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R75 & R8B
I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does
anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. 73 Bob N9NEO |
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oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. 73 Bob N9NEO HERE WE GO AGAIN !!! I'll fire the first shot. I own an R75 with full Kiwa mods, and I have used an R8, R8A & R8B. I find that the R75 is a better radio for utility and DX'ing. I also find the R75 to be an adequate radio for program listening before it gets any mods and a very good radio for program listening after the Kiwa sync and audio mods. I find the R8B to be SUPERLATIVE as a program listening radio and very good as a DX'ing rig. I dont care what any of the bench statistics are, the R75 performs better as a DX'ing rig then the R8B. I could resolve DX signals with the R75 that I could not with the R8B. I dont care how good the am synch is on the R8B is, or how good the audio quality is. Those advantages count for nothing when your trying to DX very weak and messy signals. For that type of work, you are best served putting your rig in SSB and using ECSS tuning. In that capacity, the R75 is a more capable rig. I dont need to see bench test stats of any kind. I learned this through actual use of both rigs. The R75 performs better for DX'ing then the R8B. Also keep in mind that I did my trials and comparisons of both Radios with two very good antennas. Now, lets here from DXAce -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III ICOM PCR-1000 Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. I can honestly say I own neither, but from having seen the discussions on r.r.s before about those two, the IC-R75 is good value for the money, but the R8B (and the AOR 7030+) are better in absolute terms. Seems to be the consensus that if you're on a budget, an IC-R75 will do well. If you do the work needed to make the R75 roughly the equal of the R8B, you'll end up spending enough money extra to make the cost difference between the R8B and the R75 vanish. --Mike L. |
"Michael" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. 73 Bob N9NEO HERE WE GO AGAIN !!! It beats another Katrina thread. I'll fire the first shot. I own an R75 with full Kiwa mods, and I have used an R8, R8A & R8B. I find that the R75 is a better radio for utility and DX'ing. I also find the R75 to be an adequate radio for program listening before it gets any mods and a very good radio for program listening after the Kiwa sync and audio mods. I find the R8B to be SUPERLATIVE as a program listening radio and very good as a DX'ing rig. I dont care what any of the bench statistics are, the R75 performs better as a DX'ing rig then the R8B. I could resolve DX signals with the R75 that I could not with the R8B. I dont care how good the am synch is on the R8B is, or how good the audio quality is. Those advantages count for nothing when your trying to DX very weak and messy signals. For that type of work, you are best served putting your rig in SSB and using ECSS tuning. In that capacity, the R75 is a more capable rig. I dont need to see bench test stats of any kind. I learned this through actual use of both rigs. The R75 performs better for DX'ing then the R8B. Peter and I were just in a thread about the R75's sync, and he was mentioning that he received info from an Icom rep on how to properly work the sync that isn't in the manual online. Did you hear about anything like that when you were comparing the two?? Also keep in mind that I did my trials and comparisons of both Radios with two very good antennas. Now, lets here from DXAce Of course, the mean between the two extremes (you and Ace) is pretty much that the R75 is good value for the money. The entertaining comparisons are the Sat 800 vs. the R75. Of course, the E1 could sub for the Sat 800 these days. --Mike L. |
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"Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. I can honestly say I own neither, but from having seen the discussions on r.r.s before about those two, the IC-R75 is good value for the money, but the R8B (and the AOR 7030+) are better in absolute terms. Mike, I dont agree with you. I think the R75 is a better radio for DX'ing then the R8B. Just because the R75 cost WAY less then the R8B, it dosent have to mean that the R75 dosent perform better then the R8B. I've used both radios and the R75 was better for resolving difficult DX. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III ICOM PCR-1000 Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
Thanks for the comparisons.
