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David September 14th 05 02:58 AM

OT Toxins At Ground Below Zero Coverup
 
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


MnMikew September 14th 05 06:55 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


HAHA. Right from Air America to Buzzflash. Once again the loony left trying
to make something out of nothing. Floodwaters in NO polluted? No, really?
Duh!



David September 14th 05 07:15 PM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:55:40 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:



"David" wrote in message
.. .
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


HAHA. Right from Air America to Buzzflash. Once again the loony left trying
to make something out of nothing. Floodwaters in NO polluted? No, really?
Duh!


It appears to have slipped under the radar at Weird Nut Daily...


David September 14th 05 11:02 PM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:15:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


On Tue 13 Sep 2005 09:58:46p, David wrote in message
:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


Hmmm... Googling +"Katrina" +"toxin" tends to indicate that practically
*everyone* is aware of, and has reported, the toxic soup in NOLA, to include
(but not limited to) the big-4 MSM outlets, blogs, nuts, amateurs, hobbyists,
etc.

-=jd=-

The EPA mystery man says the toxins pose a more severe hazard, like
the Pile after 9-11, where the Agency also lied about the relative
safety.


[email protected] September 14th 05 11:02 PM

How many after hurricanes (and otherwise non after hurricanes
situations) toxic grounds areas have been cleaned up and then put back
into good use.I know of at least one,Mississippi Gulf Coast after
hurricane Camille of 1969.And I don't know for sure but I don't think
Halliburton and Bechtel and Kellog,Brown & Root were doing the
rebuilding or most of the rebuilding either.
cuhulin


dxAce September 15th 05 12:24 AM



-=jd=- wrote:

On Wed 14 Sep 2005 06:02:40p, David wrote in message
:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:15:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


On Tue 13 Sep 2005 09:58:46p, David wrote in message
m:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


Hmmm... Googling +"Katrina" +"toxin" tends to indicate that practically
*everyone* is aware of, and has reported, the toxic soup in NOLA, to
include (but not limited to) the big-4 MSM outlets, blogs, nuts,
amateurs, hobbyists, etc.

-=jd=-


The EPA mystery man says the toxins pose a more severe hazard, like
the Pile after 9-11, where the Agency also lied about the relative
safety.


He's one guy with an opinion that's akin to arguing which is worse: being
shot in the head once or three times. His opinion really doesn't matter, as
I don't think anyone's treating it lightly, regardless of the *severity*
of the toxicity. It seems everyone treating it as if it was the worst.

I find it difficult to understand why you're burning cycles trying to read
significance into that, when there is something far more worthy of your
angst:

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12637172.htm
Chertoff delayed federal response, memo shows

"...Chertoff's Aug. 30 memo for the first time declared Katrina an
"Incident of National Significance," a key designation that triggers swift
federal coordination. The following afternoon, Bush met with his Cabinet,
then appeared before TV cameras in the White House Rose Garden to announce
the government's planned action..."

Apparently, there has been an increase in federal authority, under certain
circumstances, with the current NRP.

You may now commence running in circles & screaming that the sky is
falling.


Will he say that we're really, really, really doomed now?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 15th 05 12:39 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:14:48 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

He's one guy with an opinion that's akin to arguing which is worse: being
shot in the head once or three times. His opinion really doesn't matter, as
I don't think anyone's treating it lightly, regardless of the *severity*
of the toxicity. It seems everyone treating it as if it was the worst.

Opinion? Where do you see opinion? This is eyewitness testimony.

