?? Teddy's
going to have to have a lot of shelf space to handle a lot of radios in a quest for the "perfect" radio... ;-) Ouch! That's gonna be expensive! I'll start looking for something cheap on eBay, the better :p |
And go to a building supply store and buy lots of shelf brackets and
boards for shelves and to a Goodwill store and buy some book cases. cuhulin |
gently used Sony ICF-SW7600G. Be careful, Sony has made a variety of
I assume (being unliterate in the SW stuff) the Sony ICF-SW7600G will be the one to look for (used). Up to now I found some (not on the inexpensive side though...) Sony ICF-SW7600G and Sony ICF-SW7600GR for sale. Is there any special requirement for an antena (if I need one)? |
And go to a building supply store and buy lots of shelf brackets
and boards for shelves it's also a good source for antennae projects. I built a great little 10m dipole from conduit, worked the world with that and 5 and 25 watts, with a tuner it doubled as a decent enough SWL ant. as well Cost? $5 if that... |
gently used Sony ICF-SW7600G. Be careful, Sony has made a variety of
Just one more beginner question, it is a GRUNDIG S350 model any comparable to that Sony ICF-SW7600G? |
"Teddy Bear" wrote in message ... gently used Sony ICF-SW7600G. Be careful, Sony has made a variety of Just one more beginner question, it is a GRUNDIG S350 model any comparable to that Sony ICF-SW7600G? No. I use my BCL 2000 (Tecsun OEM S350) only for MW. If you are interested in Shortwave go with the Sony 7600 or a Degen/Kaito 1103. |
in Shortwave go with the Sony 7600 or a Degen/Kaito 1103.
Is the Sony 7600 comparable "feature by feature" to the Degen / Kaito 1103 (or 1102)? The Degen / Kaito seems to be better priced, maybe I could even afford it new in the box. |
"Teddy Bear" wrote in message ... in Shortwave go with the Sony 7600 or a Degen/Kaito 1103. Is the Sony 7600 comparable "feature by feature" to the Degen / Kaito 1103 (or 1102)? The Degen / Kaito seems to be better priced, maybe I could even afford it new in the box. Performance for dollar spent = Degen 1103. |
Looking at a review of the 1103. I've inserted 7600-relevant comments
starting with ME: The Basics The radio measures 6.5"(w) x 4" (h) x 1" (d) and weighs approximately 1 lb. with 4 AA cells loaded. Size wise, it is somewhat smaller than the Sony 7600g but larger than the Degen DE1102. Frequency Coverage AM/MW 520 - 1710 kHz LW 100 - 519 kHz FM 76 - 108 MHz SW 1711 - 29999 kHz ME: same as 7600G While the DE1103 has ten shortwave band segments identified, the coverage is indeed continuous. The radio is capable of receiving single sideband on LW, MW and SW. Tuning The DE1103 can be tuned several ways: (1) Direct frequency entry. Using this method, you enter the frequency from the "keypad" (a single horizontal row of buttons, 0 .... 9) and then hit the Bands+/AM button unless you are on FM, where you use the Band-/FM button. ME: 7600G, similar. except it has a more traditional keypad. (2) Automatic scanning. This can be accomplished by holding the Band+ or Band- button down for a few seconds. The radio will scan until a strong station is found. It will pause for 3 seconds and then continue. In auto-scan mode, the tuning increments are 1 kHz for MW/LW, 5 kHz for SW and 100 kHz on FM. ME: 7600G, basically the same, except it tunes in 1khz increments in SW, which really helps if you are looking for utility stations and, in come cases, pirates. (also tunes FM in .05 mhz) One way that the 1103 cannot be tuned is from up/down buttons. These are not provided in this radio. ME: 7600G does have up and down buttons. No tuning knob per se though. Help, I'm trapped in a band segment! The 1103 has "carved" out ten shortwave band segments. One example would be the 41 meter band from 6500-7500 kHz. An annoying feature of the radio, is that once you are in a band segment, you can't manually tune out of it. Example - you are tuning in the upper range of the 41 meter band...as you use the knob and move past 7500, you are returned to the low end of that band segment at 6500. The only way to get to 7501 is to punch in 7-5-0-1 and hit the Band+/AM button (or get there with a memory pre-set button). Not very convenient. It operates this way in auto-scan, which I can understand. ME: 7600G will tune continuously from the lower to upper limit of SW if you want. Performance A couple of general notes. The wide-narrow filter on the DE1103 is very effective. It does a really good job of whacking back adjacent channel interference. Listeners will be impressed with both selectivity and sensitivity. ME: The 7600G has one AM filter, kinda between "wide" and "narrow". I think it's a tad narrow. Two filters would be better. AM/MW The DE1103 is a good performer on MW. Selectivity seems to be the strong point of the radio on MW. It did a pretty good job of reducing the sidebands of my local MW pest station. Sensitivity on MW was average to