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Bob August 17th 05 01:00 PM

One Perfect Pocket Radio?
 
I'm searching for the perfect pocket radio.

* Cover AM/FM/SW
* Digital tuning
* Smaller than 4" x 3" x 1"
* Weigh less than 10oz
* Use AA batteries
* Std 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
* Offer SSB
* Excellent & rugged "build" quality
* Excellent performance on *all* bands
* Priced less than $100
* I'd also like weather and TV (VHF & UHF) coverage.

A few candidates that I've come across and with the exception of
weather/TV for which I'd pay a little more where they fall short of my
criteria are;

Grundig YB400PE -
* Expensive and big

Grundig YB550PE -
* Still too big and no SSB

Eton E100 -
* No SSB and not great performance

Yaesu VR120
* Expensive, no SSB and terrible AM/FM


And what's up with the manufactures that seem similar? Eton & Grundig &
Tecsun? Kaito & Sangean?

Thanx,
Bob



[email protected] August 17th 05 01:10 PM

I'm afraid you're going to have shop for clothes with bigger pockets.
No pocket radio that I know of will do all this.

Steve


jamulc August 17th 05 02:17 PM

Steve is quite correct on this.

You might consider inflating your budget considerably and going with
either the Sony ICF-SW07 or ICF-SW100S, particularly if size is an
overriding concern.

Can't think of anything of this size class that's going to have weather
& TV while at the same time giving good performance on the SW bands.


[email protected] August 17th 05 02:43 PM

"* Excellent & rugged "build" quality"

Well, the SW100S build quality, while very professional, is not
something that you can bang around alot... especially with the cover
open. Yes, it's probably 3 times the $100 price he's looking for...

This is one of the reasons I keep on thinking about something like the
Degen DE-1105, which is $60 (incl international shipping on ebay) .
I'd miss the syncronous detection I have on my SW100S... I don't use
SSB much, so I wouldn't miss that.


[email protected] August 17th 05 02:55 PM

I own a small Westinghouse AM/FM/Shortwave shirtpocket size radio.It
used to work very good for it's size.One night when I was listening to
it and I got up to go to my kitchen,the radio slipped off of my couch
and hit my hardwood floor.I guess it landed on the tuneing knob when it
hit the floor.There is sort of a little cube block thingy the tuneing
knob is associated with in the radio and a lot of tiny solder points.The
assembly broke loose when the radio hit the floor,I wouldn't mind
getting the radio repaired,but I dont think I can repair the radio.It is
not a cheap quality radio like them Bell & Howell and similar cheap
quality radios.
cuhulin


David August 17th 05 02:59 PM

On 17 Aug 2005 08:00:23 -0400, Bob wrote:


I'm searching for the perfect pocket radio.

* Cover AM/FM/SW
* Digital tuning
* Smaller than 4" x 3" x 1"
* Weigh less than 10oz
* Use AA batteries
* Std 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
* Offer SSB
* Excellent & rugged "build" quality
* Excellent performance on *all* bands
* Priced less than $100
* I'd also like weather and TV (VHF & UHF) coverage.

A few candidates that I've come across and with the exception of
weather/TV for which I'd pay a little more where they fall short of my
criteria are;

Grundig YB400PE -
* Expensive and big

Grundig YB550PE -
* Still too big and no SSB

Eton E100 -
* No SSB and not great performance

Yaesu VR120
* Expensive, no SSB and terrible AM/FM


And what's up with the manufactures that seem similar? Eton & Grundig &
Tecsun? Kaito & Sangean?

Thanx,
Bob


Sangean ATS-606A is what I schlep around. No SSB. No Weather. No TV
(BTW, I've never seen a TV band radio with UHF. I also have a little
hand-held Casio TV).


[email protected] August 17th 05 03:07 PM

I did a www.devilfinder.com for,Pocket size Shortwave Radios.I
think that somewhere in the World there has got to be at least one
company that makes a great little AM/FM/Shortwave Radio.Who that company
is,(perhaps somewhere in Europe?) I dont know.
cuhulin


Mike S. August 17th 05 03:35 PM


In article .com,
jamulc wrote:
Steve is quite correct on this.

