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OT War On Brains Kicks Into High Gear
"David" wrote in message ... The Republican War on Science by Chris Mooney America has long prided itself on its dynamic industrial and scientific innovation. We boasted of our investment in research to produce new technology, products and medical breakthroughs, because we were a country always moving forward. Born of a revolution that rejected the stultifying constraints of Monarchist governments, we were unleashed to invent a future without constraints. So historians, in a few years, may look back on the era of right wing Republican rule and wonder how we became saddled with a government that is intent on moving the nation backwards instead of forwards. It's as if you were a passenger in a car speeding down the expressway at 60 miles per hour and suddenly the driver threw the gear into reverse. The technological pride this country had is dwindling. Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. |
If you scan Chris C. Mooney's long list of Left-wing liberal "progressive" propaganda you will see his agenda: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...s&rank=relevan cerank&field-author-exact=Chris%20Mooney/104-7446743-7987952 "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." That oft-quoted statement from Carl Sagan captures the essence of the scientific approach to knowledge. Before an idea can achieve the revered status of "theory," it must survive round after round of skeptical criticism. The evidence supporting the existence of a partisan War on Science will never measure up to the Sagan criterion. What does measure up is the evidence showing Chris C. Mooney's "Progressive" agenda. Chris C. Mooney is Washington correspondent for Seed magazine and a senior correspondent for the American Prospect. The American Prospect, Inc. "We incubate, train, and mentor young 'progressive' journalists," the site also says, "through our prestigious writing fellows program." --- "Progressive" is a propaganda code word for Socialist. --- Online The American Prospect, Inc. operates not only a digital version of its magazine and special reports but also a "public policy resource" of links coordinating and integrating it with at least 140 other activist "progressive" groups and web sites. The American Prospect, Inc. Not-for-profit, tax-exempt organization that operates The American Prospect Magazine Biggest funders include foundations controlled by Bill Moyers and George Soros Put out at least one publication without informing readers its content was bought and paid for by a foundation to promote legislation Its web project Moving Ideas promotes other "progressive" groups funded by foundations controlled by Bill Moyers and George Soros The American Prospect apparently takes editorial dictation from its leftwing sugar daddies not only about what it publishes but also where it publishes. Read more he http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=7074 Mooney has contributed to a variety of other publications in recent years, including Wired, Slate, Salon, Mother Jones, Legal Affairs, Reason, The American Scholar, The Washington Monthly, The Utne Reader, Columbia Journalism Review, The Washington Post, The Washington City Paper, and The Boston Globe. www.discoverthenetwork.com |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:29:24 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: Mooney has contributed to a variety of other publications in recent years, including Wired, Slate, Salon, Mother Jones, Legal Affairs, Reason, The American Scholar, The Washington Monthly, The Utne Reader, Columbia Journalism Review, The Washington Post, The Washington City Paper, and The Boston Globe. If one wants the big picture one needs to be open to all points of view. |
FDR wrote:
The technological pride this country had is dwindling. Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. Sadly, you are correct. In the community I live in, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an Indian, here as doctors, engineers and programmers. Nothing against Indians at all -- it just brings into focus the failure of the American educational system... |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:22:18 GMT, Carter-K8VT
wrote: FDR wrote: The technological pride this country had is dwindling. Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. Sadly, you are correct. In the community I live in, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an Indian, here as doctors, engineers and programmers. Nothing against Indians at all -- it just brings into focus the failure of the American educational system... Empire in decline is never pretty... |
