FDR wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
DaviD - Spoken (written) like a True 'fascistas' trying to
"Subjugate " all Persons-of-Faith to 'your' Secular Ideology.
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freedom,,, Freedom... FREEDOM ! ! ! For One And All !

Freedom, unless you aren't a Christian.

Ya know, there's a reason you're known as FrickinDumbassRetard, don't you?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR - Thank You for Proving the Point that in the Liberal
Democrat Party of the USA {Run World} the Rights of All
Citizens who happen to be Persons-of-Faith would be limited
to their Homes and Churches.
.
FDR - So you would limit Freedom of Speech is 'only' to Secular
Liberals in our Public Schools.
.
FDR - Your Public School System would have Christians and other
Persons-of-Faith be force into silence about a part of their
life that is very important to them.

Whay other persons of faith? The only ones whoever complain are Chrisitans
because they can't sing praises to Jesus at the school recital.C'mon RHF,
where's the outcry to hear about Mohammed? Where are the Muslim kids
parents complaining they can't kneel on a mat and pray three times a day?
Where's the Hindus?

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FDR - Maybe you would like two separate Public School Systems
one 'quality' Set of Schools for the Liberal {Secularized}
Students. An another 'sequestered' {inoculated} Set of Schools
for the Christians and other Persons-of-Faith; so that they would
not contaminate {infect} the Liberal Secular Students with thoughts
of God and Religion.

Actually, there are plenty of Catholic schools where Catholics send their
kids everyday because they feel it's important enough to make Christ a 24
hour a day deal. You are welcome to send your kids to any private school
you'd like, there's no one stopping you. You can even home school your kids
and hang pictures of Jesus above their heads as they pray an learn the
multiplication tables. No one is stopping you. But all you ever hear is
complaints from Christians because public school isn't all about teaching
the kids about Jesus.

= = = Two Systems - Separate and Un-Equal [.]
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FDR - Replace Christian or Persons-of-Faith with Black or
African-American; and may be you can see the Bigotry and Bias
in how you view and would treat Christians and Persons-of-Faith
in your Democrat Party of the USA "New Liberal Society".
[ aka : Democrat {National Socialist} Party of the USA ]
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God {Allah} Bless America - Amen.
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God Bless Our Public Schools with Equality for All - Amen.
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god bless you fdr - amen ~ RHF
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FDR wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
BD - Was that one of my Points and Arguments ? - No !
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BD - Do Not Try To Hide From The Fact That "you' Are
Propagating the Liberal Democrat Party of the USA
Anti-Christian and Anti-Jew "HATE" by trying to 'equate'
Conservative {Fundamentalist} Christians and Jews
with the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.
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preach that hate bd - persons of faith have rights too ~ RHF


You have rights, and your rights can be and should be preached at home or
at
church. School should be about learning math, english, geography, etc.
Not
about how God made Eve from Adam's rib.

Consevatives complain so much about how government is so bad at doing
things, and yet they beg to have them in the religion teaching business.
So
contradictory.

"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...

"Brian Denley" wrote

Any idea why US science student lag behind all other modern countries
(except fundamentalists ones of course)?


You sound like a shill for the Public School Teachers Union.

I have a very simple answer for your question and it fundamentally has
nothing to do with the teacher's and its "Socialist" liberal Union. It
all
boils down to the parents or rather, parent as in singular.

In the U.S. the growing percentage of disadvantaged students from single
parent households enrolled in public schools is a key problem. As the
teacher spends more and more of his or her time disciplining disruptive
students in class

Bennett could have had all those kids aborted so they wouldn't be
disruptions.

the parents of average and above average students find
their children are not getting the education that their tax dollars are
supposed to deliver. The answer for them is also simple. Move to
another,
better school district or enroll in a private school. In most cases
private
school is the best choice and the Public school system with their teachers
Liberal/Socialist agenda can "go to hell!"

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR - "Just saying that fanaticism abounds in other religions too."
- - - NO ! - You are trying to equate Conservative {Fundamentalist}
Christians and Jews as a Group to the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.
Preach That HATE - Don't go back on your words now FDR.
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FDR - "One has to be American to be Christian?"
- - - Don't Try To Change The Topic. You were the one who
brought up the Crusades and the Inquisition.

And you asked how many were Americans.


FDR - So Just How Do the Crusades and the Inquisition
related to today's Conservative {Fundamentalist} American
Christians and Jews ?
FDR - One Has To BE an American - To BE an American [.]
FDR - One Has To BE an Christian - To BE an Christian [.]
- - - Note - That They Are Not Mutually Inclusive or Exclusive.

Except when you are at school where you have to be both.

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FDR - "Bull****"
- - - Yes the "LIES" of the Democrat Party of the USA
that are designed to propagate HATE Against Christians
and Jews are to use your word 'bull****' [.]
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FDR - "Except it's not a sin. Unless you think love is a sin."
- - - Their is a Difference between "Love" and "Sex" FDR
and if you do not understand that then get a basic education.
That is unless you happen to think that since 'you' Love 'your'
Father and 'your' Son that 'you' should be having Sex with them
as a Natural Thing !

You speak of something called rape, where the parties are not consenting
adults.