''Hugh Kauffman, a Senior Policy Analyst at the Environmental
Protection Agency who specializes in emergency response, told Morning
Sedition hosts Marc Maron and Mark Riley that a government cover-up is
taking place right now, as we speak, to hide information about the
dangerous toxins in the flood waters of the Gulf Coast region.
Kauffman, a 35-year EPA veteran who has served in Republican and
Democratic administrations, says that the Bush administration is
preventing the EPA from releasing information that oil and chemical
companies are mandated by law to provide. Kauffman says the Bush
administration’s cover-up is endangering residents and relief workers
throughout the Gulf Coast region, who are being exposed to dangerous
levels of toxins, some of which have been proven to cause cancer and
birth defects. Kauffman, who was the chief investigator for the 9/11
clean up, also said that the Bush administration engaged in the same
practice after 9/11—covering up the truth about the dangers in the air
and water and lying to the public in the weeks after the disaster.
Kauffman said that over 75% of the heroes who responded to 9/11 have
gotten sick and in some cases have died because of exposure to toxins
at Ground Zero, and that he fears a similar fate will befall relief
workers and residents in the Gulf Coast now.''




dxAce September 15th 05 12:43 AM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:14:48 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

He's one guy with an opinion that's akin to arguing which is worse: being
shot in the head once or three times. His opinion really doesn't matter, as
I don't think anyone's treating it lightly, regardless of the *severity*
of the toxicity. It seems everyone treating it as if it was the worst.

Opinion? Where do you see opinion? This is eyewitness testimony.

''Hugh Kauffman, a Senior Policy Analyst at the Environmental
Protection Agency who specializes in emergency response, told Morning
Sedition hosts Marc Maron and Mark Riley that a government cover-up is
taking place right now, as we speak, to hide information about the
dangerous toxins in the flood waters of the Gulf Coast region.
Kauffman, a 35-year EPA veteran who has served in Republican and
Democratic administrations, says that the Bush administration is
preventing the EPA from releasing information that oil and chemical
companies are mandated by law to provide. Kauffman says the Bush
administration’s cover-up is endangering residents and relief workers
throughout the Gulf Coast region, who are being exposed to dangerous
levels of toxins, some of which have been proven to cause cancer and
birth defects. Kauffman, who was the chief investigator for the 9/11
clean up, also said that the Bush administration engaged in the same
practice after 9/11—covering up the truth about the dangers in the air
and water and lying to the public in the weeks after the disaster.
Kauffman said that over 75% of the heroes who responded to 9/11 have
gotten sick and in some cases have died because of exposure to toxins
at Ground Zero, and that he fears a similar fate will befall relief
workers and residents in the Gulf Coast now.''


How many times a day do you experience fecal incontinence?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 15th 05 12:45 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:24:40 -0400, dxAce
wrote:




Will he say that we're really, really, really doomed now?

You figure it out. You're a pretty fart smeller. This example pretty
much sums things up.

''I prosecute polluters on behalf of the Natural Resources Defense
Council, Riverkeeper and Waterkeeper Alliance. As George W. Bush began
his presidency, I was involved in litigation against the factory-pork
industry, which is a large source of air and water pollution in
America. Corporate pork factories cannot produce more efficiently than
traditional family farmers without violating several federal
environmental statutes. Industrial farms illegally dump millions of
tons of untreated fecal and toxic waste onto land and into the air and
water. Factory farms have contaminated hundreds of miles of waterways,
put tens of thousands of family farmers and fishermen out of work,
killed billions of fish, sickened consumers and subjected millions of
farm animals to unspeakable cruelty''
-RFK Jr.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1120-01.htm




David September 15th 05 12:57 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:43:50 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


How many times a day do you experience fecal incontinence?

I have my **** together.



dxAce September 15th 05 01:02 AM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:43:50 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

How many times a day do you experience fecal incontinence?

I have my **** together.


Right there in the Depends, eh?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 15th 05 01:27 AM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:24:40 -0400, dxAce
wrote:




Will he say that we're really, really, really doomed now?

You figure it out. You're a pretty fart smeller. This example pretty
much sums things up.

''I prosecute polluters on behalf of the Natural Resources Defense
Council, Riverkeeper and Waterkeeper Alliance. As George W. Bush began
his presidency, I was involved in litigation against the factory-pork
industry, which is a large source of air and water pollution in
America. Corporate pork factories cannot produce more efficiently than
traditional family farmers without violating several federal
environmental statutes. Industrial farms illegally dump millions of
tons of untreated fecal and toxic waste onto land and into the air and
water. Factory farms have contaminated hundreds of miles of waterways,
put tens of thousands of family farmers and fishermen out of work,
killed billions of fish, sickened consumers and subjected millions of
farm animals to unspeakable cruelty''
-RFK Jr.