A guy down the street has a R75 for sale and I can take it for a test drive. I'll probably go for one and play with it for a while. Yea, $600 is a lot of money for a radio. Especially since I'm into the Drake for $900 and I still need to get the tuning resolver fixed! At least I got the VHF card and the MS-8 speaker for the price. If the guy down the street wants to let his go for a reasonable price I might jump on that. Otherwise I'll get HRO to make a deal with me. They are a nice bunch. Just north of here and UPS ground gets here next day every time I order from em. 73 Bob |
"Michael" wrote in message ... "Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. I can honestly say I own neither, but from having seen the discussions on r.r.s before about those two, the IC-R75 is good value for the money, but the R8B (and the AOR 7030+) are better in absolute terms. Mike, I dont agree with you. I think the R75 is a better radio for DX'ing then the R8B. Just because the R75 cost WAY less then the R8B, it dosent have to mean that the R75 dosent perform better then the R8B. I've used both radios and the R75 was better for resolving difficult DX. When I talk absolute terms, I don't mean DX only. I meant essentially a radio that can do it all, and where the radios rank there. Discounting both you and Ace as the two ends of the spectrum, the consensus seems to be that the R8B is the better overall radio, but the R75 is a good radio overall for the price point. If you can live without a great stock sync, the R75 is a good radio. --Mike L. |
"Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... "Michael" wrote in message ... "Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. I can honestly say I own neither, but from having seen the discussions on r.r.s before about those two, the IC-R75 is good value for the money, but the R8B (and the AOR 7030+) are better in absolute terms. Mike, I dont agree with you. I think the R75 is a better radio for DX'ing then the R8B. Just because the R75 cost WAY less then the R8B, it dosent have to mean that the R75 dosent perform better then the R8B. I've used both radios and the R75 was better for resolving difficult DX. When I talk absolute terms, I don't mean DX only. I meant essentially a radio that can do it all, and where the radios rank there. Discounting both you and Ace as the two ends of the spectrum, the consensus seems to be that the R8B is the better overall radio, but the R75 is a good radio overall for the price point. If you can live without a great stock sync, the R75 is a good radio. --Mike L. Mike, I think your commentary is fair, but you haven't stated that the R75 is a better DX'ing radio. Many people that have used both radios including myself prefer the R75 to the R8B for DX'ing because it does a better job resolving very weak and messy DX. That's not brand loyalty, that is user proven fact. Add to that, the R75 is a very good radio for program listening. The criticisms with the R75's stock AM synch and audio section are WAY over worked. Even if it is unmodified, with an external speaker, the R75 is perfectly adequate for program listening. The criticisms with the R75's stock AM synch and audio section are WAY over worked. In my opinion, that makes the R75 the better ultimate value and the WAY better value for dollar. -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III ICOM PCR-1000 Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
Michael wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I am running Drake R8B and am thinking about buying the ICOM R75. Does anybody here own both and could you comment? I think I can probably still get one for 600 from HRO or Universal. 73 Bob N9NEO HERE WE GO AGAIN !!! I'll fire the first shot. I own an R75 with full Kiwa mods, and I have used an R8, R8A & R8B. I find that the R75 is a better radio for utility and DX'ing. I also find the R75 to be an adequate radio for program listening before it gets any mods and a very good radio for program listening after the Kiwa sync and audio mods. I find the R8B to be SUPERLATIVE as a program listening radio and very good as a DX'ing rig. I dont care what any of the bench statistics are, the R75 performs better as a DX'ing rig then the R8B. I could resolve DX signals with the R75 that I could not with the R8B. I dont care how good the am synch is on the R8B is, or how good the audio quality is. Those advantages count for nothing when your trying to DX very weak and messy signals. For that type of work, you are best served putting your rig in SSB and using ECSS tuning. In that capacity, the R75 is a more capable rig. I dont need to see bench test stats of any kind. I learned this through actual use of both rigs. The R75 performs better for DX'ing then the R8B. Also keep in mind that I did my trials and comparisons of both Radios with two very good antennas. Now, lets here from DXAce That would be 'hear', and I disagree with your findings! dxAce Michigan USA "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers.© |
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