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Bob Miller April 19th 06 05:15 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:09:15 GMT, Monroe wrote:

Looking to upgrade from a Panasonic RF-3100. Just got off of an
"exiciting" ebay excursion for an older Kenwood R-5000 and have been
considering a R-75 w/ DSP from Universal. Something that has always
been gnawing at me was the use of an HF transceiver for shortwaver
reception. There is routinely a large inventory of used HF receivers
available about my area; mostly HF nets/clubs and the like. Actual
HF/shortwave/comm's receivers are hard to come by here.

Are any of these used receivers notable in performance/feature set for
shortwave reception?

thanks


HF transceivers work fine for shortwave reception, and the older ones
typically may be just as cheap or cheaper than similar
receiver-only's. They do lack the sync detector, if that is important
to you. Also, make sure they have an AM filter of 6 khz or more for AM
listening -- a 2 or 3 khz SSB filter isn't wide enough for decent AM
sound fidelity.

Otherwise, for tabletop receivers, the Japan Radio Company models are
pretty damned good; I have a 525 that's held up well and has a good
feature set (altho' it lacks the sync detector).

If you can locate it, the book "More Radio Receiver -- Chance or
Choice" by Rainer Lichte, or his earlier book, "Radio Receiver --
Chance or Choice" are excellent references about receivers sold during
the last 40 years or so.

bob
k5qwg

craigm April 19th 06 06:08 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
Bob Miller wrote:


HF transceivers work fine for shortwave reception, and the older ones
typically may be just as cheap or cheaper than similar
receiver-only's. They do lack the sync detector, if that is important
to you. Also, make sure they have an AM filter of 6 khz or more for AM
listening -- a 2 or 3 khz SSB filter isn't wide enough for decent AM
sound fidelity.

Otherwise, for tabletop receivers, the Japan Radio Company models are
pretty damned good; I have a 525 that's held up well and has a good
feature set (altho' it lacks the sync detector).


While it may not have a sync detector, the AM detector is a correct
implementation of ECSS. (No, I'm not talking about using SSB mode.)

craigm


If you can locate it, the book "More Radio Receiver -- Chance or
Choice" by Rainer Lichte, or his earlier book, "Radio Receiver --
Chance or Choice" are excellent references about receivers sold during
the last 40 years or so.

bob
k5qwg



Bob Miller April 19th 06 06:49 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:08:43 -0500, craigm
wrote:

Bob Miller wrote:


HF transceivers work fine for shortwave reception, and the older ones
typically may be just as cheap or cheaper than similar
receiver-only's. They do lack the sync detector, if that is important
to you. Also, make sure they have an AM filter of 6 khz or more for AM
listening -- a 2 or 3 khz SSB filter isn't wide enough for decent AM
sound fidelity.

Otherwise, for tabletop receivers, the Japan Radio Company models are
pretty damned good; I have a 525 that's held up well and has a good
feature set (altho' it lacks the sync detector).


While it may not have a sync detector, the AM detector is a correct
implementation of ECSS. (No, I'm not talking about using SSB mode.)

craigm


One of my few complaints about the 525 receiver is distant AM signals
fade in and out, and I understand a sync detector will alleviate that.
bob


If you can locate it, the book "More Radio Receiver -- Chance or
Choice" by Rainer Lichte, or his earlier book, "Radio Receiver --
Chance or Choice" are excellent references about receivers sold during
the last 40 years or so.

bob
k5qwg


junius April 20th 06 01:52 AM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 

Monroe wrote:
My thanks to all for your comments. The HF transceiver path looked
better and better (not so much for AM Rx as DX seeking). In the
pursuit of this, a notice passed my way of someone selling a NRD-525
in excellent condition. Discussed this with the seller (an active
comm's hobbiest) and this led to my purchase of the unit. Look
forward to this long overdue, major upgrade.


Good choice. And I'm sure you'll find it a significant upgrade from
your Panasonic RF-3100. If you're looking to chase the weak DX, then a
JRC receiver is hard to beat.

junius


Jim Hackett April 20th 06 03:20 AM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
I am VERY pleased with my 525. It is the flagship of my collection...



"junius" wrote in message
ups.com...

Monroe wrote:
My thanks to all for your comments. The HF transceiver path looked
better and better (not so much for AM Rx as DX seeking). In the
pursuit of this, a notice passed my way of someone selling a NRD-525
in excellent condition. Discussed this with the seller (an active
comm's hobbiest) and this led to my purchase of the unit. Look
forward to this long overdue, major upgrade.


Good choice. And I'm sure you'll find it a significant upgrade from
your Panasonic RF-3100. If you're looking to chase the weak DX, then a
JRC receiver is hard to beat.

junius




Bob Miller April 20th 06 03:26 AM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:37:19 GMT, Monroe wrote:

My thanks to all for your comments. The HF transceiver path looked
better and better (not so much for AM Rx as DX seeking). In the
pursuit of this, a notice passed my way of someone selling a NRD-525
in excellent condition. Discussed this with the seller (an active
comm's hobbiest) and this led to my purchase of the unit. Look
forward to this long overdue, major upgrade.


