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Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
My experience with SW so far is limited to inexpensive analogue tuning
radio and a dirt cheap Kaide KK959. I've decided to get something decent and have read quite a number of reviews on Sangean ATS-909 and Sony ICF-7600GR on the web but am unable to decide which one to buy. The Sangean seems to have more features and better packaged (including the AC adaptor) but costs about 1/3 more than the Sony. It is also larger. Given the difference in price, do you guys think they are of different class to render a comparison meanlingless? Like you don't compare a Toyota Camry with a Mercedes S class, but you can do so with a Lexus LS430. BTW, both the Sangean ATS-909 and Sony ICF-7600GR have been around since 2001. Should I wait for their replacement model? |
ATS-909 vs. 7600GR : 909 battery consumption is not that bad...
Hello all, I want to give a word about the 909 battery consumption. I don't have (and never had) the Sony, so I will not compare. I mostly use the 909 with the A/C adapter (at home mainly), so no battery issues. At home the A/C adapter brings no noise into the radio, even with computer working near by (the PC is on the ground floor, and the radio in the room just above, on the 1st floor). I use batteries in hotels when travelling, since hotel's power networks seam to bring a *LOT OF NOISE*... So : using the radio on batteries more than two hours a day, during two weeks, eat half of the battery, according to the battery meter of the radio. So far I'm happy with that result and I'm thinking of buying a set the rechargeable batteries... Charly |
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As for Sangean, I haven't really heard anything from them since I got into this hobby last summer. I don't know what they could be planning. Do you know about the Super 909 that is offered by radiolabs.com? Supposedly, out of the box, the ATS-909 has weak AM and SW reception, and one of the mods in the Super 909 is enhanced reception. The blue backlit screen looks very cool too. More details on this package are on the radiolabs website. The price is over US$300 though. I use a SW7600GR and I'm happy with it. The alphanumeric memories offered by the ATS-909 seems nice but I find that I hardly use memories anyway. I use direct frequency entry and scanning instead. |
ATS-909 vs. 7600GR : 909 battery consumption is not that bad...
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Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
Hello.
I would strongly suggest buying the Sony ICF-SW7600GR along with a Sony AN-LP1 antenna as quickly as possible. The AN-LP1 has been discontinued in North America, but several dealers, including AES and Universal, still have some - for how much longer no one knows. The Sony radio, in addition to having a synchronous detection circuit which really enhances MW and SW reception, is built to a very high construction standard for a portable. (My oldest sample is almost eight years old.) The Sangean does not have this detection circuit which, in my opinion, is one of the most significant enhancements to AM reception since single sideband. I have personally owned two Sangean radios - the ATA-808A and the ATS-606AP (both made in Taiwan as is the ATS-909) - both of which "died" after rather short lives. In my opinion, Sangean radios are not constructed with a great deal of integrity. The Sangean ATS-909 has more "features" (though none of really great importance) than the Sony, but, frankly, having been "burned" twice, I would not buy or recommend one. I have never had even a single problem with ANY of my Sony portables (two ICF-SW35s, two ICF-SW7600Gs, and five ICF-SW7600GRs, as well as five AN-LP1 antennas). If you are interested in the Sony SW radio line, I suggest you act very soon. Best, Joe |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
I second what Joe Analssandrini says.About nine years ago,I bought a
Sangean ATS-909 radio from ccrane.I tried it out for a week and I packed it up and I sent it back.I just didn't like that radio.A few months ago,I bought a Sony 7600GR radio from www.jr.com I am very pleased with my Sony 7600GR radio.For a new portable radio,it is hard to beat.By the way,I have read a few reports before that some of those Sangean radios,the front digital readout panels on them start going buggy after a while and ccrane charges about fifty dollars (plus shipping and handling charges) to repair those radios.Once Bitten,Twice Shy,an old saying goes. cuhulin |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
Hello,
Joe Analssandrini adviced to buy Sony because of its quality and sync detector and also because of bad experiences with Sangean radios. I agree Joe that the Sony has the sync detector. If I had to buy a new radio today, I possibly go for that one, or a Super 909. I "only" own a regular 909 bought in early 2002. It is now 4 years old and so far ... I'm lucky with it! Reception is ok off the whip for me, but perhaps I should try another radio (this is my first and only one) before giving a final note. With an external antenna it gives very good results. I've tried so far : - ANT-60 reel antenna (23 ft wire) - home made coax loop (cut for 5 Mhz) - home-made random dipole - Kaito KA31 active antenna (same as Degen DE31) The two last give the best results (I have to study the dipole a bit more, I suspect it gives better results than the Kaito antenna...). In fact for me the choice will be : Sony sync detector vs Sangean memories and RDS (I'm in Europe and RDS is widely used here) It is realy a matter of personnal choice. Else there is also Degen/Kaito 1103 and 1102 radios that are said to be good for a much cheaper price. But this is another story. Both the Sony and Sangean are good in my humble opinion... The fun of this hobby begins with the radio, but then continues with antennas, a infinite field of study and experiments :-D But saying so will not help much NGU to decide perhaps... :-) Charly |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
