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David September 12th 05 10:02 PM

OT USA To Use Nuclear Weapons In Preemptive Strikes
 
We really are doomed now:

''Preemptive Nuclear Strikes - Now Only A Matter of Time

By D.L. McCracken
Sep 12, 2005, 16:37
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Have you been paying close attention to the horror that is New Orleans
after Hurricane Katrina? Have you found yourself not really following
other news items of significant importance because first, Katrina has
pushed everything else to the back burner by mainstream media and
second, what is happening in New Orleans is all the bad news you can
handle at the moment?

There is at least one piece of information released to the media
recently that deserves much more attention than it's receiving. Have
you by chance skimmed over headlines or caught the back end of a news
item with contain phrases such as, "revised doctrine for the use of
nuclear weapons"? How about "preemption strategies"?

It's time to start paying close attention because something else is
happening in the United States that is pretty damn scary.

It's called The Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations and the Pentagon
has drafted certain revisions to the original 1995 document which
simply put, describes the role of U.S. nuclear deterrence, force
posturing and deployment considerations. In a nutshell, the doctrine
specifies definite rules for the use by the U.S. of nuclear weapons.
The newly revised doctrine provides more options and reasons for using
nuclear devices as well as other weapons of mass destruction against
nations and/or terrorist groups and furthermore, includes an option
for preemptive use of said weapons.

In other words, the revised doctrine includes the option for the
United States to fire off the first nuclear missile - a preemptive
strike, an idea that was initially announced by U.S. President George
W. Bush in 2002.

Along with the newly revised preemption clause, the doctrine also
incorporates:

- a reduction in the level of hostilities where a nuclear weapon could
be utilized;

- a support for the utilization of nuclear weapons against all forms
of weapons of mass destruction including chemical and biological;

- a support for deploying nuclear weapons against terrorists and
terror factions;

- support for protection of nuclear forces over protecting people.

The revised doctrine contains over 20 additional pages devoted to
various nuclear options including the use of nulcear devices in
theatre operations or in an active combat zone. The new chapter
devoted to theater nuclear operations was added as a direct result of
the emergence of dangerous 'rogue states' and organized terrorist
factions especially if those entities had been successful in obtaining
weapons of mass destruction.

Critics of the revised doctrine warn that the added options for
deployment of a nuclear device "threaten to make nuclear weapons just
another tool in the toolbox". The revised document also includes at
least four scenarios where commanders in a combat theatre situation
request Presidential approval for use of nuclear weapons first.

According to The Nuclear Information Project, "in nuclear preemption,
the objective no longer is deterrence through threatened retaliation
but battlefield destruction of targets with nuclear weapons first in
anticipation that deterrence will fail."

Th revised docrine also takes into consideration the inevitable
collateral damage caused by a nuclear device, even weapons with a
"lower yield". One paragraph from the revised doctrine
states,"Specific techniques for reducing nuclear collateral damage may
include lower yield weapons, improving accuracy, employing multiple
smaller weapons, adjusting the height of burst, and offsetting the
desired ground zero."

So there you have it. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate killing
machines. Deterrence has worked for decades but suddenly the Bush
administration wants to scrap deterrence and incorporate preemptive
strike capability when that administration or a commander in a ground
combat situation feels that it would be appropriate.

We all are deeply aware of the destruction that one small nuclear bomb
can create, not only in the immediate aftermath of a strike but in the
weeks, months, years and decades to come. At a time when we would hope
that our world leaders would be doing their utmost to decrease the
nuclear threat, the world's most powerful nation is writing doctrines
that will allow them to strike first - anywhere on this planet.

It's now only a matter of time.''

http://www.halifaxlive.com/artman/pu...905_6619.shtml







dxAce September 12th 05 10:05 PM



David wrote:

We really are doomed now:


But 'tard boy, you said we were doomed before. Just how doomed can we get?

Is their a scale of doom? Like 1 to 10?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 12th 05 10:12 PM


- Relax..

They'll just screw it up again..
Look at the great job they did in Iraq..

WMD's in Costa Rica ( *BOOM* )


[email protected] September 12th 05 10:24 PM




- Interesting thought.. What if someone nukked an active volcano . . .
? ?

With Curious George in The White house.. we may find out..

