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ve3... March 9th 06 05:14 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site. This would
be an unfortunate last step as many of the group have eclectic
backgrounds and their post, although off topic, make for interesting
reading. I think that those OT posts that involve propaganda and
tedious arguments of insidious intent should be discouraged. The best
way to do this is not to answer them in any way. Psychological theory
states that a message that is never responded to will not continue.
Sniping at them, no matter how clever, only rewards the message and
leads to more of the same. I am beginning to think that some of the
authors of these OT post are paid by some agency as part of some
disinformation sceme: otherwise why don't they ply their trade on the
political science or economics sites where they can meet the heavy
hitters? Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?


Verstaldin March 9th 06 05:38 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Ignoring them can also encourage them to dig in and be really aggravating :)
What would Dr. PHIL do LOL.

All life all holiness come from you O Lord

"ve3..." wrote in message
oups.com...
The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site. This would
be an unfortunate last step as many of the group have eclectic
backgrounds and their post, although off topic, make for interesting
reading. I think that those OT posts that involve propaganda and
tedious arguments of insidious intent should be discouraged. The best
way to do this is not to answer them in any way. Psychological theory
states that a message that is never responded to will not continue.
Sniping at them, no matter how clever, only rewards the message and
leads to more of the same. I am beginning to think that some of the
authors of these OT post are paid by some agency as part of some
disinformation sceme: otherwise why don't they ply their trade on the
political science or economics sites where they can meet the heavy
hitters? Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?




David March 9th 06 06:35 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On 9 Mar 2006 09:14:27 -0800, "ve3..." wrote:

The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site. This would
be an unfortunate last step as many of the group have eclectic
backgrounds and their post, although off topic, make for interesting
reading. I think that those OT posts that involve propaganda and
tedious arguments of insidious intent should be discouraged. The best
way to do this is not to answer them in any way. Psychological theory
states that a message that is never responded to will not continue.
Sniping at them, no matter how clever, only rewards the message and
leads to more of the same. I am beginning to think that some of the
authors of these OT post are paid by some agency as part of some
disinformation sceme: otherwise why don't they ply their trade on the
political science or economics sites where they can meet the heavy
hitters? Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?

We're at war!


dxAce March 9th 06 06:56 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 


David wrote:

On 9 Mar 2006 09:14:27 -0800, "ve3..." wrote:

The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site. This would
be an unfortunate last step as many of the group have eclectic
backgrounds and their post, although off topic, make for interesting
reading. I think that those OT posts that involve propaganda and
tedious arguments of insidious intent should be discouraged. The best
way to do this is not to answer them in any way. Psychological theory
states that a message that is never responded to will not continue.
Sniping at them, no matter how clever, only rewards the message and
leads to more of the same. I am beginning to think that some of the
authors of these OT post are paid by some agency as part of some
disinformation sceme: otherwise why don't they ply their trade on the
political science or economics sites where they can meet the heavy
hitters? Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?

We're at war!


Rickets, you wouldn't know a war if it crawled up your mentally ill, drug
addled ass and decided to spend the winter.

In other words, you're a delusional, jaw flapping 'tard boy, who'd run to mommy
the first time the 'war' came anywhere near you, because chances are,
you'd be one of the first casualties (i.e. you're a useful idiot).

dxAce
Michigan
USA



John S. March 9th 06 07:00 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?"

Wow...you see conspiracies everywhere....
The world must be kinda dark and scary to you.


MnMikew March 9th 06 07:35 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"ve3..." wrote in message
oups.com...
The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site.


There's plenty of them, go find one.



[email protected] March 9th 06 09:23 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Faith Hill,Tim McGraw Blast 'Katrina' Cleanup. www.drudgereport.com

You just got to love those people.
cuhulin


David March 9th 06 10:16 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:23:06 -0600, wrote:

Faith Hill,Tim McGraw Blast 'Katrina' Cleanup.
www.drudgereport.com

You just got to love those people.
cuhulin

Unhinged Left Wing moonbats...


Telamon March 9th 06 10:24 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
In article .com,
"ve3..." wrote:

The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the
point that some members are contemplating a moderated site. This would
be an unfortunate last step as many of the group have eclectic
backgrounds and their post, although off topic, make for interesting
reading. I think that those OT posts that involve propaganda and
tedious arguments of insidious intent should be discouraged. The best
way to do this is not to answer them in any way. Psychological theory
states that a message that is never responded to will not continue.
Sniping at them, no matter how clever, only rewards the message and
leads to more of the same. I am beginning to think that some of the
authors of these OT post are paid by some agency as part of some
disinformation sceme: otherwise why don't they ply their trade on the
political science or economics sites where they can meet the heavy
hitters? Has anyone noticed similar text on other websites that would
indicate an agitprop operation?


If everyone ignored the nut jobs it would not matter if they kept
posting here or stopped at some point. The nut jobs are not the problem.
The problem is people responding to the nut jobs.

Kill filing is the passive approach, which would be a complete solution
if not for people responding to them.