weatherall wrote: Do you know about the Super 909 that is offered by radiolabs.com? Supposedly, out of the box, the ATS-909 has weak AM and SW reception, and one of the mods in the Super 909 is enhanced reception. The blue backlit screen looks very cool too. More details on this package are on the radiolabs website. The price is over US$300 though. Reviews of RadioLabs Super 909: http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/mtsuper909.pdf http://www.radiointel.com/review-sangeansuper909.htm |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
Joe Analssandrini wrote: I have personally owned two Sangean radios - the ATA-808A and the ATS-606AP (both made in Taiwan as is the ATS-909) - both of which "died" after rather short lives. In my opinion, Sangean radios are not constructed with a great deal of integrity. I've used the 606A as a knock-about radio for about 5 years now. It has held up pretty well, by and large. Only once did I have a problem - when the LCD temporarily went out (for about 2 days) during a monsoon season in the Western Ghats. I guess that was attributable to the excessive moisture in the air. I will agree with you, though, that Sony radios seem to be built to a higher standard, although I don't know why they couldn't put a half-way decent FM section in the 'SW77. junius |
Sony ICF-7600GR for $129
Sony 7600GR On sale
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?...sonicfsw7600gr Use the money you saved over the ATS-909 and also buy the Sony AN-LP1 active antenna. Along with the 7600GR's Sync Detector for digging out weak signals the addition of the AN-LP1 will blow the socks off the ATS-909 and anything else it is price catagory. |
ABOUT - The Sangean ATS-909 (RadioShack DX398) and the Sony ICF-SW7600GR Battery Power and Comsumption
Charly,
I have both the Sangean ATS-909 (RadioShack DX398) and the Sony ICF-SW7600GR 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios. READ - About the Sangean ATS-909 / RadioShack DX-398 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio / Receiver http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e48ff9439a3c76 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e677f0485110a3 Sangean ATS-909 - 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/features/m...rs/ats909.html http://www.dxing.com/rx/ats818cs.htm http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/1909.html Front View - Sangean ATS-909 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...le/1909frt.jpg Rear View - Sangean ATS-909 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...e/1909rear.jpg Left and Right Side Views - Sangean ATS-909 http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...e/1909side.jpg Check-Out the Radio Shack DX-398 / Sangean ATS-909 Group at YAHOO ! GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DX398/ READ - About the Sony ICF-SW7600 / Sony ICF-SW7600G / Sony ICF-SW7600GR AM/FM Shortwave Radio Information & Links http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...86e2c6735c3459 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9eab932f60c76c http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...acbe683366a500 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e0b141f462d88d http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2212fb3f2301a5 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...ac24735bdffee3 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c232b1c5d205ea http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c4c12c1284c635 Setting-Up the Sony ICF-SW7600GR with the Select-A-Tenna on a Lazy Susan for AM/MW DXing http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d078c37631cae7 Combining the Sony ICF-SW7600GR and Sony AN-LP1 Active Shortwave Antenna = Two-are-Better-than-One ! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...71f5107eef0b02 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...abcc874e755ea2 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e6204ae5d69cca http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...abcc874e755ea2 Using the Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio with the Sony AN-LP1 Active Shortwave Loop Antenna - The combination-of-the-two make for good Shortwave Listening (SWL) Traveling Companions. Sony ICF-SW7600GR - 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/features/m...