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MnMikew August 11th 05 03:00 PM

4 Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?(watch Charleston,SC)
 

"PRS" wrote in message
...
Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged

terror
attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005


Someone has been taking too many contrail pills.



EagleEye August 11th 05 03:11 PM

http://www.newsday.com/mynews/ny-usa...,3511144.story


John S. August 11th 05 03:11 PM


PRS wrote:
Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror
attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...targeneral.htm
The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P.
Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official
sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal
which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the
staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes
was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-
con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the
military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on
The Alex Jones Show.

Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged
when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in
Charleston, S.C,
http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fu...BFBB AC-F3CA-
BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114
where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally
intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false
flag staged attack.

This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the
morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go
live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that
he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a
nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.



Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from
September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that
time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation
room as a studio.

Earlier this week, Washington Post reported
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR2005080700843_pf.html
that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the
continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the
justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

American Conservative Magazine recently reported
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...05nukeiran.htm
that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror
attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a
nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as
it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for
their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush
and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an
ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and
shouldn't be viewed as speculation.


Yes, yes, I understand that you feel this way. The military-industrial
complex has entered into a vaguely defined conspiracy with the
globalists that is troubling to you. You should consider a medical
solution to control these schizophrenic tendencies before attempting to
post on this forum.


David August 11th 05 03:33 PM

On 11 Aug 2005 07:11:27 -0700, "John S." wrote:



Yes, yes, I understand that you feel this way. The military-industrial
complex has entered into a vaguely defined conspiracy with the
globalists that is troubling to you. You should consider a medical
solution to control these schizophrenic tendencies before attempting to
post on this forum.

Bull****. Northern Command is the Brownshirts.


[email protected] August 11th 05 04:15 PM

There isn't anything to that story.I checked www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin


David August 11th 05 05:05 PM

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:15:58 -0500, wrote:

There isn't anything to that story.I checked
www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...targeneral.htm


John S. August 11th 05 05:10 PM


wrote:
There isn't anything to that story.I checked
www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin


The only part of that fairy tale that was true was where the four star
had his command yanked. The rest of it is typical schizo ranting.

In another time the military would have given him a letter of reprimand
for banging some honey while still married. The military is under
pressure to put on the cleanest of all faces possible so they are going
overboard on cases like this.

I've got mixed feelings about this situation. On the one hand he is a
career soldier who knows the rules about conduct unbecoming a soldier
and the need for senior officers to set an example by their actions.
On the other hand I am somewhat troubled by the decision to ruin the
final hours of this guys career by yanking his command. I doubt that
they will go further with charges. Something less severe like a letter
of reprimand or strong dressing down by Rumsfeld would have been
appropriate imho.


John S. August 11th 05 05:15 PM


David wrote:
On 11 Aug 2005 07:11:27 -0700, "John S." wrote:



Yes, yes, I understand that you feel this way. The military-industrial
complex has entered into a vaguely defined conspiracy with the
globalists that is troubling to you. You should consider a medical
solution to control these schizophrenic tendencies before attempting to
post on this forum.

Bull****. Northern Command is the Brownshirts.


So tell me o wise one, what exactly is the signifigance of a brownshirt
or a Brownshirt.

Also, it sure looks like you and PRS are both sock puppets for the same
puppeteer.


[email protected] August 11th 05 05:30 PM

I dont believe everything I read at www.infowars.com
(prisonplanet) Since I am sooooooo Intelligent,I can very easily figure
out what is what.
cuhulin


David August 11th 05 06:00 PM

On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.

In my world, all the pieces fit. Vigilance!

''There can no longer be any doubt. America is transforming into a
police state. Local and state governments, megaglobal corporations and
even communist dictatorships are being merged globally into a colossal
world government.

This world government is hell-bent on consolidating the resources of
individuals, governments, sole-proprietorships, churches, charities,
political parties, and armies under its unaccountable, unelected
quasi-governmental bureaucracies, like the WTO, IMF, World Bank,
Central Banks,i.e. US Regional Governorship (Federal Reserve).

As individual as well as institutional resistance mounts to this
modern megalomaniacal takeover, the control-freak psychotics of the
CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group are using all of their
considerable influence to create a perceived enemy threat to the
expanding paramilitary forces bristling at every layer of government.

The new enemy, the new threat is, in reality, the lone individual
simply trying to live his or her life who wishes to control their own
destiny. Make no mistake, you are slated for dehumanization.

To you I ask the question: If we have gone along quietly with all of
the overt despotic outrages, like land grabbing, gun grabbing, the
attacks on national sovereignty, deindustrialization, out-of-control
regulation and an endless list of other horrors without becoming
violent, what is it that the establishment has planned, using its
occupational government, that is so bad that its social engineers know
that we will revolt in mass?

The preparations for mass oppression have been underway for decades.
Remember this, we are 280 million Americans. We outnumber the
dehumanizers and their power-mad minions conservatively 500 to 1.