Complaining about them to their provider to get their accounts
terminated is the aggressive approach.

I would take the aggressive approach but the people that like to torment
the nut jobs would complain that I took away their fun so I stick with
the passive approach.

I found a way to fine tune the kill file so I generally don't see the
Troll OR responses to the Troll. If I toggle the filter off and respond
to the Troll myself my own response along with anyone else will be
killed when I toggle the filter back on. Works great for cleaning up the
news group posts. 99% of the crap is automatically deleted. Only takes a
few seconds to generate a filter for a new Troll. Then just re-filter
the days posts so you only have to see them once and the rest of the
crap goes away.

Get a good news reader with flexible filters and you will be in good
shape despite the nonsense in the news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

MnMikew March 9th 06 10:24 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:23:06 -0600, wrote:

Faith Hill,Tim McGraw Blast 'Katrina' Cleanup.
www.drudgereport.com

You just got to love those people.
cuhulin

Unhinged Left Wing moonbats...

Typical hollyweirdos. Figgures Coolio would like em.



Brian March 9th 06 11:11 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
If everyone ignored the nut jobs it would not matter if they kept
posting here or stopped at some point. The nut jobs are not the problem.
The problem is people responding to the nut jobs.

Kill filing is the passive approach, which would be a complete solution
if not for people responding to them.

Complaining about them to their provider to get their accounts
terminated is the aggressive approach.

I would take the aggressive approach but the people that like to torment
the nut jobs would complain that I took away their fun so I stick with
the passive approach.

I found a way to fine tune the kill file so I generally don't see the
Troll OR responses to the Troll. If I toggle the filter off and respond
to the Troll myself my own response along with anyone else will be
killed when I toggle the filter back on. Works great for cleaning up the
news group posts. 99% of the crap is automatically deleted. Only takes a
few seconds to generate a filter for a new Troll. Then just re-filter
the days posts so you only have to see them once and the rest of the
crap goes away.

Get a good news reader with flexible filters and you will be in good
shape despite the nonsense in the news group.


Telamon, I'm curious, what news client do you use? I've not figured out how
to configure Outlook Express to filter responses to those in my killfile;
perhaps it can't be done.

-Brian



David March 9th 06 11:24 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:24:20 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:23:06 -0600, wrote:

Faith Hill,Tim McGraw Blast 'Katrina' Cleanup.
www.drudgereport.com

You just got to love those people.
cuhulin

Unhinged Left Wing moonbats...

Typical hollyweirdos. Figgures Coolio would like em.


Hollyweirdos? I though they was Country...


Telamon March 9th 06 11:37 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
In article . net,
"Brian" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
If everyone ignored the nut jobs it would not matter if they kept
posting here or stopped at some point. The nut jobs are not the problem.
The problem is people responding to the nut jobs.

Kill filing is the passive approach, which would be a complete solution
if not for people responding to them.

Complaining about them to their provider to get their accounts
terminated is the aggressive approach.

I would take the aggressive approach but the people that like to torment
the nut jobs would complain that I took away their fun so I stick with
the passive approach.

I found a way to fine tune the kill file so I generally don't see the
Troll OR responses to the Troll. If I toggle the filter off and respond
to the Troll myself my own response along with anyone else will be
killed when I toggle the filter back on. Works great for cleaning up the
news group posts. 99% of the crap is automatically deleted. Only takes a
few seconds to generate a filter for a new Troll. Then just re-filter
the days posts so you only have to see them once and the rest of the
crap goes away.

Get a good news reader with flexible filters and you will be in good
shape despite the nonsense in the news group.


Telamon, I'm curious, what news client do you use? I've not figured out how
to configure Outlook Express to filter responses to those in my killfile;
perhaps it can't be done.


You need to use a dedicated news reader. I don't know how to use Outlook
Express for reading news. I just use it for mail. The Mac version of
Outlook is called Entourage on the Mac.

If I turn on the header information it shows the line below on one of my
posts.

User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.4 (PPC Mac OS X)

On your post it's

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

Well I use a Mac as you can tell from the header information and my news
reader is MT-NewsWatcher.

There has to be many free news readers for PC's. Don't use a mail
program for Usenet.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Brian March 9th 06 11:46 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Telamon, I'm curious, what news client do you use? I've not figured out
how
to configure Outlook Express to filter responses to those in my killfile;
perhaps it can't be done.


You need to use a dedicated news reader. I don't know how to use Outlook
Express for reading news. I just use it for mail. The Mac version of
Outlook is called Entourage on the Mac.

If I turn on the header information it shows the line below on one of my
posts.

User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.4 (PPC Mac OS X)

On your post it's

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

Well I use a Mac as you can tell from the header information and my news
reader is MT-NewsWatcher.

There has to be many free news readers for PC's. Don't use a mail
program for Usenet.


Thanks, I'll check it out. Probably should have just googled it first, but I
was feeling unusually lazy. I actually just picked up a Mac this past
weekend; this is my first experience with that os.