Put up a good antenna and you'll be all set. The 525 takes either a
high impedance wire or a 50 ohm coax feed; actually, you can attach
both and switch between the two. Good dx-ing...

bob
k5qwg



On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:15:16 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:09:15 GMT, Monroe wrote:

Looking to upgrade from a Panasonic RF-3100. Just got off of an
"exiciting" ebay excursion for an older Kenwood R-5000 and have been
considering a R-75 w/ DSP from Universal. Something that has always
been gnawing at me was the use of an HF transceiver for shortwaver
reception. There is routinely a large inventory of used HF receivers
available about my area; mostly HF nets/clubs and the like. Actual
HF/shortwave/comm's receivers are hard to come by here.

Are any of these used receivers notable in performance/feature set for
shortwave reception?

thanks


HF transceivers work fine for shortwave reception, and the older ones
typically may be just as cheap or cheaper than similar
receiver-only's. They do lack the sync detector, if that is important
to you. Also, make sure they have an AM filter of 6 khz or more for AM
listening -- a 2 or 3 khz SSB filter isn't wide enough for decent AM
sound fidelity.

Otherwise, for tabletop receivers, the Japan Radio Company models are
pretty damned good; I have a 525 that's held up well and has a good
feature set (altho' it lacks the sync detector).

If you can locate it, the book "More Radio Receiver -- Chance or
Choice" by Rainer Lichte, or his earlier book, "Radio Receiver --
Chance or Choice" are excellent references about receivers sold during
the last 40 years or so.

bob
k5qwg


Telamon April 20th 06 05:30 AM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
In article ,
Monroe wrote:

My thanks to all for your comments. The HF transceiver path looked
better and better (not so much for AM Rx as DX seeking). In the
pursuit of this, a notice passed my way of someone selling a NRD-525
in excellent condition. Discussed this with the seller (an active
comm's hobbiest) and this led to my purchase of the unit. Look
forward to this long overdue, major upgrade.


Snip

Congratulations on the purchase. Let us know how you like NRD-525 and
what stations you pick up on it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF April 20th 06 08:53 AM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
For One and All,

Any truth to the claim that the NRD-525
is a very good AM/MW DX Radio ?

iwtk ~ RHF

David April 20th 06 02:06 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
On 20 Apr 2006 00:53:29 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

For One and All,

Any truth to the claim that the NRD-525
is a very good AM/MW DX Radio ?

iwtk ~ RHF
.

I understand the stock audio is muffled somewhat.


junius April 20th 06 02:31 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 

David wrote:
On 20 Apr 2006 00:53:29 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

For One and All,

Any truth to the claim that the NRD-525
is a very good AM/MW DX Radio ?

iwtk ~ RHF
.

I understand the stock audio is muffled somewhat.


For those interested, Kiwa offers an audio upgrade for the NRD-525:

http://www.kiwa.com/NRD525.html


Bob Miller April 20th 06 02:49 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:06:46 GMT, David wrote:

On 20 Apr 2006 00:53:29 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

For One and All,

Any truth to the claim that the NRD-525
is a very good AM/MW DX Radio ?

iwtk ~ RHF
.

I understand the stock audio is muffled somewhat.


The 525 audio supposedly has a little distortion, although it's never
bothered me.

The 525's stock filters are set at 6 khz and 3 khz. You can also
bypass the filters with the AUX switch, which gives about a 12 khz
bandwidth, and full-bodied audio for AM stations.

bob
k5qwg

[email protected] April 20th 06 04:06 PM

Receiver Upgrade Query
 
See if you can pick up Vietnam on your Shortwave Radio.Their music is
cool.I used to tote a shirtpocket AM transistor and listen to some
Vietnamese music in 1964 when I was in Vietnam.Or,you might find some
Vietnamese music on internet radio. www.radio-locator.com There is
a radio station (Cymru'r Byd) in Wales (Cardiff or Swansea) I sometimes
listen to.They play some nice music on the radio.I think from midnight
to about 6:00 AM or 7:00 AM their time zone,they are off the air.
cuhulin


Reloader April 20th 06 04:44 PM

I have been using my Yaesu FT-840 for over 7 years for SWL listening. I have added the 6 khz filter and also use it with an old Info-Tech 600 demodulator for SELCAL and RTTY. works great.













Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Miller
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:09:15 GMT, Monroe wrote:

Looking to upgrade from a Panasonic RF-3100. Just got off of an
"exiciting" ebay excursion for an older Kenwood R-5000 and have been
considering a R-75 w/ DSP from Universal. Something that has always
been gnawing at me was the use of an HF transceiver for shortwaver
reception. There is routinely a large inventory of used HF receivers
available about my area; mostly HF nets/clubs and the like. Actual
HF/shortwave/comm's receivers are hard to come by here.

Are any of these used receivers notable in performance/feature set for
shortwave reception?

thanks


HF transceivers work fine for shortwave reception, and the older ones
typically may be just as cheap or cheaper than similar
receiver-only's. They do lack the sync detector, if that is important
to you. Also, make sure they have an AM filter of 6 khz or more for AM
listening -- a 2 or 3 khz SSB filter isn't wide enough for decent AM
sound fidelity.

Otherwise, for tabletop receivers, the Japan Radio Company models are
pretty damned good; I have a 525 that's held up well and has a good
feature set (altho' it lacks the sync detector).

If you can locate it, the book "More Radio Receiver -- Chance or
Choice" by Rainer Lichte, or his earlier book, "Radio Receiver --
Chance or Choice" are excellent references about receivers sold during
the last 40 years or so.

bob
k5qwg



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