What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tim.

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

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Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

http://www.intervalsignals.net/

Jackie

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Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

http://www.intervalsignals.net/

Jackie

Thanks for the link !

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

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wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

In article .com,
wrote:

Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel
drums and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and
then a step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

5975 is a busy frequency. According to the ILG table the BBC starts
broadcasting from Delano and is ending a relay from Guiana at that hour
so maybe you heard chimes from both those relays.

According to Passport Uzbekistan and Vietnam are on frequency at that
time.

This situation might be a good candidate for a loop antenna where you
could null one of that stations out.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

In article ,
running dogg wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.

They're both there at the same time. I think 5995 is stronger.
(BBC in Spanish?).

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

Mark asked:

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

Well, I heard it as "Tong Tong Tong Ting."

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California
targeted at Central America stepping on the
tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Maybe I'm remembering Cold War era broadcasts but all the VOA stuff
I've heard had Yankee Doodle at the beginning of the broadcast.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975
for the last 5-7 minutes of the 02:00 hour,
when they warm the transmitter up and
then send the tones. Montsinery has been S9
and Delano us usually 10 dB stronger.

It's not nearly as bad here on the East Coast - Usually the BBC
broadcast has little to no noticable QRM. Given your proximity I can
see how the situation is reversed!

Now I gotta figure out why I hear number stations underneath several of
the Okochobee broadcasts!
(That's not an easy feat, they are almost local.)

Tim.

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

In article . com,
wrote:
Mark asked:

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

Well, I heard it as "Tong Tong Tong Ting."

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California
targeted at Central America stepping on the
tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Maybe I'm remembering Cold War era broadcasts but all the VOA stuff
I've heard had Yankee Doodle at the beginning of the broadcast.

It's a relay of an hour of the BBC, and according to the VT Communications
schedule I downloaded off that Italian web site, it's from Delano. Does
the VOA still run it, or did they contract out the operation of there?

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975
for the last 5-7 minutes of the 02:00 hour,
when they warm the transmitter up and
then send the tones. Montsinery has been S9
and Delano us usually 10 dB stronger.

It's not nearly as bad here on the East Coast - Usually the BBC
broadcast has little to no noticable QRM. Given your proximity I can
see how the situation is reversed!

Now I gotta figure out why I hear number stations underneath several of
the Okochobee broadcasts!
(That's not an easy feat, they are almost local.)

Maybe Family Radio is taking in a bit of CIA money on the side. ;-)

Back about 15 years ago, there was some strange close-in QRM to some of
the stronger BBC signals in the 6 MHz band. In this case it was RTTY,
and even stranger the signal went away when I bitched about it on the
shortwave alt.*? group we used back then.

I always wondered if putting your spy communications close to a widely
received broadcast would be good cover. They couldn't take the spy out
and shoot them for just listening to the Beeb.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

What's underneath BBC 5975kHz @ 0257UTC?
 

Mark Zenier wrote:

In article . com,
wrote:
Mark asked:

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

Well, I heard it as "Tong Tong Tong Ting."

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California
targeted at Central America stepping on the
tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Maybe I'm remembering Cold War era broadcasts but all the VOA stuff
I've heard had Yankee Doodle at the beginning of the broadcast.

It's a relay of an hour of the BBC, and according to the VT Communications
schedule I downloaded off that Italian web site, it's from Delano. Does
the VOA still run it, or did they contract out the operation of there?

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975
for the last 5-7 minutes of the 02:00 hour,
when they warm the transmitter up and
then send the tones. Montsinery has been S9
and Delano us usually 10 dB stronger.

It's not nearly as bad here on the East Coast - Usually the BBC
broadcast has little to no noticable QRM. Given your proximity I can
see how the situation is reversed!

Now I gotta figure out why I hear number stations underneath several of
the Okochobee broadcasts!
(That's not an easy feat, they are almost local.)

Maybe Family Radio is taking in a bit of CIA money on the side. ;-)

Back about 15 years ago, there was some strange close-in QRM to some of
the stronger BBC signals in the 6 MHz band. In this case it was RTTY,
and even stranger the signal went away when I bitched about it on the
shortwave alt.*? group we used back then.

I always wondered if putting your spy communications close to a widely
received broadcast would be good cover. They couldn't take the spy out
and shoot them for just listening to the Beeb.

If it is the Beeb then it is probably the Morse signal "V" (...-) (V for
Victory) played on a Timpani. Still used as far as I know for some language
services but not heard all that often.

dxAce
Michigan
USA