above average. You can really see the effectiveness of the narrow filter on MW. ME: 7600G is ok for MW but not spectacular, though it pairs nicely with a passive loop like the select-a-tenna. FM Performance on FM is above average. Stereo reception is possible by using headphones. It does a pretty good job of detecting weak stations. The DE1103 allows you to switch between mono and stereo. ME: 7600G is pretty good for FM, not as good as the ATS-909 or the 2010. The 7600 lacks a mono switch, which i think is indispensable when listening to weak FM. SW The DE1103 performs very well on shortwave. I can copy the major shortwave broadcasters easily. As mentioned earlier, the narrow filter setting is quite effective. To test its ability to copy weak signals, I gave it a good workout in the amateur 80, 40 and 20 meter bands. Both sideband and cw signals were easily copied. The 1 kHz tuning increment and the fine tuning (BFO) control works well to copy sideband. Often times, shortwave portables fall short higher in frequency. I checked up in the CB 11 meter band and got good copy up there. ME: 7600G- SSB copy is very good. Like the 1103 it has a BFO wheel. I like that a lot. LW There isn't much to listen to in my part of the world, but I was able to copy a few beacons here. ME: 7600G, basically the same. The expected local aeronautical beacons come in just fine. Audio The 3" speaker provides enough audio when the 1103 pulls in a station that is strong enough to hear. As you would expect, better audio is obtained by listening through headphones. ME: 7600G, probably better. There is suprisingly good bass for a speaker this small, but the high end in AM mode is a little lacking. FM sounds great. Left Side From Top to Bottom: External antenna jack for SW/MW Local/DX switch headphone jack DC power jack ME: 7600G has an external jack for SW/MW antennas. Together with the Sony AN-LP1, it digs out a lot of signals (for an inside antenna). Right Side From Top to Bottom: Tuning knob (which has many uses on the 1103) Narrow-Wide filter (News-Music on FM) Fine tuning (BFO) for sideband Line Out jack The light on/off switch is located next to the line out jack. ME: Looks like the 1103 has a similar SSB facility as the 7600G. the 7600G can select betw USB and SSB. Not sure if the 1103 can. Ergonomics Here is the radio's weakness. Let's start with the whole display concept of the 1103. This is a digital radio with a simulated analog dial in the 12 marked band segments (FM, MW and the 10 SW segments). As you tune across a band segment, the digital display tells you what precise frequency you are on. A digital pointer "sweeps" across the fake analog dial and approximates your position there. The pointer does not move continuously however. Example, you have to tune 30 kHz on MW before the pointer moves. So, the pointer points to 670 as you tune to that frequency. It stays there until you reach 700 when it jumps up. The marker jumps with every 25 kHz of tuning on shortwave. The analog simulation seems entirely unnecessary to me. It is like having a wris****ch with the traditional hour/minute hands and then a digital display to go along with it. Why? This analog simulation takes up a lot of space on the 1103, is usually not accurate and you will need to grab the bifocals to read the teeny numbers on the simulated dial. ME: Sounds like an older Sony design that also flopped. It seems ridiculous to me. Simply displaying the freq and meter band number ought to be plenty. Volume Control Where is the volume control, where is the knob? Degen has turned the most basic of operations into an engineering exercise. To adjust the volume, you push a volume button and then turn the tuning knob. Now that is not intuitive. I believe this was a poor design decision. To add insult to injury, once you have set your volume setting, you have to wait a few seconds for the volume icon to stop blinking. If you try to tune before it stops, all you do is readjust the volume level! ME: Okay, this feature would DRIVE ME CRAZY!! Excuse the shouting. Keypad I do not care for the single row of number buttons. We have all gotten used to the basic keypad or something very close. Unfortunately, so much space was used on the 1103 for the analog simulation, that there is no space for a standard keypad. ME: I have to agree with the reviewer. The 7600G has a more standard keypad layout. Backlight The backlight is quite effective in dark conditions. With the backlight on, all the buttons and display light up when you use any button or the main tuning dial. The downside to this, is that you have to make some kind of change (by pressing a button or moving the tuning knob) to get the lights to come on. ME: In my opinion, this is where a lot of radios fail in the ergonomics department. Why don't more radios use LEDs instead of this backlit LCD business? The LED is readable day or night. okay, okay, I'm backing away from