You might consider inflating your budget considerably and going with
either the Sony ICF-SW07 or ICF-SW100S, particularly if size is an
overriding concern.

Can't think of anything of this size class that's going to have weather
& TV while at the same time giving good performance on the SW bands.


Sangean ATS-636 ... well ... if they ever decide to manufacture it.




[email protected] August 17th 05 03:36 PM


Some features are in Some radios..
No Pocket SWR has SSB ;
- unless it's a Carpenters pants type pocket..

Degen DE1105 is supposed to be pretty good but
is in early build stages.. No SSB

Poke around in GOOGLE, check out radiointel.com

- But I don't think that animals been made yet

Heck, BUY Something.. !

You can live a full, happy life with

a shirt pocket SW radio with no SSB


jamulc August 17th 05 03:39 PM

Agreed, the SW100S would fail on the "rugged build" factor, as would
the SW07. Bob will need to prioritize from among these various
criteria, since he can't have it all...

Before acquiring the SW07, I used to carry a 606A around quite
frequently. It's a reasonably priced radio with decent performance,
although it's a tad larger (5 3/4 x 3 1/2 x 1 1/4) than what Bob is
looking for and, as noted by David, lacking in SSB.


David August 17th 05 03:40 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:55:22 -0500, wrote:

I own a small Westinghouse AM/FM/Shortwave shirtpocket size radio.It
used to work very good for it's size.One night when I was listening to
it and I got up to go to my kitchen,the radio slipped off of my couch
and hit my hardwood floor.I guess it landed on the tuneing knob when it
hit the floor.There is sort of a little cube block thingy the tuneing
knob is associated with in the radio and a lot of tiny solder points.The
assembly broke loose when the radio hit the floor,I wouldn't mind
getting the radio repaired,but I dont think I can repair the radio.It is
not a cheap quality radio like them Bell & Howell and similar cheap
quality radios.
cuhulin

That's called a variable capacitor.


[email protected] August 17th 05 04:08 PM

www.shop.com I saw an AM/FM/Shortwave portable radio there for $731.34
(seven hundred and thirty one dollars and thirty four cents) (for that
kind of money,it better! be a d..n good radio) (too rich for my blood)
But WAIT!,you save about one hundred and thirty one dollars! Sounds like
that coon on tv pedaling that oxyclean (phoney crap!) stuff and you can
hear him all the way to the Moon and back.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 17th 05 04:14 PM

Stay away from Sangean's,,, the front panels on them are no good.Stay
away from Tiny Tenna's too,they never work at all.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 17th 05 04:21 PM

SSB,that Sangean ATS 909 radio I bought from www.ccrane.com (and I
sent that no good piece of plastic JUNK back to ccrane) had SSB.I
checked it out (SSB) once in a while and some guys on there were talking
about cooking some eggs.I can easily do without SSB.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 17th 05 04:24 PM

It's called a broken (like a broke d... dog Westinghouse radio,dude.
cuhulin


MnMikew August 17th 05 04:47 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On 17 Aug 2005 08:00:23 -0400, Bob wrote:


I'm searching for the perfect pocket radio.

* Cover AM/FM/SW
* Digital tuning
* Smaller than 4" x 3" x 1"
* Weigh less than 10oz
* Use AA batteries
* Std 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
* Offer SSB
* Excellent & rugged "build" quality
* Excellent performance on *all* bands
* Priced less than $100
* I'd also like weather and TV (VHF & UHF) coverage.

A few candidates that I've come across and with the exception of
weather/TV for which I'd pay a little more where they fall short of my
criteria are;

Grundig YB400PE -
* Expensive and big

Grundig YB550PE -
* Still too big and no SSB

Eton E100 -
* No SSB and not great performance

Yaesu VR120
* Expensive, no SSB and terrible AM/FM


And what's up with the manufactures that seem similar? Eton & Grundig &
Tecsun? Kaito & Sangean?

Thanx,
Bob


Sangean ATS-606A is what I schlep around. No SSB. No Weather. No TV
(BTW, I've never seen a TV band radio with UHF. I also have a little
hand-held Casio TV).

Which Casio do you have David? I have a EV-670 3" that I got off Ebay. Not
too bad, though it dosent like the cold much.