-sw7600gr.html http://www.dxing.com/rx/icfsw760.htm http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html Front Diagram - Sony ICF-SW7600GR http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...le/0360frt.jpg Controls Diagram - Sony ICF-SW7600GR http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...e/0360cont.jpg Rear Diagram - Sony ICF-SW7600GR http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...e/0360back.jpg LCD Diagram - Sony ICF-SW7600GR http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...le/0360lcd.jpg Left and Right Side Views - Sony ICF-SW7600GR http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ble/0360sv.jpg Check-Out the two YAHOO Groups for Sony ICF-SW7600GR Owners. * Sony ICF-SW7600 / G / GR eGroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/7600group/ * Sony ICF-SW7600GR eGroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/7600GR/ Battery Life : I have not Timed them and Recorded the Battery Life of both Radios : But my general impression is that the Sangean ATS-909 (RadioShack DX398) sucks-up batteries faster then the Sony ICF-SW7600GR. Question - Has anyone actually Timed the Sangean ATS-909 (RadioShack DX398) -vice- the Sony ICF-SW7600GR Side-by-Side ? Re-Chargable Batteries : In either case with most 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios where man-made-noise is an issue and the use of Batteries for Power is recommended for improved receiption. Then the use of Rechargable Batteries is highly recommended as a way of greatly reducing the Cost of Battery Operation of the Radio. just my two cents worth - iane ~ RHF . Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer Gruppe für SWL Antennen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . Все *адушны ! - - - Группа оператора на приеме коротковолнового диапазона Radio для Aнтенн SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . ¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . = = = = = Translation = = = = = All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners (SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/ . . .. . |
Sony ICF-7600GR for $129
SED - I Would Agree ~ RHF
Combining the Sony ICF-SW7600GR 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio with Sony AN-LP1 Active Loop Shortwave Antenna { Yes - Two-are-Better-than-One ! } http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...71f5107eef0b02 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...abcc874e755ea2 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e6204ae5d69cca http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...abcc874e755ea2 The combination-of-the-two make for good Shortwave Listening (SWL) Traveling Companions. just my two cents worth - iane ~ RHF |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
Well, I own Grundigs. I consider them to be very good products.
They package them under the name "Eton" these days...you know how corporations consolidate. I have owned a "909" Sangean, and would not reccomend it. The reasons I didn't care for its performance are outlined in this thread, by other writers. If Grundig appeals to you at all, check out heartlandamerica.com Darren |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
I get those www.heartlandamerica.com email newsletters.I haven't
bought anything from them yet.I am saving up for a new RCA flat screen wide screen tv set (about five hundred something dollars) now. cuhulin |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
Hi Ngu,
If you're needing a fuller idea of the various features offered by each of these sets, you might visit the radiolabs website and download the user manuals for the '909 and 'SW7600GR: http://www.radiolabs.com/support/downloads.php junius ngu wrote: My experience with SW so far is limited to inexpensive analogue tuning radio and a dirt cheap Kaide KK959. I've decided to get something decent and have read quite a number of reviews on Sangean ATS-909 and Sony ICF-7600GR on the web but am unable to decide which one to buy. The Sangean seems to have more features and better packaged (including the AC adaptor) but costs about 1/3 more than the Sony. It is also larger. Given the difference in price, do you guys think they are of different class to render a comparison meanlingless? Like you don't compare a Toyota Camry with a Mercedes S class, but you can do so with a Lexus LS430. BTW, both the Sangean ATS-909 and Sony ICF-7600GR have been around since 2001. Should I wait for their replacement model? |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
rec.antiques.radio+phono news group.One of those guys over there,a few
weeks ago,posted his website/homepage about hot rodding an AARadio with a better AM Ferrite core home made Antenna and lots more information too.(something like that anyway) You can build just as good,or better,Antenna than you can buy.I know this for a Fact. cuhulin |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
I tried the 7600 and was very disappointed in the sync function. It made no discernible difference in reception. This may have been an isolated situation, but I remember others complaining about the same thing. A sync detector will make no difference when listening to a local flame-thrower because it is not needed in that situation. Try to listen to a barely perceptible flea power station and then turn on the sync detector. That's what its for! It is for DXing not flame-thrower program listening! Don't confuse the two. |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
ngu wrote in :
My experience with SW so far is limited to inexpensive analogue tuning radio and a dirt cheap Kaide KK959. I have had the 909 since it came out and and I like it a lot back then I was traveling alot and I wanted reliable information rather than the local tv and music radio. I had been a ham back then too but did not have a transmiter with me so I used the SSB portion of the radio to listem to the hams chating ;-) ! I ran it off of batteries and had a long wire I droped out of the hotel room window! Not the best setup but it worked! John |
Sangean ATS-909 vs. Sony ICF-7600GR
ngu wrote in :
My experience with SW so far is limited to inexpensive analogue tuning radio and a dirt cheap Kaide KK959. |
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