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Bill September 14th 05 05:29 AM

Off Topic?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill



mongo September 14th 05 09:29 AM

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


seems like politics creeps into everything now days. and ruins it.

[email protected] September 14th 05 12:48 PM


Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem. There's no doubt about it. I don't
understand the whole process of creating and managing usenet newgroups
very well. However, there are things that can be done about this
problem, if people get sufficiently ticked off. It's sad to imagine
this group as 'moderated', but who knows....maybe that's what it will
take.

Steve


David September 14th 05 02:25 PM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:29:27 GMT, "Bill"
wrote:


I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


It's important for our international friends to know we're not all
insane Christo-Fascists here in the USA, and that some of us are
resisting the usurpation of our country.


Michael Lawson September 14th 05 03:01 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem. There's no doubt about it. I don't
understand the whole process of creating and managing usenet

newgroups
very well. However, there are things that can be done about this
problem, if people get sufficiently ticked off. It's sad to imagine
this group as 'moderated', but who knows....maybe that's what it

will
take.


You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,
but I doubt he'd want the job. Or the ng moderated, for
that matter.

--Mike L.



Michael A. Terrell September 14th 05 03:13 PM

wrote:

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem. There's no doubt about it. I don't
understand the whole process of creating and managing usenet newgroups
very well. However, there are things that can be done about this
problem, if people get sufficiently ticked off. It's sad to imagine
this group as 'moderated', but who knows....maybe that's what it will
take.

Steve


For a newsgroup to be moderated, it has to be done at the time the
newsgroup is created. After it is in wide use there is no way to
change it other than to create a new, moderated newsgroup. The other
approach is for a lot of the users to report, and keep reporting the
worst off topic users to their providers, till they lose their
accounts. That takes a lot of time and a lot of people, but it is the
way newsgroups are supposed to self police themselves. Of course, the
offenders start screaming "NetKop" when it happens, but they are the
ones creating the problem in the first place. I have written this group
off as mostly useless. I don't think there is enough left to save.
--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[email protected] September 14th 05 03:24 PM

Michael Lawson wrote:
You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,


Most people have real lives, responsibilities, and friends. You should
feel sorry for someone who is so pitiful that he lives his entire life
through this newsgroup, who cannot put together a coherent argument,
and can only repeat the same potty-mouth potshots. He obviously does
not have the courage to venture into a real political discussion where
people would disagree with him, and he clearly does not even have the
intellect to join a forum where the majority would agree with him. He
may have a ham license, but he is probably a lid and an appliance
operator who does not know which end of the soldering iron is hot.


Michael Lawson September 14th 05 03:58 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...
Michael Lawson wrote:
You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,


Most people have real lives, responsibilities, and friends. You

should
feel sorry for someone who is so pitiful that he lives his entire

life
through this newsgroup, who cannot put together a coherent argument,
and can only repeat the same potty-mouth potshots. He obviously

does
not have the courage to venture into a real political discussion

where
people would disagree with him, and he clearly does not even have

the
intellect to join a forum where the majority would agree with him.

He
may have a ham license, but he is probably a lid and an appliance
operator who does not know which end of the soldering iron is hot.


I see our off topic topic is about to get even further
off topic.

--Mike L.



[email protected] September 14th 05 04:01 PM

Hmm. Yeah. I'd forgotten that, when our international friends need
reassurance or general insight into America's political climate, the
first and most natural place for them they look is rec.radio.shortwave.
I keep lapsing back into the old belief that this is a hobbyist
newsgroup, when of course its true purpose is to assuage the fears of
our international friends, who are thoroughly dependent upon
rec.radio.shortwave as their primary source of news and information.

In fact, given the vast geopolitical importance of rec.radio.shortwave,
I wonder why you don't hear more about it in the 'mainstream' media, or
why so few posts turn up here from major political figures. Weird.


[email protected] September 14th 05 04:03 PM


Our " International Freinds" , fully realizing that , by electing
George Bush to office,
the American people have deprived a villiage somewhere of it's Idiot,
and
- Watching our country bungle the chance to capture Osama Bin Laden at
Tora Bora
and
watching our country Destroy our international good will after 9/11
with a vanity war in Iraq
and..
Seeing our countrys actions become a recruiting tool for Al Quaeda..

- really do Not need a reminder that we , as a country, are on the
wrong track, and will remain there for at least three more years.

