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For One and All,
Up for your consideration is the simple fact that up until now the USA and "The World as a whole has had a uniform general Standard of {Common Reality} of an Analog AM/MW Radio Band; an FM Radio Band and Shortwave Radio Bands. This allowed a World-Wide-Commonality at least in some Radio/Receiver Circuitry. Does the Digital Radio Future Offer the same opportunity for a World-Wide-Commonality in some Radio/Receiver Circuitry. WHAT ABOUT - AM / FM DIGITAL RADIO ? Will the be a unique Digital Radio Design for AM/FM Radios built for sale in the USA ? And a completely different Digital Radio Design for AM/FM Radios built for sale in The-Rest-of-the-World ? Will Digital AM/FM Radios sold in Mexico and Canada be using the USA Digital Strandards or the Univeral Standard of The-Rest- of-the-World ? Will Americans have to have a Second Radio to Listen to Digital Radio Transmissions from The-Rest-of-the-World including Mexico and Canada ? What is the Canadian AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? What is the Mexican AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? What is the European AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? - - - Who Will Africa Follow ? What is the Japanese & Korean AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? - - - What Will The Rest of Asia Do ? What will become of the standard 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio ? WHAT ABOUT - DIGITAL RADIO MONDIALE (DRM) ? ? ? With Respect To - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) will the next generation of built for sale in the USA AM/FM Shortwave Radios have DRM as part of their built-in Circuitry ? About - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) DRM = http://www.drm.org/. Or in the future, will their be a new breed of Stand-Along Shortwave Radio/Receivers that are "Shortwave Only" with built-in DRM Circuitry ? About - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) DRM = http://www.drm.org/. GOING DIGITAL - Seems to be many paths headed-off in many National {USA} or Regional {Europe} directions where the World Wide Radio Listener is that last consideration [.] I Have Questions ! - Do You Have Any Answers ? ~ RHF |
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Early domestic-market Western European FM radios would cover 88 - 100.
Then the band was stretched to 104 in the 60s. In the late 1970s/ early 1980s, the band was stretched out to its current 108 MHz. True export models would cover the entire FM band 88-108. Any radio that only covered the 88-100 or 88-104 bands seen in the Americas were brought over by immigrants. Domestic Japanese-market radios cover the FM band from 76 to 91. I should know, I have a couple Japanese-market FM radios. The band between 91 and 108 is used for VHF TV audio channels 1, 2 and 3. Eastern-European/Russian FM radios cover the 66-74 megahertz band. That would be what we use for TV audio for Channel 2, 3 and 4. Using a Japanese radio, you can pick up USA TV audio channels 5 and 6. -- Steph |
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"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message oups.com... Early domestic-market Western European FM radios would cover 88 - 100. Then the band was stretched to 104 in the 60s. In the late 1970s/ early 1980s, the band was stretched out to its current 108 MHz. True export models would cover the entire FM band 88-108. Any radio that only covered the 88-100 or 88-104 bands seen in the Americas were brought over by immigrants. The European radios in Ecuador, which were the majority in 1966, were known brands like Telefunken and Grundig. Since there were no FM stations, there were only about 16, 000 of them then. Almost all were 88 to 100 MHz, including theone in my home. Most were consoles, with a record changer and all... in a credenza sized piece of furniture that, then, cost about $500 or more. Domestic Japanese-market radios cover the FM band from 76 to 91. I should know, I have a couple Japanese-market FM radios. The band between 91 and 108 is used for VHF TV audio channels 1, 2 and 3. The export ones in LAtin America must have been ones intended for other markets, as they were 76 to 100. Not many of them, though. Eastern-European/Russian FM radios cover the 66-74 megahertz band. That would be what we use for TV audio for Channel 2, 3 and 4. Never saw one of these, although the Czechs often tried to sell me transmitters full of Svetlanas. Using a Japanese radio, you can pick up USA TV audio channels 5 and 6. A friend did some consulting for J-Wave, an FM in Tokyo. They gave him a radio. It tunes the non-com band nicely, of course. |
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RHF wrote: For One and All, I really only care about AM DXing; from what I have read about IBOC digital radio, is that the digital part is transmitted as both sidebands, so it really does affect the analog transmission, except for adjacent channel interference, because there is more energy put into the sidebands. I believe, that digital transmissions do not carry, as far as analog, so in the case of a pure digital receiver, it will still pick up the analog transmissions, once the digital sidebands fade. We should be able to use our analog receivers, even though stations are transmitting in digital, as many of them already are, for example, 700 WLW. |