David wrote: The Republican War on Science by Chris Mooney America has long prided itself on its dynamic industrial and scientific innovation. We boasted of our investment in research to produce new technology, products and medical breakthroughs, because we were a country always moving forward. Born of a revolution that rejected the stultifying constraints of Monarchist governments, we were unleashed to invent a future without constraints. So historians, in a few years, may look back on the era of right wing Republican rule and wonder how we became saddled with a government that is intent on moving the nation backwards instead of forwards. It's as if you were a passenger in a car speeding down the expressway at 60 miles per hour and suddenly the driver threw the gear into reverse. In this fascinating dissection of the "The Republican War on Science," author Chris Mooney skillfully explores what is behind the GOP attempt to turn a country on the cusp of innovation backwards into the Middle Ages of skepticism about science and evolution. Mooney guides the reader through this unfathomable undertaking that is an organized Republican effort to undo our national heritage of innovation and scientific advancements. There are really two main forces at work in the Republican right, which has reached its pinnacle of power in the reign of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Tom DeLay. On the one hand, you have the extremist religious "base" that supports Bush no matter what his latest egregious failure or betrayal is. To them, science is an enemy because it, ipso facto, deals with discoveries, research and explanations of life and the world that conflict with literal interpretations of the Bible. Forget about the canard of "Intelligent Design," which is just another Frank Luntz euphemism -- in this case for creationism. The religious right fully endorses the war on science because science is born of human research, and human research inevitably comes into conflict with the fundamentalist interpretation of divine intent. The second major camp behind Bush's war on science is the corporate world, particularly the depletable natural resources companies who are championed by Dick Cheney. They believe that science gets in the way of their pillaging and plundering the environment for a quick profit. If science proves, as it has, that global warming is accelerating rapidly, then what good is it? It will only lead these companies -- headed by big Republican contributors -- to a short-term reduction in profits. Or so they believe. In Bush's world, as with the war in Iraq and economic forecasts, science is only of value when the books are cooked on research so as to support a specific Bush policy that either endears him to the fringe religious right or to the "loot and pollute" corporations. In a tragically ironic way, these two Bush groups of supporters synergistically support each other. Because if the earth's environment is truly being destroyed by unfettered industrial pillaging, it might only hasten the Armageddon so ardently anticipated by the holy rollers. Who cares what happens to our planet, if "good Christians" will soon meet in heaven? Bush is certainly a man with a lot of wars on his hands. But Mooney's book reminds us that the Iraq War shouldn't overshadow the severe damage that the Busheviks are doing to America's extraordinary heritage of scientific accomplishment. With a few more years, they will grind it into dust. This is an Administration that wants us to return to a period before the Age of Enlightenment, which some might call the "Dark Ages.'' And of course everything will just be peachy once a left-wing liberal government is elected. How do you find all this BS, Rickets? dxAce Michigan USA |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:13:20 -0400, dxAce
wrote: And of course everything will just be peachy once a left-wing liberal government is elected. The Eagle needs both wings. You are a Good German, willing to look the other way because Der Fuhrer promises to protect you from the Big Bbad Wolf. |
David wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:13:20 -0400, dxAce wrote: And of course everything will just be peachy once a left-wing liberal government is elected. The Eagle needs both wings. The 'Tard Boy needs his meds. You are a Good German, willing to look the other way because Der Fuhrer promises to protect you from the Big Bbad Wolf. You are a Good Left-Winger, willing to promulgate un-truths because Der DNC promises you many benefits from the trough. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:56:04 -0400, dxAce
wrote: You are a Good Left-Winger, willing to promulgate un-truths because Der DNC promises you many benefits from the trough. You're being lazily dismissive. I have nothing to do with the Left Wingers and/or (nor?) the DNC. I am a patriot concerned that my country faces a threat from within. You just make your snide little jokes. I am amazed at how completely the bubble you live in shields you from reality. Someday they'll be doing doctorate theses about it (if we survive). |
David wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:56:04 -0400, dxAce wrote: You are a Good Left-Winger, willing to promulgate un-truths because Der DNC promises you many benefits from the trough. You're being lazily dismissive. I have nothing to do with the Left Wingers and/or (nor?) the DNC. I am a patriot concerned that my country faces a threat from within. At the risk of repeating myself, in a way, let me just state that you wouldn't know patriotism if it crawled up your ass and decided to spend the winter. To wit, you are a mere mentally ill 'tard boy, and whatever you have to say should be readily dismissed by one and all. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:15:34 -0400, dxAce
wrote: At the risk of repeating myself, in a way, let me just state that you wouldn't know patriotism if it crawled up your ass and decided to spend the winter. To wit, you are a mere mentally ill 'tard boy, and whatever you have to say should be readily dismissed by one and all. Amazing. I must give props to your brainwashers. |
David wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:15:34 -0400, dxAce wrote: At the risk of repeating myself, in a way, let me just state that you wouldn't know patriotism if it crawled up your ass and decided to spend the winter. To wit, you are a mere mentally ill 'tard boy, and whatever you have to say should be readily dismissed by one and all. Amazing. I must give props to your brainwashers. Yours have done an admirable job, 'tard boy. You may resume drooling. dxAce Michigan USA |
"FDR" wrote The technological pride this country had is dwindling. LOL - please show me the extraordinary evidence of the preponderance of this state of mind - LOL! Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, You must be referring to the Socialist European Union, especially France, which has been experiencing the exodus of entrepreneurs to the U.S. in droves. and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. The weakened educational system can be traced to the Socialist/Progressive professors and teachers that infest the schools from mid-level to Universities. |
"David" wrote Empire in decline is never pretty... Thanks to you and your fellow Komrade Liberals. |
As super Intelligent as I am,there is no war on my brain.Thirty Seconds
Over Tokio (Tokyo) movie is on tv.For years,I have had an idea for a perpetual motion machine.I can scrounge up some parts from a local junkyard and cobble it together and see if it will work.As many times as I have sketched it out on paper,I can't see why it wouldn't work. cuhulin |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:12:55 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: "David" wrote Empire in decline is never pretty... Thanks to you and your fellow Komrade Liberals. I'm a flaming right-winger paranoid. |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:00:36 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: "David" wrote If one wants the big picture one needs to be open to all points of view. Indeed! Including the possibility that a "Superior Being" does exist and the Universe(s) are a reflection of "Its" Intelligent Design. Additionally, there is no extraordinary evidence that some type of "Superior Being" does or does not exist. Furthermore, there is no extraordinary evidence that ANY mortal human religion worships that "Superior Being". To exclude the possibility that some type of "Superior Being" exists is as illogical as the belief that the Communist Party is the master of the Universe and its Center is located in Tiananmen Square. (That is exactly what the Chinese Communist Party believes.) The motive behind Chris C. Mooney is clear - to propagandize the Republican Party as some kind of anti-science movement and attempt to lasso the cause into his "Progressive" (Socialist - atheist) sphere. There is nothing more powerful than a laissez faire economy. And any scientist would give his right arm to profit from his discoveries no matter what political entity may happen to be office or what religion is in vogue. An attempt by any government (or religion) to squelch scientific discovery would simply result in the exodus of brilliant scientific minds with catastrophic results for that country. History is littered with fine examples. To think that that is the goal of the Republican Party is preposterous. I can think of few counties that are more scientifically laissez faire than the U.S. Science needs moral and ethical checks equally as importantly as government. If some type of religion provides that socially acceptable moral and ethical reference than so be it. To exclude it would be disastrous. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Extraordinary evidence that Chris C. Mooney does not have. The existence of a Superior Being is irrelevant. Science is science. The Republican Party has been usurped by transnational corporatists who don't care what country their research comes from. They are finished with us. They have fresh growth curves to exploit. They were here before the USA and they will be here long after we are gone. http://atlasgeo.span.ch/fotw/flags/gb-eic.html |
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You are a flaming F....d up paranoid.