This RFK guy, isn't he related to that Senator from Massachusetts who should
have been jailed long ago for murder or manslaughter?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 15th 05 01:31 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:52:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


So, how bout' that Chertoff? Do you agree that by simply declaring a
situation as an "Incident of National Significance," the feds should be
allowed increased authority that could countermand the authority of a
Governor? How about if the Governer resists it?

As I understand it, the Governor retains control of civilian law
enforcement and authority over any state's NG which have been sent to
her for that purpose.

No sane governor would say no to federal disaster relief.

Chertoff is a bigger idiot than Bush or Brown. Apparently the only
people in the Executive Branch following events were Bush's staff and
they were afraid to tell him how bad it was.


[email protected] September 15th 05 01:39 AM

If Jackson ever gets destroyed by a whole slew of big a.. tornados,,,
S...w Halliburton and Kellog,Brown & Root and Bechtel! We can rebuild
this town ourselves.About a mile West of me on Highway 80 is an old ex
Lowes store that went out of business about 16 years ago.It is nowdays a
sort of a storage place and they have some vans sitting out there for
rent too.I remember seeing a storm/tornado shelter for sale that is
sitting in the fenced in area.I might run by there one day this week and
ask about that shelter.
cuhulin


David September 15th 05 01:48 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:27:00 -0400, dxAce
wrote:




This RFK guy, isn't he related to that Senator from Massachusetts who should
have been jailed long ago for murder or manslaughter?

dxAce


No. This guy's Schwarzenegger's cousin.


dxAce September 15th 05 01:51 AM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:52:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

So, how bout' that Chertoff? Do you agree that by simply declaring a
situation as an "Incident of National Significance," the feds should be
allowed increased authority that could countermand the authority of a
Governor? How about if the Governer resists it?

As I understand it, the Governor retains control of civilian law
enforcement and authority over any state's NG which have been sent to
her for that purpose.

No sane governor would say no to federal disaster relief.

Chertoff is a bigger idiot than Bush or Brown. Apparently the only
people in the Executive Branch following events were Bush's staff and
they were afraid to tell him how bad it was.


You're afraid all the time aren't you, 'tard boy? Tell me, are you open and
honest with your therapist? Do you discuss your unfounded fears with him/her?
Have any medications lessened the effects of your paranoia?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 15th 05 01:57 AM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:27:00 -0400, dxAce
wrote:




This RFK guy, isn't he related to that Senator from Massachusetts who should
have been jailed long ago for murder or manslaughter?

dxAce


No. This guy's Schwarzenegger's cousin.


Oh, OK. I thought he was part of that Kennedy crime ring out of Massachusetts.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 15th 05 02:15 AM

Steve Uhrig Court Documents September 14,2005 www.cryptome.org
homeland INsecurity.We Have Met The Enemy And He Is Us.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 15th 05 10:29 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:55:40 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


HAHA. Right from Air America to Buzzflash. Once again the loony left trying
to make something out of nothing. Floodwaters in NO polluted? No, really?
Duh!


The Bush-Condi ad in the lower left column is worth more than
a passing glance.

RHF September 15th 05 11:22 AM

DaviD - What are 'you' and your Friends at Earth First
suggesting that "WE" Do with the City of New Orleans ?

RHF September 15th 05 11:37 AM

DaviD Declares - " No sane governor would say
no to federal disaster relief. "

David September 15th 05 03:08 PM

On 15 Sep 2005 07:02:50 -0700, "John S." wrote:


David wrote:
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


Not exactly hidden or being covered up. Every newspaper, newscast and
radio broadcast I've had contact with has had something on the noxious
soup of stuff that is in the streets, houses and bodies of water of New
Orleans. It is one of many many problems to be addressed as the
recover effort moves along. Directly related to the problem of what to
do about pollution is the question of where New Orleand will get a
supply of potable water that will allow this Crescent City rebirth the
politicians are now talking about.