David August 17th 05 05:09 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:47:37 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


Which Casio do you have David? I have a EV-670 3" that I got off Ebay. Not
too bad, though it dosent like the cold much.


I have the bottom of the line one. I'm a TV engineer and I just use
it to make sure my stations are on the air. It lives on my front
seat. If my employer would buy it, I'd have a demod with a drop-down
LCD panel. But since they don't, it's this:

http://www.epinions.com/_Casio_TV970__619519


David August 17th 05 05:13 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:14:26 -0500, wrote:

Stay away from Sangean's,,, the front panels on them are no good.Stay
away from Tiny Tenna's too,they never work at all.
cuhulin

How about a Radio Shack DX-399?

I like the 1 kHz fine tune. Very handy (PLL killed AM radio, IMHO).

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1889


Mark Zenier August 17th 05 05:49 PM

In article ,
David wrote:

(BTW, I've never seen a TV band radio with UHF. I also have a little
hand-held Casio TV).


Radio Shack had one, but they fell afoul of the ECPA (Electronics
Communication Privacy Act). And/Or Radio Shack's cell phone
marketing.

AMPS (the old analog cell phone system) was a great way to determine
business ethics. Ask the salesman if the phone system was private
and watch him lie his ass off. Analog cell phones used former TV
channels and the same modulation as TV, so any old TV set could pick
some or all of them on channels 70-83. And a UHF band TV sound receiver
would, too.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

[email protected] August 17th 05 06:08 PM

I do own one PLL radio.Sony AM/FM model number SRF-M40W radio I bought
brand new,it runs on two AA batteries and I also own a Sony
AM/FM/cassete radio I bought brand new,model number WM-AF604/BF604
radio,the radio runs on one AA battery,it is a very nice little
AM/FM/cassete radio and useing earbuds with it,(neither of the two Sony
radios have a built in speaker) and Dolby,it puts out terrific sound and
I own many,many other older Sony Radios too.Sony makes great things,so
does Casio.
cuhulin


MnMikew August 17th 05 06:55 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:47:37 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


Which Casio do you have David? I have a EV-670 3" that I got off Ebay.

Not
too bad, though it dosent like the cold much.


I have the bottom of the line one. I'm a TV engineer and I just use
it to make sure my stations are on the air. It lives on my front
seat. If my employer would buy it, I'd have a demod with a drop-down
LCD panel. But since they don't, it's this:

http://www.epinions.com/_Casio_TV970__619519


I watching Ebay for one of these
http://www.epinions.com/_Casio_EV4500__619514




Mark S. Holden August 17th 05 07:08 PM

MnMikew wrote:


I watching Ebay for one of these
http://www.epinions.com/_Casio_EV4500__619514




You might also look at the Trinity CT-V710.

It's a 7 inch wide screen LCD with a built in rechargeable battery.

Jim Hackett August 17th 05 07:39 PM

I think the Degen 1102 is as close as you're gonna get...



"Bob" wrote in message
. 14...
I'm searching for the perfect pocket radio.

* Cover AM/FM/SW
* Digital tuning
* Smaller than 4" x 3" x 1"
* Weigh less than 10oz
* Use AA batteries
* Std 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
* Offer SSB
* Excellent & rugged "build" quality
* Excellent performance on *all* bands
* Priced less than $100
* I'd also like weather and TV (VHF & UHF) coverage.

A few candidates that I've come across and with the exception of
weather/TV for which I'd pay a little more where they fall short of my
criteria are;

Grundig YB400PE -
* Expensive and big

Grundig YB550PE -
* Still too big and no SSB

Eton E100 -
* No SSB and not great performance

Yaesu VR120
* Expensive, no SSB and terrible AM/FM


And what's up with the manufactures that seem similar? Eton & Grundig &
Tecsun? Kaito & Sangean?