Appologies to our freinds overseas..

no, we are not all Savage Neocon Beasts


[email protected] September 14th 05 04:51 PM


Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


X Class flares.. Storm

http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html


dxAce September 14th 05 05:02 PM



David wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:29:27 GMT, "Bill"
wrote:


I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


It's important for our international friends to know we're not all
insane Christo-Fascists here in the USA, and that some of us are
resisting the usurpation of our country.


Translation: I'm a fruitcake 'tard and I don't care who knows it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 14th 05 05:02 PM

On 14 Sep 2005 08:01:39 -0700, wrote:

Hmm. Yeah. I'd forgotten that, when our international friends need
reassurance or general insight into America's political climate, the
first and most natural place for them they look is rec.radio.shortwave.
I keep lapsing back into the old belief that this is a hobbyist
newsgroup, when of course its true purpose is to assuage the fears of
our international friends, who are thoroughly dependent upon
rec.radio.shortwave as their primary source of news and information.

In fact, given the vast geopolitical importance of rec.radio.shortwave,
I wonder why you don't hear more about it in the 'mainstream' media, or
why so few posts turn up here from major political figures. Weird.

Perhaps your antenna is defective.


[email protected] September 14th 05 05:14 PM

At least Yoda did reply to my post about Grundig S350 $99.99 and Grundig
PE 100 $29.99 Radios over there at the Radio Shack store inside
Metocenter Mall just across Highway 80 from me.I hope this post is ON
Topic.
cuhulin


William Mutch September 14th 05 05:37 PM

In article , mtl@[REMOVE-TO-
REPLY]fuse.net says...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem. There's no doubt about it. I don't
understand the whole process of creating and managing usenet

newgroups
very well. However, there are things that can be done about this
problem, if people get sufficiently ticked off. It's sad to imagine
this group as 'moderated', but who knows....maybe that's what it

will
take.


You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,
but I doubt he'd want the job.


he's part of the problem...not likely part of the solution

Or the ng moderated, for
that matter.

--Mike L.




[email protected] September 14th 05 05:46 PM

What are you thinking? Don't reply to me! Your time is too valuable and
should be devoted exclusively to saving the world via your posts to
rec.radio.shortwave.


David September 14th 05 06:19 PM

On 14 Sep 2005 09:46:10 -0700, wrote:

What are you thinking? Don't reply to me! Your time is too valuable and
should be devoted exclusively to saving the world via your posts to
rec.radio.shortwave.

The world is beyond saving.

I just want to be on record as having known all along that the Forces
of Darkness are in control.


dxAce September 14th 05 06:45 PM



David wrote:

On 14 Sep 2005 09:46:10 -0700, wrote:

What are you thinking? Don't reply to me! Your time is too valuable and
should be devoted exclusively to saving the world via your posts to
rec.radio.shortwave.

The world is beyond saving.

I just want to be on record as having known all along that the Forces
of Darkness are in control.


Well they certainly are in New Orleans.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Mark Zenier September 14th 05 06:47 PM

In article .com,
wrote:

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem.


It's more many cases of "I've got testosterone poisoning and I've GOT TO
SHOUT DOWN THE TROLL" problem.

It doesn't work.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


[email protected] September 14th 05 06:48 PM

Thanks for clarifying.

Now, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.


Frank Dresser September 14th 05 06:59 PM


"Michael Lawson" wrote in message
...

You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,
but I doubt he'd want the job. Or the ng moderated, for
that matter.

--Mike L.



Don't plan on rec.radio.shortwave.moderated ever happening. Moderate the
newsgroup yourself. I've expanded my killfile considerably over the last
few weeks.

You might want to do the same.

Frank Dresser



Jim Hackett September 14th 05 08:19 PM

I often wish that someone would write a newsgroup reader that would let you
filter what you want to SEE, not what you DON'T.
It would take up MUCH less resources to specify what words in the title will
pass and who you want to see messages from...



"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Bill wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if shortwave is off topic here.

Bill


We do have a 'troll' problem. There's no doubt about it. I don't
understand the whole process of creating and managing usenet newgroups
very well. However, there are things that can be done about this
problem, if people get sufficiently ticked off. It's sad to imagine
this group as 'moderated', but who knows....maybe that's what it will
take.