the soapbox.. Radio ON and OFF Display With the radio on, the display shows the frequency, sleep (if selected), memory position and a relative strength meter. The strength meter shows 9 "bars" - however, it is really just a four position setting as it moves between 2-4-6-9 bars shown. With the radio off, the clock time shows along with any alarms set. ME: seems like the the 7600's meter is more accurate than this. The 7600G has to be turned off to view the clock, as well. It also has sleep, alarm and timer functions. Memories/Presets The 1103 provides 256 available memories. They are named in 16 groups of 16 presets. ME: Here's where the 1103 whips the 7600G, which only has 22 memories . Antennas AM/MW reception is via the internal ferrite loopstick. FM and SW are received off the 36" telescoping whip antenna. There is an antenna jack provided to connect an external antenna for SW and MW. ME: 7600G, same.. Power/Charger The 1103 runs on 4 AA cells. My test of the radio was not long enough to ascertain battery life. The radio comes equipped with 1300 mAh rechargeable NiMH cells. These provided batteries can be recharged right in the radio with its internal recharger. The radio can also be powered via AC. The DE1103 comes with a 220 volt AC adapter, so obtaining a 110 volt step down transformer-adapter is a must. ME: the 7600 gets about 25 hrs on 4 AAs. Other 7600G reviews he http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1215 here's the 7600 compared with the Grundig YB400PE and ATS-909 http://www.radiointel.com/portwars.htm |
Nawwwww,,,,, Nawwwwww,,,,,, all I want is to see some enter her tainment
and see some FIREWORKS from the boosh "ranch". cuhulin |
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ups.com... Volume Control Where is the volume control, where is the knob? Degen has turned the most basic of operations into an engineering exercise. To adjust the ME: Okay, this feature would DRIVE ME CRAZY!! Excuse the shouting. That's the reason why I don't think the 1103 a valable option, perhaps the 1102 would be a better choice? It seems to come at a nice price too! How the 1102 stands compared with the Sony and the Grundig? here's the 7600 compared with the Grundig YB400PE and ATS-909 http://www.radiointel.com/portwars.htm If I cannot find a 7600G /R at a good price (even used) then I'll look for a Grundig YB400 /PE, I assume it's a good radio... but I don't know. The synch detector included in the 7600 does it make really stand out of the croud? I don't consider the ATS-909 because its high power requiriments. Y'all help me! :p |
"Teddy Bear" wrote in message ... "michael_s" escribió en el mensaje ups.com... Volume Control Where is the volume control, where is the knob? Degen has turned the most basic of operations into an engineering exercise. To adjust the ME: Okay, this feature would DRIVE ME CRAZY!! Excuse the shouting. That's the reason why I don't think the 1103 a valable option, perhaps the 1102 would be a better choice? It seems to come at a nice price too! How the 1102 stands compared with the Sony and the Grundig? here's the 7600 compared with the Grundig YB400PE and ATS-909 http://www.radiointel.com/portwars.htm If I cannot find a 7600G /R at a good price (even used) then I'll look for a Grundig YB400 /PE, I assume it's a good radio... but I don't know. The synch detector included in the 7600 does it make really stand out of the croud? I don't consider the ATS-909 because its high power requiriments. Y'all help me! :p I own a KA-1102, KA-1101, PL-550 and Sony 7600gr. At one time I also owned a YB-400. The 7600gr is by far the best of all of them. The 1102 is a good little radio, but it is not in the same class with the 7600gr. The sync detector on the 7600gr is a valuable feature for sw program listening, but aside from that alone, it is a great all around portable radio. The 7600gr is a also a great portable radio for MW use too. For both MW use and sw program listening, the ssb selectable am sync is idea for cutting out interference or hets from adjacent signals. It also performs very well in ssb mode. The ergonomics are good, the build is solid, memory features are very good. General performance is excellent. Its sensitive and selective. It does well off of the whip and it can handle a substantial external antenna. It is also good with power usage. I use rechargeable batteries and I can get about 25 hours of usage out of a full charge. If you had a Sony 7600gr , YB-400 and KA-1102 to test out for a few weeks but could only keep one of them, I'm willing to bet that just about everyone would take the 7600gr. If you decided to buy the KA-1102 before you had a chance to use the 7600gr, you may like the KA-1102 just fine. After you got a chance to use the 7600gr, you'd think about your KA-1102... "hey this thing sux" -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
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