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dxAce January 28th 06 12:26 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 


Lenny wrote:

So, how exactly do you use the nulls?
Does the ferrite rod move around inside the radio with a control?


One merely moves the radio.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Invader3K January 28th 06 01:51 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
To add to what Ace said, you generally just pivot the radio physically
on its axis to "null" any noise or interference. So, if the radio is
sitting on a table, pivoting the radio left or right should reduce
interference. Might seem silly, but it really does work. Ferrite rods
almost never move inside the radio.

I do have an old '70s Pioneer stereo hi-fi receiver with an _external_
ferrite AM antenna that does move and pivot, however.

FWIW, I don't know if it's still available, but I have an AM loop
antenna I bought from Radio Shack about five years ago that does a good
job in enhancing AM (MW) signals with almost any radio. It works quite
well with my Satellit 800.


[email protected] January 28th 06 03:00 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.


[email protected] January 28th 06 03:20 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
On 28 Jan 2006 07:00:37 -0800, wrote:

Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.


I hope you're being facetious.............this radio was being
announced as "soon to be released" for over 10 years beginning with
the moniker "Grundig SAT 900."

[email protected] January 28th 06 03:22 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
I have a Pioneer model number SX-690 stereo AM/FM radio I bought at the
Goodwill thrift store a couple of months ago.On the back of the radio
there is what looks like to me an antenna that pivots from a horizontal
position to a verticle position.Is my radio the same model you have? Is
the antenna for AM or FM reception or both?
cuhulin


dxAce January 28th 06 03:25 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 


wrote:

On 28 Jan 2006 07:00:37 -0800,
wrote:

Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.


I hope you're being facetious.............this radio was being
announced as "soon to be released" for over 10 years beginning with
the moniker "Grundig SAT 900."


Should have announced that it was soon to be recalled...

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Lenny January 28th 06 04:12 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
I have a beautiful old Grundig 5060 that has a ferrite antenna.
The concentric control behind the volume knob rotates it in a horizontal
plane.
I'll have to play with it today.
Lenny

wrote in message
...
I have a Pioneer model number SX-690 stereo AM/FM radio I bought at the
Goodwill thrift store a couple of months ago.On the back of the radio
there is what looks like to me an antenna that pivots from a horizontal
position to a verticle position.Is my radio the same model you have? Is
the antenna for AM or FM reception or both?
cuhulin




[email protected] January 28th 06 04:51 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
Whip antennas are notorious for getting bent up or breaking or getting
mashed/kinked or coming loose.E1 radios (in my opinion) just look as
though they should have built in ferrite core antennas for AM recption.I
have many radios that have AM band plus some other bands too and every
one of them that have AM band,they all have a built in ferrite core
antenna.Sometimes,it might not be conveniet to pull up those E1 antennas
to use the AM band,for instance sitting in a cubbyhole or a small
space.It just seems to me that there is something missing from E1
radios.
cuhulin


weatherall January 28th 06 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by
Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.

Sarcasm? :)

http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1.htm

"Originally unveiled in prototype form at the Consumer Electronics Show in Chicago in 1996 as the Grundig Satellit 900, the E1 has followed a long road from those first mockup models to commercial realization."

D Peter Maus January 28th 06 05:40 PM

AM Antenna in Eton E1
 
Telamon wrote:

The radio has an external antenna jack that you could use to connect a
small amplified loop antenna. Located a few feet away from the E1 so it
does not pick up the display noise you could point the loop by hand and
I would like that better than having to turn the radio itself in a
certain direction to null out a competing on-channel station or local
noise source. It's more more money and trouble though.




I use a McKay Dymek DA5 shielded loop antenna for MW reception here,
on the external antenna jack of my Fanfare FTA-100. It's a little more
involved than a built-in but the results are worth it. I can null out
competing/interfering stations and noise sources. And peak signals to
maximize noise quieting. Especially on AM stereo sources, this can be a
plus.

The antenna works well with my Grundig's too.

But by having the antenna remotely situated from the tuner, I can
select a lowest noise location for the antenna, which, with the large
number of sources I have in the building, is getting to become more of a
challenge every day.

Lack of an internal ferrite antenna is, at best, a nuisance.

But I've been thinking about something a little more remote.
Something with a pickup outside the building, which is impractical with
the DA-5. Anyone have experience with the CCrane twin coil AM antenna
(formerly Justice antenna?)

Judging by the installation manual, it may be the right solution not
only for me here, but for E1 users who would prefer the noise benefits
of a ferrite antenna.

Any comments from experience would be welcome.


p



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