" Do You Know The Way To San Jose . . '
( la la lala la la la la la . . )


[email protected] September 12th 05 10:47 PM

Suits me.I say NUKE all of the ragheads.
cuhulin


David September 12th 05 11:14 PM

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:47:11 -0500, wrote:

Suits me.I say NUKE all of the ragheads.
cuhulin

The Pakistani Ragheads or the Indian Ragheads (both have nuclear
missiles and both have ties to Russia and China. Will we then have to
nuke them, too?


m II September 13th 05 05:05 AM

David wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 18:45:12 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DaviD,
.
This is "Why" the USA once again needs the Neutron Bomb to Save the
Planet from all that Bad 'Long Term' Radiation from standard Nuclear
Weapons.
.
With the Neutron Bomb the USA will only use a Big Blast of Short Term
Radiation.
.
The Neutron Bomb will allow the USA to de-populate and re-populate most
of the major cities of the World.
.
Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would
Destroy the Planet.
.
so that the meek can inherit the earth - amen ~ RHF
. . . . .

Spoken like a true Christian!



I never realized just how insane he really is.



mike




BDK September 13th 05 06:12 AM

In article ,
says...
We really are doomed now:

''Preemptive Nuclear Strikes - Now Only A Matter of Time

By D.L. McCracken
Sep 12, 2005, 16:37
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Snipped paranoid article..

Jeez David, it must be hell to be as scared of everything as you are...

BDK

RHF September 13th 05 08:44 AM

M II - Don't Worry - I Am Not Mad About You ~ RHF
. . . . .


RHF September 13th 05 08:51 AM

DaviD - Yes as a Christian - I believe that if People have to Die
they should Die Humanly; and in an Environmentally Safe way; that
will do the least harm to the Planet. ~ RHF
. . . . .


RHF September 13th 05 09:11 AM

M II - Some thing to consider . . .
about being the USA's Nation Next Door.

dxAce September 13th 05 11:50 AM



David wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:09:13 -0400, "Jack" wrote:


ROFLMAO!

I hope like hell they do nuke em tiull they glow in the dark!
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

We really are doomed now:

But 'tard boy, you said we were doomed before. Just how doomed can we get?

Is their a scale of doom? Like 1 to 10?

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Mock as you will. Are we trending toward or away from very serious
trouble?


Guess you should ask yourself that question, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 13th 05 02:32 PM

On 13 Sep 2005 01:11:54 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

M II - Some thing to consider . . .
about being the USA's Nation Next Door.
.
The old scenario goes that in a Nuclear War between the USSR
and the USA. If no Canadian Cities were Targeted the 85% of
the Canadian Population that lives within 100 Miles of the
US Border would also be Victims of the Bombs and Resulting
Nuclear Fall-Out.
.
Actually some War Game Scenarios showed that as a percentage
of Population Canada would loose more people then the USA.
.
As China (PRC) becomes a major Nuclear Power; then Canada
once again becomes the Nation Next Door who will suffer
the most form a Nuclear Attack on the USA.
.
m ii have a glowing night ~ RHF
. . . . .

I there is even the slightest nuclear exchange the world will be
plunged into chaos. No one will escape.


bpnjensen September 13th 05 03:19 PM

Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would
Destroy the Planet.

[email protected] September 13th 05 04:12 PM

Canadians don't like it that America is building a nuclear shield
either,do they do or do they not?
cuhulin


David September 13th 05 05:58 PM

On 13 Sep 2005 07:19:04 -0700, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would

Destroy the Planet.
.
so that the meek can inherit the earth - amen ~ RHF

Ah, RHF, you are a master of irony ;-)

Bruce Jensen

The ''meek' refers to insects and lizards.


dxAce September 13th 05 06:00 PM



David wrote:

On 13 Sep 2005 07:19:04 -0700, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would

Destroy the Planet.
.
so that the meek can inherit the earth - amen ~ RHF

Ah, RHF, you are a master of irony ;-)

Bruce Jensen

The ''meek' refers to insects and lizards.


The "tard" refers to David Rickets and a host of others.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Daniel J. Morlan September 13th 05 06:45 PM

Just an aside... It is believed by some in high places that China will sweet
talk Mexico into giving them military access with intent to invade the
U.S.A. "should current trends continue..."

China is making plans for expansion. In their view, it's a matter of life
or death... Simple survival. Overpopulation, etc... The trigger could be
Taiwan.

Not anytime soon, but Hitler had his plans before 1930.

Who knows what will happen for sure, but this isn't the most outrageous
thing I've ever heard of. U.S. Relations with Mexico can certainly get
worse as the immigration issue eventually needs to be dealt with.