-Brian



m II March 10th 06 04:32 AM

Discouraging Tedious dxFMLAO Postings
 
dxFMLAO wrote:

Rickets, you wouldn't know a war if it crawled up your mentally ill, drug
addled ass and decided to spend the winter.



I understand that an original idea did just that to your anus. You still
don't even know it's there. Give it time, it's only been eight winters.






mike

weatherall March 10th 06 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ve3...
The number and length of some OT postings seem to be increasing to the point that some members are contemplating a moderated site.

If you're willing to use a web interface, go to http://www.radiobanter.com/ .

Koikus March 10th 06 05:22 AM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
VE3, I have to agree with you almost 100%....although I do see the
points of some of the others on this subject. Ignore the ramblings and
it's no more fun for the instigators or however ya spell that word. You
are right about the pysch theory in most cases...not all, but the
majority I'm willing to bet.


MnMikew March 10th 06 03:40 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:24:20 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:23:06 -0600, wrote:

Faith Hill,Tim McGraw Blast 'Katrina' Cleanup.
www.drudgereport.com

You just got to love those people.
cuhulin

Unhinged Left Wing moonbats...

Typical hollyweirdos. Figgures Coolio would like em.


Hollyweirdos? I though they was Country...

They used to be,.



David March 10th 06 04:06 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:40:27 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:



They used to be,.


Who runs Hollywood?

General Electric?

Rupert Murdoch?


Steve March 10th 06 04:08 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
LOL!

"We're at war!! Quick, let's get to rec.radio.shortwave!!"


MnMikew March 10th 06 04:10 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:40:27 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:



They used to be,.


Who runs Hollywood?

General Electric?

Rupert Murdoch?

George Clooney.



Steve March 10th 06 04:12 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
I would support the creation of a moderated site. It'd be nice to have
a place to go where postings are reliably on topic, and the political
"discussions" on rrs are rarely substantive anyway. I say go for it.

Steve


Steve March 10th 06 04:13 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Pee Wee Herman


[email protected] March 10th 06 05:29 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
What does Wahr (Sam Nunn,Wahr) have to do with Shortwave Radios and
vicer versa? y'all just know Radios dont have anything to do with Wahr.
cuhulin


David March 10th 06 07:57 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:10:10 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:40:27 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:



They used to be,.


Who runs Hollywood?

General Electric?

Rupert Murdoch?

George Clooney.

Viacom?

Disney?


MnMikew March 10th 06 08:06 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:10:10 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:40:27 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:



They used to be,.


Who runs Hollywood?

General Electric?

Rupert Murdoch?

George Clooney.

Viacom?

Disney?

Barbra Striesand.



David March 10th 06 08:25 PM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:06:54 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:10:10 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:40:27 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:



They used to be,.


Who runs Hollywood?

General Electric?

Rupert Murdoch?

George Clooney.

Viacom?

Disney?

Barbra Striesand.


Streisand is a hack. ''Hollywood'' is a 100% capitalist enterprise
run by right-wing multinationals. They make money by giving audiences
what they demand. Their only agenda is profits.


junius March 11th 06 03:42 AM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Given the sheer idiocy of some 99.9 % of the off-topic posts, it seems
that whatever war might be raging is that between the poster and
whatever remnant of dignity that poster may still possess. All too
many seem completely hell-bent on proving to the world what utter
morons they are.


Radio TexMex wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:08:07 -0800, Steve wrote:

LOL!

"We're at war!! Quick, let's get to rec.radio.shortwave!!"


OMFG LOL!!! Hehe, my thought exactly.

- Matt



Telamon March 11th 06 03:43 AM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
In article . net,
"Brian" wrote:

Telamon, I'm curious, what news client do you use? I've not figured out
how
to configure Outlook Express to filter responses to those in my killfile;
perhaps it can't be done.


You need to use a dedicated news reader. I don't know how to use Outlook
Express for reading news. I just use it for mail. The Mac version of
Outlook is called Entourage on the Mac.

If I turn on the header information it shows the line below on one of my
posts.

User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.4 (PPC Mac OS X)

On your post it's

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180

Well I use a Mac as you can tell from the header information and my news
reader is MT-NewsWatcher.

There has to be many free news readers for PC's. Don't use a mail
program for Usenet.


Thanks, I'll check it out. Probably should have just googled it first, but I
was feeling unusually lazy. I actually just picked up a Mac this past
weekend; this is my first experience with that os.


MT-NewsWatcher is free and I highly recommend it.
http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

m II March 11th 06 08:55 AM

(OT) : M II - Inquiring Minds Want To Know . . .
 
RHF wrote:

M II - What is the basis for 'your' claim to know the
Ins-and-Outs of DX Ace's Anus for the last 8-Winters ?



He's been known to 'spill the beans' once in a while. What a mess.



(and a really gross, disgusting posting too...sorry)


mike

m II March 11th 06 08:58 AM

Discouraging Tedious OT Postings
 
Steve wrote:

Pee Wee Herman


He seems capable of running Hollywood. His morals certainly qualify him.

http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/pee-wee-herman.html





mike


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