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Jan Panteltje November 27th 05 01:23 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either
1.8 to 32 MHz
or
3 to 21 Mhz.
Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and
found to be 111.639 times the allowed limit....
They had to reduce it a factor 111.639 to make even digital radio
reception (DRM (Digital Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US,
I think US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest
too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable,
and that is not regulated like radio'.
Of cause powerlines are not shielded, and high up there, the
perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free internet
from Austria in the US. ;-)




Professor November 27th 05 05:20 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje wrote:
Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either
1.8 to 32 MHz
or
3 to 21 Mhz.
Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and
found to be 111.639 times the allowed limit....
They had to reduce it a factor 111.639 to make even digital radio
reception (DRM (Digital Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US,
I think US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest
too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable,
and that is not regulated like radio'.
Of cause powerlines are not shielded, and high up there, the
perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free internet
from Austria in the US. ;-)



David November 27th 05 06:13 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:

My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Part of Big Brother's campaign to control the airwaves completely.
They do not want us to be able to communicate without using their
infrastructure.


Michael Lawson November 28th 05 03:05 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
Locally, the people I know who have tried BPL
aren't that thrilled with it; they can get better
average throughput from cable or ADSL provided
by the local phone company. I know that for
me personally, if I were to go to BPL, it wouldn't
be an approved vendor for a home office for
my employer.

--Mike L.


"Professor" wrote in message
oups.com...
My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC

and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers

have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje wrote:
Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either
1.8 to 32 MHz
or
3 to 21 Mhz.
Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and
found to be 111.639 times the allowed limit....
They had to reduce it a factor 111.639 to make even digital radio
reception (DRM (Digital Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US,
I think US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest
too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable,
and that is not regulated like radio'.
Of cause powerlines are not shielded, and high up there, the
perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free

internet
from Austria in the US. ;-)





Telamon November 28th 05 06:59 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
In article ,
"Michael Lawson" wrote:

Locally, the people I know who have tried BPL
aren't that thrilled with it; they can get better
average throughput from cable or ADSL provided
by the local phone company. I know that for
me personally, if I were to go to BPL, it wouldn't
be an approved vendor for a home office for
my employer.

--Mike L.


"Professor" wrote in message
oups.com...
My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC
and majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and
CBers have a lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to
be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje wrote:
Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either 1.8 to 32 MHz
or 3 to 21 Mhz. Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and found to be
111.639 times the allowed limit.... They had to reduce it a
factor 111.639 to make even digital radio reception (DRM (Digital
Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US, I think
US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable, and
that is not regulated like radio'. Of cause powerlines are not
shielded, and high up there, the perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free
internet from Austria in the US. ;-)


Just another bad application of a good idea similar to DRM.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

james November 29th 05 05:25 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:13:23 GMT, David wrote:

+On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:
+
+My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
+majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
+lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.
+
+Professor
+www.telstar-electronics.com
+
+
+Part of Big Brother's campaign to control the airwaves completely.
+They do not want us to be able to communicate without using their
+


**********

BWAAAAAHAAAHAAAA!

best laugh I have heard today.

james

james November 29th 05 05:30 PM

In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.
 
On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:

+majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
+lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.
+
+Professor
+www.telstar-electronics.com

*******

Hams have minimal and the CB lobby is next to nothing.

I personally can't see where power line internet will be a real
challenge to current copper phone lines and fiber. With Verizon
spending billions to string fiber to individuals homes, it wont be
long before the lawsu its begin and they will have to grant access to
these. Once that happens powerline DSL in the US is a foot note in
history.

james


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