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Steve March 11th 06 05:42 AM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


[email protected] March 11th 06 06:06 AM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


Interesting. The data sheet refers to the 'base loading assembly'
which does not surprise me - was almost thinking of it like a 10 - 12
meter 5/8 wave except it has no radials. I think I'll let somebody
else try it and read their comments on it's performance; for some
reason it reminds me of the adage "if something seems to good to be
true......."

[email protected] March 11th 06 06:15 AM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
And it comes with a U bolt too.For three times that money you can buy a
Wellbrook Antenna which I think would be a much better buy.
cuhulin


Telamon March 11th 06 06:18 AM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
In article .com,
"Steve" wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


Sounds pricey for a 6 foot vertical whip antenna. You could get a CB
vertical whip for a lot less I think.

Here is your mobile CB 102 inch long steel whip (8.5 foot) for $20 plus
$2 for shipping and handling.
http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=41

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David March 11th 06 02:33 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


dxAce March 11th 06 02:38 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 


David wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


Why don't you read the spec sheet and find out?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Bob Miller March 11th 06 02:40 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


vertically polarized, so it will pick up more man made noise than a
horizontally polarized antenna, in spite of the ad copy's
protestation.

bob
k5qwg

Bob Miller March 11th 06 02:42 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:33:43 GMT, David wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


Another way of saying it's not an amplified, "active" antenna.

bob
k5qwg

David March 11th 06 03:38 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:38:53 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


Why don't you read the spec sheet and find out?

I did, ****wad.


David March 11th 06 03:39 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:42:48 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:33:43 GMT, David wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


Another way of saying it's not an amplified, "active" antenna.

Thanks, Mister Wizard.

I already knew that. Why would anyone pay $110 for a 6 foot passive
antenna?

better?



dxAce March 11th 06 03:45 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 


David wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:38:53 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html

Passive?


Why don't you read the spec sheet and find out?

I did, ****wad.


That's Mr. ****wad, junkie.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Steve March 11th 06 05:18 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Don't be so cranky! It's not his fault your a Junky with Hepatitis C
virus slowly gnawing away at your liver.


Dale Parfitt March 11th 06 05:21 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On 10 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


vertically polarized, so it will pick up more man made noise than a
horizontally polarized antenna, in spite of the ad copy's
protestation.

bob
k5qwg


And even worse, without a ground, the outer shield becomes part of the
antenna allowing noise p/u from inside the home, negating the advantage of
an outdoor mounting.

Dale W4OP



David March 11th 06 05:30 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 09:18:15 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Don't be so cranky! It's not his fault your a Junky with Hepatitis C
virus slowly gnawing away at your liver.

Not a junkie.

Got no virus.

Liver 100% A-OK.


Steve March 11th 06 06:21 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Uh huh...

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I smoked one little crumb of the good **** every night throughout my
treatment. Undetectable at 24 weeks and for 2 years since.

I told my doctor I was going to do this and she just rolled her eyes
and said nothing.

A positive attitude and GQOL are essential to succesful treatment.

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David March 11th 06 06:52 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 10:21:16 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Uh huh...

I fail to see how my ancient history has any relevance to anything. I
was helping people in crisis and now you are attempting to use that
against me.

People like you are the reason the United States is crashing and
burning in big balls of orange fire. You have lost your human core
and are nothing more than a remote-controlled Zomby.


dxAce March 11th 06 07:07 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 


David wrote:

On 11 Mar 2006 10:21:16 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Uh huh...

I fail to see how my ancient history has any relevance to anything.


As much relevance as your incessant OT posts, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Steve March 11th 06 07:08 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
If you don't like it, you're free to go elsewhere so that we can resume
discussion of SW.

Junky punk.


David March 11th 06 07:30 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 11:08:46 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

If you don't like it, you're free to go elsewhere so that we can resume
discussion of SW.

Junky punk.

You attempt to hassle me when I discuss shortwave as well. Your
Pavlovian technique is a lackin'.


Steve March 11th 06 07:33 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
That's because I know the shortwave posting is the exception rather
than the rule. I wouldn't care if you made the occasional off-topic
post, but you post so much crap to this group that it's virtually
unreadable. That ain't right. You can get your 'viewpoint' across
without undermining the overall shortwave-related purpose of the group.


David March 11th 06 08:04 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 11:33:47 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

That's because I know the shortwave posting is the exception rather
than the rule. I wouldn't care if you made the occasional off-topic
post, but you post so much crap to this group that it's virtually
unreadable. That ain't right. You can get your 'viewpoint' across
without undermining the overall shortwave-related purpose of the group.

Why don't you attack RHF, Peeing Eye Dog?


Steve March 11th 06 08:10 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
If RHFposts off-topic, it's usually in a thread that someone else (most
likely you) started.

I do wish that Peeing Eye Dog would make fewer off-topic posts, but he
makes fewer than you and there are only 24 hours in my day.


David March 11th 06 09:06 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 12:10:49 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

If RHFposts off-topic, it's usually in a thread that someone else (most
likely you) started.

I do wish that Peeing Eye Dog would make fewer off-topic posts, but he
makes fewer than you and there are only 24 hours in my day.

So many worlds to save, so little time...


Steve March 11th 06 09:36 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Pretty much, but I can save quite a few of them, since I'm not a heroin
addict.


David March 11th 06 09:56 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
On 11 Mar 2006 13:36:17 -0800, "Steve"
wrote:

Pretty much, but I can save quite a few of them, since I'm not a heroin
addict.

Are you sure? You seem hung-up, just the same.


Steve March 11th 06 10:43 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Don't worry. It won't seem that way tomorrow, after you've crashed.


junius March 13th 06 04:26 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
Could someone explain this to me: From what I've seen with mobile
passive whips, even of the longer variety, the issue of resonance seems
always to be a limiting factor in band applicability.

What makes this whip suitable for such a vast frequency range (30 kHz
to 30 MHz)? Some coil or another?

How would it be any more suitable for SW than, say, the 12 foot whip
that MFJ offers?

junius

Steve wrote:
Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html



Telamon March 13th 06 09:19 PM

New vertical antenna coming to Universal
 
In article .com,
"junius" wrote:

Could someone explain this to me: From what I've seen with mobile
passive whips, even of the longer variety, the issue of resonance seems
always to be a limiting factor in band applicability.

What makes this whip suitable for such a vast frequency range (30 kHz
to 30 MHz)? Some coil or another?

How would it be any more suitable for SW than, say, the 12 foot whip
that MFJ offers?

junius

Steve wrote:
Check it out:

http://www.rffun.com/catalog/sw_ant/0981.html


When the antenna is at resonance it will pick up more energy from a
passing EM wave than when it is not at resonance at a receive condition.

On transmit it will not radiate as well either but worse is the fact
that the transmit energy reflects back at the transmitter and the finals
have to dissipate the extra energy.

For receive efficiency you want the antenna to be full size or larger
for the frequency of operation.

Whip antennas need a counterpoise to work well. For a car mounted whip
the ground return is the car body. For a roof mount its horizontal
radials. For a portable it is the circuitry in the box and maybe you
holding it.

I expect a CB base antenna would work better than this unit. A CB base
antenna would cost a lot less. You could do even better just hanging up
a horizontal wire.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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