Be aggressive, be bold, spread the word from coast to coast, never
turn in your guns, mobilize, use our most powerful weapon -- the truth
about the wickedness of world government, the enemy's own
publications, to discredit them with their own words.

Never surrender.

Alex Jones
12/05/00''




John S. August 11th 05 06:18 PM


David wrote:
On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.

In my world, all the pieces fit. Vigilance!

''There can no longer be any doubt. America is transforming into a
police state. Local and state governments, megaglobal corporations and
even communist dictatorships are being merged globally into a colossal
world government.

This world government is hell-bent on consolidating the resources of
individuals, governments, sole-proprietorships, churches, charities,
political parties, and armies under its unaccountable, unelected
quasi-governmental bureaucracies, like the WTO, IMF, World Bank,
Central Banks,i.e. US Regional Governorship (Federal Reserve).

As individual as well as institutional resistance mounts to this
modern megalomaniacal takeover, the control-freak psychotics of the
CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group are using all of their
considerable influence to create a perceived enemy threat to the
expanding paramilitary forces bristling at every layer of government.

The new enemy, the new threat is, in reality, the lone individual
simply trying to live his or her life who wishes to control their own
destiny. Make no mistake, you are slated for dehumanization.

To you I ask the question: If we have gone along quietly with all of
the overt despotic outrages, like land grabbing, gun grabbing, the
attacks on national sovereignty, deindustrialization, out-of-control
regulation and an endless list of other horrors without becoming
violent, what is it that the establishment has planned, using its
occupational government, that is so bad that its social engineers know
that we will revolt in mass?

The preparations for mass oppression have been underway for decades.
Remember this, we are 280 million Americans. We outnumber the
dehumanizers and their power-mad minions conservatively 500 to 1.

Be aggressive, be bold, spread the word from coast to coast, never
turn in your guns, mobilize, use our most powerful weapon -- the truth
about the wickedness of world government, the enemy's own
publications, to discredit them with their own words.

Never surrender.

Alex Jones
12/05/00''


Oh David, or Alex Jones or PRS, or whatever name you are using. You
have another question to answer in this thread.


dxAce August 11th 05 06:35 PM



David wrote:

On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.


Meanwhile, you got your meds, and you got Alex Jones.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David August 11th 05 06:43 PM

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:35:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.


Meanwhile, you got your meds, and you got Alex Jones.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Alex Jones got it from me.


dxAce August 11th 05 06:47 PM



David wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:35:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.


Meanwhile, you got your meds, and you got Alex Jones.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Alex Jones got it from me.


'Tardism? Maybe you should have used a condom.

Continue to tote, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] August 11th 05 06:49 PM

I did a Google news search for this story and I found no sources to
back up this theory that it was Byrnes' policy beliefs, let alone any
"coup" that led to this demoting. (Be VERY CAREFUL with that word
"coup" - it implies treason.) Of course, you can find just about any
conspiracy theory from any point of view you want on the internet and
"the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest".

Interestingly, both the leftish Amy Goodman (Democracy Now/ Pacifica)
and the rightish or whatever Arianna Huffington say very similar
things.

Both say that Byrnes was demoted over adultery and both say that it is
a bit strange that the army seems to regard torture of prisoners as
less important than adultery.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/200...uffpost/005427

[quote]

Here’s all the proof you need that the lunatics have taken over the
Pentagon and DoD asylums (that is, if the lunacy of their
Iraq policies hadn’t already convinced you):

Four-star General Kevin Byrnes, the third most senior of the Army’s 11
four-star generals, was sacked over allegations that he had an
extramarital affair. Meanwhile, Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez, the
senior commander in Iraq during the
Abu Ghraib torture and abuse scandal, is being considered for
promotion to, yep, four-star general.

Talk about your utterly perverted priorities.

Now, it long ago became clear that the Bushies inhabit a bizarro,
topsy-turvy universe -- a place where being utterly wrong about
slam-dunk WMD earns you a Medal of Freedom, dismissing a “Bin Ladin
Determined to Strike in U.S.” memo earns you a promotion to Secretary
of State, signing off on torture makes you AG material, another 123
American soldiers being blown up is the mark of an enemy in its “last
throes”, and outing an undercover
CIA agent (and then lying about it) merits a vote of confidence
instead of a pink slip.
[close quote]

http://www.democracynow.org/article..../08/11/1335209

[quote]
The Pentagon has refused to punish any senior military officers for
the prison abuse at Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo, but the army has taken
the rare action of relieving a four-star general of his command. But
not for any role in torture of prisoners. Gen. Kevin Byrnes stands
accused of having an extramarital affair with a civilian. The General
led the Army's Training and Doctrine Command at Fort Monroe, Virginia
and he was reportedly set to retire in November after 36 years of
service. Army officials say they could find no case of another
four-star general being relieved of duty in modern times.
[close quote]


MnMikew August 11th 05 07:05 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:15:58 -0500, wrote:

There isn't anything to that story.I checked
www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...targeneral.htm

I think the filter on your Burkie light is plugged. Or you too are a
contrail pill adict.