Just as a adult man and women freely love each other and want to marry, we
should afford that to adult men or women who want to freely love their own
gender. I don't buy that it's a sin. Love isn't a sin.



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FDR - Speaking of LOVE {Not Sex} Jesus said,
"Greater Love has no man than this,
that he lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13
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fdr - hate the sin - love the sinner - amen ~ RHF
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"Greg" wrote in message
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From: "RHF"
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: 1 Oct 2005 08:58:37 -0700
Subject: (OT) : Liberals 'equate' "Fundamentalist" Christians and
Jews to
the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists

FDR - Thank You for Proving the Point that in the Liberal
Democrat Party of the USA {Run World} the Rights of All
Citizens who happen to be Persons-of-Faith would be limited
to their Homes and Churches.
.
RHF - This is the kind of partisan invective that makes people cringe.
"Limited to their homes and church"? You can pray anywhere you want. You
can pray in school. You can pray at the mall, the car wash, a tittie bar.
Who cares where you pray? The issue is compelling everyone in the place
to
pray along with you. The role of government is not to compel kids to pray
in school. They can meet in groups and pray before school, like they do
in
communities near me. The school athletes can join the Christian athlete's
group - whatever it's called. They can meet together and pray before the
big game, right there on the football field - or afterward. No one is
violating their first amendment rights. Just don't ask me to stand up and
beg Jesus to help the fighting, marauding Red Devils to slaughter the
cowardly Blue Devils for the district championship. Not in a public
stadium. Keep it to yourself. And leave my kids alone. If I want them
to
pray I'll take care of it myself.

And one more word of advice. You need to quit listening to so much
right-wing talk radio. They have sold you a bill of goods which you can't
seem to stop regurgitating. Democrats are not anti-Christian, they're not
all atheists. The pejorative "liberal" has been used so much that it has
lost its sting. So the new buzzword from the right is now "secularist".
Give me a break! God isn't a Republican. Are you so insecure in your
religious beliefs that you need everyone to agree with your view?

I'd argue that Christ came off as being more liberal than conservative in
his actions.


Greg

Greg - Kindly address your concerns for a Free and Open Society
to FDR and DaviD who would ban Persons-of-Fatih from our Public
Schools; and eliminate their abiltiy to simply be themselves. ~ RHF

SeeingEyeDog wrote:

They are not advocating "teaching" religion. They are simply
advocating giving
students an awareness of other points of view so that students
themselves can
decide in what to beleive or not beleive and not have to be forcefully
indoctrinated
in the liberal, "progressive", socialist, communist athiest ideology.

No one is trying to shove the "teaching" of religion in public
schools. They simply wish to point out to students the "possible"
alternative points of view.
The Left-wing is absolutely frightened to the core that this would
undermine their Socialist and
ultimately Communist agenda. And you know what? It most certainly
will!

Really? Then scientists should be allowed in your church to teach alternate
theories about religion. Correct? The 'other points of view' are religious
in nature - not science!

BTW, When did science get associated with 'left-wing' and 'socialist'
agenda? Are scientists now considered evil by conservatives? Wow!

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 22:51:30 -0400, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

SeeingEyeDog wrote:

They are not advocating "teaching" religion. They are simply
advocating giving
students an awareness of other points of view so that students
themselves can
decide in what to beleive or not beleive and not have to be forcefully
indoctrinated
in the liberal, "progressive", socialist, communist athiest ideology.

No one is trying to shove the "teaching" of religion in public
schools. They simply wish to point out to students the "possible"
alternative points of view.
The Left-wing is absolutely frightened to the core that this would
undermine their Socialist and
ultimately Communist agenda. And you know what? It most certainly
will!

Really? Then scientists should be allowed in your church to teach alternate
theories about religion. Correct? The 'other points of view' are religious
in nature - not science!

BTW, When did science get associated with 'left-wing' and 'socialist'
agenda? Are scientists now considered evil by conservatives? Wow!

Science, by definition, is apolitical however any of the 'political
machines' will use it (or select portions of it or just plain
junk-science) to further their cause when necessary. I am pretty sure
some conservatives feel scientists are evil. It is common for folks
of strong religious belief (no specific denominations mentioned) to
presume scientists to be lacking in religious faith though many of
them (scientists) have said that as a result of their studies they
find their faith in 'a creator' to be strengthened.

I endorse teaching our children about science, religion, history, the
arts and especially critical thinking. Religion will not suffer,
people will still find faith and some will still be agnostics as has
been the case over the history of mankind. Also, science will not
suffer and we will continue to lead better lives as a result of it.

Just my opinion - your mileage will undoubtedly vary.

www.team8plus.org I have believed from day 1 and I still believe now
it was a U.S.fed govt (a couple of "other ones" were involved too)
inside "job".I never believe Anything! U.S.fed govt ever says.I do NOT!
believe U.S.fed govts "official story".
cuhulin

dxAce wrote:
b ****ers means more depressed wages.

Well, we certainly don't need any more dumb ****ers such as yourself, brain
stem.

If so, why are YOU here?

Adding a foul mouthed racist bigot such as yourself to the mix adds
nothing of value to an otherwise fine group.




mike