It's a matter of downplaying how dangerous it is.

The EPA said the WTC was safe when it was not. People from Lower
Manhattan are getting sick. Rescue workers from the Pile are getting
sick.


[email protected] September 15th 05 04:29 PM

Potable water is coming back more and more almost every day in the New
Orleans area.So says,the Big 870 WWL New Orleans radio talk show.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 15th 05 04:31 PM

To H..L with fed govt.We gonna rebuild New Orleans anyway!
cuhulin


[email protected] September 15th 05 05:37 PM

The water came up and came up and came up and held for a longggg time
and then when it receded,, that is when the surge began.Mississippi Gulf
Coast.JT and Dave. www.supertalkms.com
cuhulin


MnMikew September 15th 05 07:02 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:14:48 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

He's one guy with an opinion that's akin to arguing which is worse: being
shot in the head once or three times. His opinion really doesn't matter,

as
I don't think anyone's treating it lightly, regardless of the *severity*
of the toxicity. It seems everyone treating it as if it was the worst.

Opinion? Where do you see opinion? This is eyewitness testimony.

''Hugh Kauffman, a Senior Policy Analyst at the Environmental
Protection Agency who specializes in emergency response, told Morning
Sedition hosts Marc Maron and Mark Riley that a government cover-up is
taking place right now, as we speak, to hide information about the
dangerous toxins in the flood waters of the Gulf Coast region.
Kauffman, a 35-year EPA veteran who has served in Republican and
Democratic administrations, says that the Bush administration is
preventing the EPA from releasing information that oil and chemical
companies are mandated by law to provide. Kauffman says the Bush
administration's cover-up is endangering residents and relief workers
throughout the Gulf Coast region, who are being exposed to dangerous
levels of toxins, some of which have been proven to cause cancer and
birth defects. Kauffman, who was the chief investigator for the 9/11
clean up, also said that the Bush administration engaged in the same
practice after 9/11-covering up the truth about the dangers in the air
and water and lying to the public in the weeks after the disaster.
Kauffman said that over 75% of the heroes who responded to 9/11 have
gotten sick and in some cases have died because of exposure to toxins
at Ground Zero, and that he fears a similar fate will befall relief
workers and residents in the Gulf Coast now.''

Testimony? I dont see a single fact in this anywhere.



[email protected] September 15th 05 07:15 PM

You and Honus and m II sure do like to lie and say I mess around with my
little female dog though! If I had my way,y'all would NEVER see the
light of day again!!!
cuhulin


David September 15th 05 07:19 PM

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:02:16 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:




Testimony? I dont see a single fact in this anywhere.


http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&t...hugh%20kaufman


[email protected] September 15th 05 08:22 PM

That goes for Les Locklear and Poppy too.
cuhulin


dxAce September 15th 05 08:40 PM



David wrote:

On 15 Sep 2005 07:02:50 -0700, "John S." wrote:


David wrote:
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con05330.html


Not exactly hidden or being covered up. Every newspaper, newscast and
radio broadcast I've had contact with has had something on the noxious
soup of stuff that is in the streets, houses and bodies of water of New
Orleans. It is one of many many problems to be addressed as the
recover effort moves along. Directly related to the problem of what to
do about pollution is the question of where New Orleand will get a
supply of potable water that will allow this Crescent City rebirth the
politicians are now talking about.

It's a matter of downplaying how dangerous it is.


So it must be like doom... they should report the toxicity on a scale from 1-10.

Or like you they could report it something like: "it's bad for you" or "it's
really bad for you" or it's really, really bad for you", etc., etc.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 15th 05 08:59 PM

Mother Nature has a way of cleaning herself up.
cuhulin


dxAce September 15th 05 09:17 PM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:51:58 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

You're afraid all the time aren't you, 'tard boy? Tell me, are you open and
honest with your therapist? Do you discuss your unfounded fears with him/her?
Have any medications lessened the effects of your paranoia?

dxAce

It ain't paranoia if the threat is real.


Exactly, 'tard boy, exactly. It is paranoia if the threat isn't real.

Take those meds.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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