Thanx,
Bob





[email protected] August 17th 05 10:22 PM

If that degen doesn't burn out and burn your house down,that is.I flat
dont want one.The Great Escape movie is on tb (tb,Dennis the Menance)
now.
cuhulin


parallel61 August 18th 05 04:20 AM

I like the yaesu vr-500. As a communications receiver, it's a jack of
all trades master of none, but it still works pretty well for what it is
and it offers all the coverage and modes you are after in a diminutive
size. I find the biggest difficulty with this type of radio is antenna
as no single antenna will fit the bill. I have a couple of rubber ducks
for it and a wire on a bnc for hf listening. I still seek the perfect
antenna for it. Battery life on 2 aa's is decent as well. It uses the
3.5 mm jack, but is mono and not stereo.

Bob August 18th 05 11:54 AM

Thanx everyone for the feedback. Seems I'm not the only one at least
possibly interested in a good pocket radio.

How about if I double my budget to $200 and give a little on the size
requirement to maybe 5" x 4" or thereabouts. (I'd like to use this radio
while backpacking so too big or heavy and I suffer or the radio gets left
behind which is also the logic behind wanting rugged build quality and
weather band coverage)

I can probably live without the stereo headphone but still need std jack
size. SSB would be nice but I guess this can be low on the list.

Does this create new candidates?

If I were to consider something like the Grundig YB-500PE as a
possibility it appears to be the same as the Tecsun PL-230. Are "same"
radios the same quality or for instance does Grundig have higher
standards or slightly different technical spec? And who makes what for
who? Radio Shack = Sangean? Grundig = Tecsun? Kaito? Degen?

One other "twist" is digital broadcasts... Am I going to finally buy some
radio only to find nothing to listen to on a SW radio without digital
receive capability?

Thanks again for all the help,
Bob



Bob wrote in
. 14:

I'm searching for the perfect pocket radio.

* Cover AM/FM/SW
* Digital tuning
* Smaller than 4" x 3" x 1"
* Weigh less than 10oz
* Use AA batteries
* Std 3.5mm stereo headphone jack
* Offer SSB
* Excellent & rugged "build" quality
* Excellent performance on *all* bands
* Priced less than $100
* I'd also like weather and TV (VHF & UHF) coverage.



David August 18th 05 06:40 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:49:10 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:


In article ,
David wrote:

(BTW, I've never seen a TV band radio with UHF. I also have a little
hand-held Casio TV).


Radio Shack had one, but they fell afoul of the ECPA (Electronics
Communication Privacy Act). And/Or Radio Shack's cell phone
marketing.

AMPS (the old analog cell phone system) was a great way to determine
business ethics. Ask the salesman if the phone system was private
and watch him lie his ass off. Analog cell phones used former TV
channels and the same modulation as TV, so any old TV set could pick
some or all of them on channels 70-83. And a UHF band TV sound receiver
would, too.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

You can also listen to analog 800 phones 21.4 mHz below the actual
phone call on many scanners.


[email protected] August 18th 05 08:01 PM

Sometimes I hear some gals and guys dialing a message service on my
scanner radio.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 08:03 PM

I listen to what they are saying too.I used to listen to some real
juicey dirt on my scanner radio before they got them spred spectum
telephones.oooooo la la!
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 08:06 PM

Yaseu radios are good,so I have heard before.I dont own one though.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 08:07 PM

I love to listen in on juicey dirt.
cuhulin


Mark Zenier August 19th 05 06:27 PM

In article ,
David wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:49:10 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:


In article ,
David wrote:

(BTW, I've never seen a TV band radio with UHF. I also have a little
hand-held Casio TV).


Radio Shack had one, but they fell afoul of the ECPA (Electronics
Communication Privacy Act). And/Or Radio Shack's cell phone
marketing.

AMPS (the old analog cell phone system) was a great way to determine
business ethics. Ask the salesman if the phone system was private
and watch him lie his ass off. Analog cell phones used former TV
channels and the same modulation as TV, so any old TV set could pick
some or all of them on channels 70-83. And a UHF band TV sound receiver
would, too.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

You can also listen to analog 800 phones 21.4 mHz below the actual
phone call on many scanners.


There was also the trick of feeding a 45 MHz signal into a TV set to
add a pseudo-carrier into the IF amp, so that you could use the fine
tuning (and the inter-carrier sound system) to pick up most everything.

I did that a couple of times and found that your typical cell-phone call
makes the Voice of (North) Korea sound interesting in comparison.
Voyerism is boring.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)




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