cuhulin |
"David"
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Extraordinary evidence that Chris C. Mooney does not have. The existence of a Superior Being is irrelevant. Science is science. You missed the point entirely. But why does that not surprise me? Science may simply be the study of "Inteligent Design". Science is JUST science afterall. The Republican Party has been usurped by transnational corporatists who don't care what country their research comes from. They are finished with us. They have fresh growth curves to exploit. They were here before the USA and they will be here long after we are gone. It's a great grand conspiracy akin to the invasion of the Japanese!! Been there done that - LOL Your too young. Wait until you develop wisdom that isn't inspired from the San Francisco "Progressive" peace crowd. |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:10:29 -0500, wrote:
You are a flaming F....d up paranoid. cuhulin Thanks. |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:36:19 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: It's a great grand conspiracy akin to the invasion of the Japanese!! Been there done that - LOL Your too young. Wait until you develop wisdom that isn't inspired from the San Francisco "Progressive" peace crowd. ''Though the Company was becoming increasingly bold and ambitious in putting down resisting states, it was getting clearer day by day that the Company was incapable of governing the vast expanse of the captured territories. The Bengal famine, in which one-sixth of the local population died, set the alarm bells ringing back home, and prompted Adam Smith's quotation at the beginning of this article. Military and administrative costs mounted beyond control in British administered regions in Bengal due to the ensuing drop in labour productivity. At the same time, there was commercial stagnation and trade depression throughout Europe following the lull in the post- (The transformation from an agricultural to an industrial nation) Industrial Revolution period. Britain became entangled in the (Click link for more info and facts about rebellion in America) rebellion in America (one of the major importers of Indian tea), and France was on the brink of a (The overthrow of a government by those who are governed) revolution. The desperate directors of the company attempted to avert bankruptcy by appealing to Parliament for financial help. This led to the passing of the (Click link for more info and facts about Tea Act) Tea Act in 1773. This Act gave the Company greater autonomy in running its trade in America. Its monopolistic activities triggered the (Demonstration (1773) by citizens of Boston who (disguised as Indians) raided three British ships in Boston harbor and dumped hundreds of chests of tea into the harbor; organized as a protest against taxes on tea) Boston Tea Party in the (Click link for more info and facts about Province of Massachusetts Bay) Province of Massachusetts Bay, one of the major events leading up to the (Click link for more info and facts about American War for Independence) American War for Independence.'' http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...ia_company.htm |
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote The technological pride this country had is dwindling. LOL - please show me the extraordinary evidence of the preponderance of this state of mind - LOL! Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, You must be referring to the Socialist European Union, especially France, which has been experiencing the exodus of entrepreneurs to the U.S. in droves. Funny, but that's not what's happening in the electrical engineering area. and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. The weakened educational system can be traced to the Socialist/Progressive professors and teachers that infest the schools from mid-level to Universities. You must have conservative rabies. |
You are the one who has Rabies.Yeah and you da.n sure look like it too.
www.devilfinder.com Ionatron Stennis Space Center Mississippi. cuhulin |
wrote in message ... You are the one who has Rabies.Yeah and you da.n sure look like it too. www.devilfinder.com Ionatron Stennis Space Center Mississippi. cuhulin Oh yeah? Well you have cooties. |
FDR wrote:
wrote in message ... You are the one who has Rabies.Yeah and you da.n sure look like it too. www.devilfinder.com Ionatron Stennis Space Center Mississippi. cuhulin Oh yeah? Well you have cooties. That's because he needs a new flea collar. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
I dont have cooties.Neither does my dog.I apply a tube of Frontline (do
you have any idea of how much that stuff cost? it isn't cheap,you look it up) to the base of the top of her neck once a month.I give her a Heartguard tablet once a month and I buy Chicken Soup For The Dog Lovers Soul dog food for my dog, www.chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com Dog is in better health than I am. cuhulin |
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David wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:44:41 -0500, wrote: As super Intelligent as I am,there is no war on my brain.Thirty Seconds Over Tokio (Tokyo) movie is on tv.For years,I have had an idea for a perpetual motion machine.I can scrounge up some parts from a local junkyard and cobble it together and see if it will work.As many times as I have sketched it out on paper,I can't see why it wouldn't work. cuhulin Friction No need to bring the dog into this.. mike |
m II wrote: wrote: Dog is in better health than I am. That's strange, considering you both get EXACTLY the *same* daily exercise. mike It's almost too ugly for the imagination but in his one post he said his dog was lying on his fat belly. Maybe he taught her cowgirl? JB |