D Peter Maus August 11th 05 08:29 PM

David wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:35:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:


On 11 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0700, "John S." wrote:

You people cling to your fantasy. It's all you got.


Meanwhile, you got your meds, and you got Alex Jones.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Alex Jones got it from me.




Interesting, what some people take pride in.





[email protected] August 11th 05 08:57 PM

Anything that we say nowdays that isn't kissing (I am NOT a
bushBu..Kisser) up to the bush administration,bush & company, implies
treason and implies we are terrorist and traitors.Even saying we are
straight (I am straight) and we believe in GOD (I believe in GOD) and
saying we are Christians (might not seem like it sometimes,but Yes,I am
a Christian) and saying we believe in the United States Constitution (I
DO) and saying we believe in the Ten Commandments (I cerainly DO) and
saying we believe in home schooling (I believe in home schooling)
implies treason and terrorism and that we are traitors.In todays
World,according to bush and the bush administration/bush & company and
the so-called supreme court (UNsupreme court),,,,,,,,, The good guys are
the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys.Am I Lieing?
cuhulin


[email protected] August 11th 05 08:59 PM

Read the Geneva Conventions.(I did when I was in the U.S.Army) Terrorist
have NO Rights at ALL!
cuhulin


David August 11th 05 10:29 PM

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:05:03 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:



"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:15:58 -0500, wrote:

There isn't anything to that story.I checked
www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...targeneral.htm

I think the filter on your Burkie light is plugged. Or you too are a
contrail pill adict.

Contrails affect weather. Homey don't take drugs.



David August 11th 05 10:30 PM

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:29:38 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:



Interesting, what some people take pride in.

If you think the world presented on TV and the radio is the real one,
you are clinically psychotic.



D Peter Maus August 11th 05 10:58 PM

David wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:29:38 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:



Interesting, what some people take pride in.


If you think the world presented on TV and the radio is the real one,
you are clinically psychotic.




Interesting how, if you wait long enough, everything you say on
USENet gets quoted back to you.


Your statement are my exact words from a conversation 6 years ago.


But you keep snapping, there, Bubba. Eventually, you'll even say
something in context.


Your pattern of responses, though, and your inability to agree with
anyone, more than one or two transactions, anyway, reminds me very much
of someone who used to participate here. Someone who also was known,
occasionally, as Dave. Someone who also used to respond to disagreement
with personal insults.

Interesting that he took pride in that, too.


Have a nice day, David. Anyone who can quote Pittman, deserves at
least that much.





Brenda Ann August 11th 05 11:28 PM


"John S." wrote in message
ups.com...

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise

based in
Charleston, S.C,

http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fu...BFBB AC-F3CA-
BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114
where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was

originally
intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a

real false
flag staged attack.



Can tell you where this plot most likely came from:

[From a review of the motion picture "Special Bulletin", on Amazon.com]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...51236?v=glance


The whole "movie" is done to try and not be a movie at all. In the spirit of
H.G. Wells and "War of the Worlds" this 'movie' attempts to seem like an
actual news broadcast. You watch as a normal news day turns into a national
crisis. A group of anti-nuclear activists has assembled a make-shift atomic
device of comparable yield to the ones that destroyed Hiroshima and
Nagasaki. Thier demands are US nuclear disarmament, in the hopes that if
they forced the US to make the first move, the USSR would follow suit by
disarming in turn. The plot isn't very plausible, even by 80's standards,
but the film is interesting and enjoyable to watch.

And...

Special Bulletin is a TV movie about nuclear bomb threat in Charleston S.C.
and how on television network responses to crisis, when one of their
newcrews becomes in invovled. I really liked this movie, because of the way
that the network reacts to the crisis. In the beginning there is concern for
the hostages, but as the continues you see graphics and music being
developed. And it becomes less about the hostages and more about get the
story. Overall its a good movie.



[email protected] August 12th 05 12:06 AM

I read an article at www.rense.com last week about that movie.War
of the Worlds is one of my favorite old movies.I saw the movie at the
old Paramount theater that used to be on Capitol Street in Jackson back
in the 1950's when it first came out.That movie scared the crap out of
me.
cuhulin


MnMikew August 12th 05 06:25 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:05:03 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:



"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:15:58 -0500, wrote:

There isn't anything to that story.I checked
www.stratfor.com and
www.homelandsecurityus.com I didn't see anything at either of those
two websites about that story.
cuhulin


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...targeneral.htm

I think the filter on your Burkie light is plugged. Or you too are a
contrail pill adict.

Contrails affect weather.


sure they do alex.



RHF August 12th 05 06:36 PM

DaviD - " Contrails Affect Weather."
Clearly They Have "Affected" 'you' DaviD ~ RHF
. . . . .


BDK August 13th 05 12:17 AM

In article .com, rhf-
says...
DaviD - " Contrails Affect Weather."
Clearly They Have "Affected" 'you' DaviD ~ RHF
. . . . .




It's true. When 911 shut down flying, it was obvious.

BDK


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