Steve


For a newsgroup to be moderated, it has to be done at the time the
newsgroup is created. After it is in wide use there is no way to
change it other than to create a new, moderated newsgroup. The other
approach is for a lot of the users to report, and keep reporting the
worst off topic users to their providers, till they lose their
accounts. That takes a lot of time and a lot of people, but it is the
way newsgroups are supposed to self police themselves. Of course, the
offenders start screaming "NetKop" when it happens, but they are the
ones creating the problem in the first place. I have written this group
off as mostly useless. I don't think there is enough left to save.
--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida




Jim Hackett September 14th 05 08:20 PM

But, but... My computer only has a gig of memory and my kill-file takes up
most of it......



"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"Michael Lawson" wrote in message
...

You'd need someone as the moderator. I'm to busy to
do it; and I imagine that most others are too. Ace could,
but I doubt he'd want the job. Or the ng moderated, for
that matter.

--Mike L.



Don't plan on rec.radio.shortwave.moderated ever happening. Moderate the
newsgroup yourself. I've expanded my killfile considerably over the last
few weeks.

You might want to do the same.

Frank Dresser





[email protected] September 14th 05 10:50 PM

Why do so many more expensive Shortwave Radios nowdays have so many
digital led front panels (and some people want a blue led front panel
instead of the green front led panel (or vicer versa) the radios came
from the factory with) and those little bitty push buttons and
computerized interface chips and so much software that must be used with
or without computers.Why can't a company or companies design and
manufacture Shotwaves Radios similar to the Shortwave Radios of the
1940's and 1950's at least in style? Radios that are pure Shortwave and
no AM/FM/and that other stuff (bells and whistles) that most people
wouldn't hardly ever use or care about anyway.Why is it that nowdays,two
bits worth of plastic (plastic cases that will melt in a car in the hot
sun) radio cases for radios every year or so in a new style like womens
new dresses and shoes) has to be designed and put on the market when
actually it is the same o same o two bits worth of cheap plastic,do they
really think they are buying a better radio? Ooooo,, that new radio
looks soooo neat!,I must buy it because it looks different than my last
years radio even though it is the same o same o!
cuhulin


Brian Hill September 14th 05 11:59 PM


"David" wrote in message

The world is beyond saving.


Oh really? You would have never made it during really hard times in human
history. I can picture you now, Wandering around crying like a baby during
the Dark Ages. Boo Hoo! Its the end times! Boo Hoo!



craigm September 15th 05 12:24 AM

Jim Hackett wrote:
I often wish that someone would write a newsgroup reader that would let you
filter what you want to SEE, not what you DON'T.
It would take up MUCH less resources to specify what words in the title will
pass and who you want to see messages from...



Take a look at scoring and filtering in Knode.

craigm

Michael A. Terrell September 15th 05 12:37 AM

wrote:

Our " International Freinds" , fully realizing that , by electing
George Bush to office,
the American people have deprived a villiage somewhere of it's Idiot,
and
- Watching our country bungle the chance to capture Osama Bin Laden at
Tora Bora
and
watching our country Destroy our international good will after 9/11
with a vanity war in Iraq
and..
Seeing our countrys actions become a recruiting tool for Al Quaeda..

- really do Not need a reminder that we , as a country, are on the
wrong track, and will remain there for at least three more years.

Appologies to our freinds overseas..

no, we are not all Savage Neocon Beasts



Go to
http://www.google.com and enter "failure".

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[email protected] September 15th 05 12:50 AM

www.devilfinder.com Crime and filth in great britain Yeah,they
like to point their fingers and mock U.S.A.,now don't they?
cuhulin


m II September 15th 05 06:12 AM

Jim Hackett wrote:

I often wish that someone would write a newsgroup reader that would let you
filter what you want to SEE, not what you DON'T.
It would take up MUCH less resources to specify what words in the title will
pass and who you want to see messages from...



As far as I know, you can send the messages to any folder you want,
depending on the filters you specify. Nothing says everything you filter
HAS to go to the garbage can.


That's the way with most civilized newsreaders/email agents. I don't
know about Outlook or Outlook Express, as they are virus magnets.
Mozilla or Netscape are fine in this regard.

Go to Tools, Message filters to specify.




mike

[email protected] September 15th 05 05:22 PM

Mark Zenier,maybe you should try some esterone instead?
cuhulin



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