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[email protected] August 24th 05 04:46 PM

It's all Greek to me.
cuhulin


John S. August 24th 05 05:00 PM


Roy Haines with Dewey Foley wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
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Roy Haines with Dewey Foley wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
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Is there much out there that can be converted to readable english with
an advanced decoder? My dated experience with the PK232MBX was that
there wasn't much beyond weather stuff and that was disappearing. I've
heard that most of the digital stuff is encrypted and unreadable.


Well, I guess POCSAG and FLEX for a few examples.


Isn't POCSAG used for pagers? Is there any interesting traffic that
would have something like text messages - diplo traffic and similar?



So tell me about what you are hearing (or reading) in the VHF/UHF
range. Anything that can be translated to readable english?


See above for 2 possibilities :)

Yeah, the good old days of decoding news, diplomatic stuff, russians,
ship-to-shore traffic, etc., in TDM, FDM (yes!) TOR and all the other
interesting modes are pretty much gone.


Darnity darn.

I need to hit the mailing lists to see if this part of my beloved hobby is
done for!



[email protected] August 24th 05 05:37 PM

Well now,sometimes if I happenstance to turn my Radio Shack hand held
(but I dont hold it,I only turn it on) 150 channel scanner radio that I
bought for seventy five dollars plus Mississippi RIPP OFF sales taxes at
the Ezey Pawn pawn shop across the mighty Pearl River,just a cat hair
East of Jackson) sometimes I hear on there some wimmins and dudes
leaving a message(s) for somebody that sounds sort of kinda like a pager
to me.y'all ought to just hear our old Southron Mississippi drwal,,,
y''all would fall ln love.Amarillo by morrrninnn,,,,,,, Amaillo is where
I will beeeeee,,,,,,,,,,,, www.us963.com Country's latest and
geatest.
cuhulin


Honus August 25th 05 02:11 AM


wrote in message
...
It's all Greek to me.


I'll bet it is.

http://www.talksexwithsue.com/analsex.html



Roy Haines with Dewey Foley August 25th 05 04:55 AM


"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...
Isn't POCSAG used for pagers? Is there any interesting traffic that
would have something like text messages - diplo traffic and similar?


Yes, for pagers. I understand its very surprising the things that get
transmitted
via POCSAG/FLEX.

To answer your second question, probably :)

An anecdote:
A friend worked at an Internet Service Provider, and had his scanner/decoder
setup running constantly. One fine summer day, a tractor dug up a major
fiber
cable that knocked out half of the Eastern US Seaboard. A regional pager
service
sent out pages to that backbone providers engineers with the details.
Needless
to say, when the ISP customers called in and said they couldnt reach
hotmail,
yahoo, and microsoft (at the time, remember this was -almost- 10 years ago),
he had the answer for his customers hours before it was prominently featured
on the news.

Also were transmitted via POCSAG were voice bridges for the technicians
to work together to route around the problems. Searching the interceptions
for
similar 'capcodes' (individual pager unit identifiers) would clue the
potential listener
for updates on the situation as they were made available to the engineers.

Another anecdote:
A friend, at the same ISP, witnessed a page about a certain famous CNN
reporter,
including personal cellphone information. ("Hey, call Mr. XXX at CNN, on his
cell
at xxx-xxx-xxxx about the on-air thingy we are doing tomorrow at 5pm.")

Dont forget, as we move along in complicating life with gadgets in an
attempt to make
things easier, these devices become all-in-one. Text Messaging into
stand-alone messaging
devices is treated much like shorthand email.

Interesting? Yes. Diplomatic stuff? Eventually, I am sure. But it certainly
sounds illegal
to intercept, doesnt it? I am sure usernames and passwords have been
transmitted via
these protocols.

Searching a database of capcodes could provide an interesting history of
usage.
Putting 2 and 2 together could cause a big problem for someone who isnt
quite savvy on
the weaknesses of this technology!







John S. August 25th 05 01:44 PM


Roy Haines with Dewey Foley wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...
Isn't POCSAG used for pagers? Is there any interesting traffic that
would have something like text messages - diplo traffic and similar?


Yes, for pagers. I understand its very surprising the things that get
transmitted
via POCSAG/FLEX.


I suppose, sort of like tuning into baby monitors, wireless and cell
phones.



To answer your second question, probably :)

An anecdote:
A friend worked at an Internet Service Provider, and had his scanner/decoder
setup running constantly. One fine summer day, a tractor dug up a major
fiber
cable that knocked out half of the Eastern US Seaboard. A regional pager
service
sent out pages to that backbone providers engineers with the details.
Needless
to say, when the ISP customers called in and said they couldnt reach
hotmail,
yahoo, and microsoft (at the time, remember this was -almost- 10 years ago),
he had the answer for his customers hours before it was prominently featured
on the news.

Also were transmitted via POCSAG were voice bridges for the technicians
to work together to route around the problems. Searching the interceptions
for
similar 'capcodes' (individual pager unit identifiers) would clue the
potential listener
for updates on the situation as they were made available to the engineers.

Another anecdote:
A friend, at the same ISP, witnessed a page about a certain famous CNN
reporter,
including personal cellphone information. ("Hey, call Mr. XXX at CNN, on his
cell
at xxx-xxx-xxxx about the on-air thingy we are doing tomorrow at 5pm.")

Dont forget, as we move along in complicating life with gadgets in an
attempt to make
things easier, these devices become all-in-one. Text Messaging into
stand-alone messaging
devices is treated much like shorthand email.

Interesting? Yes. Diplomatic stuff? Eventually, I am sure. But it certainly
sounds illegal
to intercept, doesnt it? I am sure usernames and passwords have been
transmitted via
these protocols.


Yeah, I don't know if it is technically illegal as long as listeners
don't divulge the content (that rule is still in place I think).


Searching a database of capcodes could provide an interesting history of
usage.
Putting 2 and 2 together could cause a big problem for someone who isnt
quite savvy on
the weaknesses of this technology!



[email protected] August 25th 05 03:18 PM

I think some kinds of certain "data" shouldn't be divulged.For
instance,that nitwit MORON tv reporter rivera drawing a map in the sand
over there in Iraq for all the World to see.Common Horse Sense tells
anybody that certain kinds of "data" shouldn't be divulged.
cuhulin



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