"David" wrote It's a great grand conspiracy akin to the invasion of the Japanese!! Been there done that - LOL Your too young. Wait until you develop wisdom that isn't inspired from the San Francisco "Progressive" peace crowd. turds snipped Irrelevant history lil boy. You need to fast forward that VCR. Grasping for straws to support your ideo-illogical argument reveals tremendous ignorance. |
"FDR" wrote in message ... The weakened educational system can be traced to the Socialist/Progressive professors and teachers that infest the schools from mid-level to Universities. You must have conservative rabies. No, I am anti-Progressive/Leftist/Socialist. All of which simply means anti-Communist! If you can't understand what the connections are then U.S. voters have a serious problem. Jackson Lee has a 100 percent pro-education voting record, according to the teachers' union -- the National Education Association (NEA). She earned this honor in part by voting in 1998 to deny vouchers to the 70 percent of African-American parents in Washington, D.C. who want to liberate their children from inferior, unionized public schools. http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/in....asp?indid=981 |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:29:24 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: The American Prospect, Inc. "We incubate, train, and mentor young 'progressive' journalists," the site also says, "through our prestigious writing fellows program." --- "Progressive" is a propaganda code word for Socialist. --- And we KNOW that the right-wing NEVER EVER uses any propagnda words, LOL You guys are SUCH a hoot! |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:12:55 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: "David" wrote Empire in decline is never pretty... Thanks to you and your fellow Komrade Liberals. Sigh... oh yes, they have been leading us for the past 6 years, we forgot! Those "darn Komrades" who control our NeoCongress and White House! |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:13:20 -0400, dxAce
wrote: And of course everything will just be peachy once a left-wing liberal government is elected. So, do you think they can make things worse? |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:48:02 GMT, David wrote:
And of course everything will just be peachy once a left-wing liberal government is elected. The Eagle needs both wings. Interesting - first time I have read that idea! |
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:10:57 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote: You must be referring to the Socialist European Union, especially France, which has been experiencing the exodus of entrepreneurs to the U.S. in droves. Please - France is doing fine. American Francophobia is addling your brian... |
"FDR" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ... The Republican War on Science by Chris Mooney America has long prided itself on its dynamic industrial and scientific innovation. We boasted of our investment in research to produce new technology, products and medical breakthroughs, because we were a country always moving forward. Born of a revolution that rejected the stultifying constraints of Monarchist governments, we were unleashed to invent a future without constraints. So historians, in a few years, may look back on the era of right wing Republican rule and wonder how we became saddled with a government that is intent on moving the nation backwards instead of forwards. It's as if you were a passenger in a car speeding down the expressway at 60 miles per hour and suddenly the driver threw the gear into reverse. The technological pride this country had is dwindling. Not only from this administration, but from companies moving it out to foreign countries, and a weakened higher education system because we value popstars, celebrities and athletes much more than engineers and scientists. We never have valued engineers and scientists much. Why is that such a surprise?? By the time Einstein made it to the US, he was more celebrity than scientist at that point. Hawking is probably more well known for being "the guy in the wheelchair who was on Star Trek playing poker" than his theories. Carl Sagan was a scientist who was more well known for his showmanship and his apocryphal "Billions and billons" quote than as a scientist. I once heard from a coworker who went to Cornell that there used to be a t-shirt making the rounds at Cornell that had the top lies told at Cornell. One of them was (not an exact quote, but close), "I take a class taught by Carl Sagan." One of the major sources of funding for research was the DoD and DoE during the Cold War. When that ended, a lot of money available for funding dried up and went toward other things. Priorities changed, too: look at the decision to scrap the Superconducting Supercollider (SSC), or the constant shifting of priorities away from a Mars mission. The SSC was deemed too costly, and the Mars mission meets heated debate over what our national priorities should be. The Cold Fusion debacle 15 years ago also demonstrated the fractured nature across scientific disciplines: chemists and physicists were arguing rather loudly about the results of Pons' and Fleishmann's experiments not in a reasoned manner, but more in the manner of "we found it first, so nyaah nyaah nyaah" reserved for children. There is also a distinct disconnect between what the public and the people with the purse strings feel is important, and what the academic scientific community feels is important. Try and suggest that the space program should be significantly scaled back so that hunger in Africa could be given priority, and you'll get an earful from the scientific community on that. --Mike L. |
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