DJM
"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:47:11 -0500, wrote:

Suits me.I say NUKE all of the ragheads.
cuhulin

The Pakistani Ragheads or the Indian Ragheads (both have nuclear
missiles and both have ties to Russia and China. Will we then have to
nuke them, too?




Mark Zenier September 13th 05 06:58 PM

In article .com,
RHF wrote:
DaviD,
.
This is "Why" the USA once again needs the Neutron Bomb to Save the
Planet from all that Bad 'Long Term' Radiation from standard Nuclear
Weapons.
.
With the Neutron Bomb the USA will only use a Big Blast of Short Term
Radiation.
.
The Neutron Bomb will allow the USA to de-populate and re-populate most
of the major cities of the World.
.
Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would
Destroy the Planet.
.
so that the meek can inherit the earth - amen ~ RHF


enter pedant mode

Neutron bombs can only be small yield devices.

A "normal" thermonuclear bomb works in three phases. First a
(Plutonium/Uranium) fission device is exploded. Second the radiation
from this explosion is used to ignite a fusion reaction in a structure of
light elements (Hydrogen/Lithium). This produces a flood of high energy
neutrons. Third, these high energy neutrons cause fission in the bomb
casing and other structures made of "Depleted" Uranium 238. U238 doesn't
produce the chain reaction possible with U235, Plutonium 239, (or U233).
But when hit with a high energy neutron, the nucleus will fission.

A neutron bomb is a small thermonuclear device that doesn't go through
the third stage of operation, (as they use other materials for the
radiation reflector). Their intended use was against tank formations
in an armored invasion of Europe by the Soviet Union, and their effective
range was about a kilometer.

The various outputs of nuclear bomb drop off at different distances.
And the size of the explosive determines the various effects. Neutron
radiation is a short range effect. If you make the bomb too big, the
blast effects will outweigh any prompt (neutron/x-ray/gamma) radiations.
This is largely because the blast energy comes from the prompt radiation
being absorbed by the material nearby the bomb. Build a bigger neutron
bomb, and you've built a bigger blast bomb.

end pedant mode

So if you try to build a neutron bomb big enough to kill only the people
in a city, there won't be a city left.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)




David September 13th 05 07:00 PM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:00:03 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On 13 Sep 2005 07:19:04 -0700, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

Yes the USA can Help Save the World from the Bad People who would
Destroy the Planet.
.
so that the meek can inherit the earth - amen ~ RHF

Ah, RHF, you are a master of irony ;-)

Bruce Jensen

The ''meek' refers to insects and lizards.


The "tard" refers to David Rickets and a host of others.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I am honored to be called a 'tard by the likes of your'n.


dxAce September 13th 05 10:20 PM



Carter-K8VT wrote:

dxAce wrote:

I am honored to be called a 'tard by the likes of your'n.



Speaking of urine, have they changed your diaper today, 'tard boy?


Speaking of insults, you've been pretty stingy in handing them out
lately. When will we see another "trifecta"... (or is the 8 Ball just
needing a little rest?) ;-)



[email protected] September 14th 05 12:52 AM

Carter-K8VT wrote
dxAce wrote:
I am honored to be called a 'tard by the likes of your'n.

Speaking of urine, have they changed your diaper today, 'tard boy?


Speaking of insults, you've been pretty stingy in handing them out
lately. When will we see another "trifecta"... (or is the 8 Ball just
needing a little rest?) ;-) :


Shame on you! There is no sport in it when you bait him like this.
You don't get to count coup for this one.

However, congratulations on the one he quoted. You actually elicited a
joke from him, albeit not a very good joke, but at least it breaks the
monotony of the same old insults.


John Barnard September 14th 05 02:48 AM



RHF wrote:

M II - Some thing to consider . . .
about being the USA's Nation Next Door.
.
The old scenario goes that in a Nuclear War between the USSR
and the USA. If no Canadian Cities were Targeted the 85% of
the Canadian Population that lives within 100 Miles of the
US Border would also be Victims of the Bombs and Resulting
Nuclear Fall-Out.
.
Actually some War Game Scenarios showed that as a percentage
of Population Canada would loose more people then the USA.
.
As China (PRC) becomes a major Nuclear Power; then Canada
once again becomes the Nation Next Door who will suffer
the most form a Nuclear Attack on the USA.
.
m ii have a glowing night ~ RHF
. . . . .


We'll just have to hope that the winds are blowing south!

Enjoy making an ash of yourself ;-)

JB



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