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David Eduardo wrote:
The European radios in Ecuador, which were the majority in 1966, were known brands like Telefunken and Grundig. Since there were no FM stations, there were only about 16, 000 of them then. Almost all were 88 to 100 MHz, including theone in my home. Most were consoles, with a record changer and all... in a credenza sized piece of furniture that, then, cost about $500 or more. Most of the few vintage FM radios I saw in Colombia were all 88-108. But those were mostly all transistorized. All the tube radios I saw there were MW/SW only. I brought back two, a huge Grundig and a smaller Philco-Tropic made in the UK. My grandmother has her 1940s Philips MW/SW set. As you said, German and Dutch brands ruled. The export ones in LAtin America must have been ones intended for other markets, as they were 76 to 100. Not many of them, though. I remember seeing a couple Japanaese AM/FMs in a pawn shop. They were 88-108, but these were from the 1970s. Wayy too beat-up and battered for my taste, so I didn't get them. But then Ecuador and Colombia are two very different animals. I'm pretty sure that Colombia got into the FM game much earlier than Ecuador - at least in the major cities like Bogota (now-departed HJCK, for instance). Most Japanese analog-tuned portables cover 76-108 anyway, so that their owners can take the radios outside the country and have them work. In Japan they're marketed as FM/TV. It's a different ball game with the digital units and home/car stereos, though. Once again, this is just from the ones I've seen and played with. Here is an old Polish FM radio (not mine, unfortunately): http://www.astercity.net/~janekr/1.jpg A friend did some consulting for J-Wave, an FM in Tokyo. They gave him a radio. It tunes the non-com band nicely, of course. Oh yeah, that's about the only FM radio you can pick up with them. Here's an OLD Sanyo add-on tuner made for the Japanese market: http://radiomann.hp.infoseek.co.jp/H...-sanyoSFT1.JPG and an old Pioneer table-top radio (FM only, and the dial knob is missing) http://radiomann.hp.infoseek.co.jp/H...F6-Pioniaf.JPG Hope he still has it. Foreign-market electronics can be a cool thing, well....if you're a nut-case like me and collect radios.... but that's a whole different story. :) -- Steph |
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DX Ace - You forgot to say :
Thus Sayest I - The DX Ace ! :o) ~ RHF |
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DE,
But now imagine in 2006 doing the same thing - Impossible ! With each of these made-for the Japanese, German and American Radio Market radios had a different Digital Audio Broadcast (DAB) Standard ! ! ! Do you now Broadcast (Transmit) in each of the Multi-Standards so that all Radios will work ? ? ? -Or- Do you Broadcast (Transmit) using one standard and miss some of your potential Listeners who have Radios that can not receive your type of Digital Signal. For Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB) to work World Wide there needs to be a 'uniform' World Wide Standard for all Transmitters and Receivers. Unless the intent is to Nationalize and Regionalize Radio Listening and therefore Eliminate International {Trans-Regional} Radio Listening. As bad as Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) may be . . . At least it is a World Wide Standard and may be in time technology will evolve that will enable the reduction of out-of-channel digital artifacts. Why Is . . . Digital Radio needed below 30 MHz ? WHY DRM = http://www.drm.org/system/whydigital.php DRM TECH = http://www.drm.org/system/technicalaspect.php DRM is the world's only, open standard digital radio system for Short-Wave, AM/Medium-Wave and Long-Wave. DRM has been endorsed by the ITU, IEC and ETSI. IMHO - DRM should be the 'uniform' World Wide Standard for all DAB below 30 MHz and a 'uniform' World Wide Standard implemented for FM Band Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB) World Wide. Then for good-or-bad at least there would be a new World Wide "Standard" 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio that would be available for all Radio Listeners around the World. And future Shortwave Receivers hey - it's just one radio listener's opinion ~ RHF |
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RHF wrote: To me a PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card is a better "First Product" for Radio Manufactures then a Home IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio or a Automotive IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio. More "Earily Adapters" will buy a PC Based "HD" Radio -IMHO- before they would buy an "HD" Radio for Home or Car. I'd rather have a stand-alone radio. The circuitry can be made better (in theory) and it's just more transportable. You can pick up the radio and carry it to the kitchen, the living room, the porch.... Can't do that with a computer, unless you have one of those laptops with REAL CHEESY tin-ear speakers. But then, radio tuner cards are pointless to me unless you make a habit of using the computer as a sort of "skimmer" or "logger" -- Steph |
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David Eduardo wrote: That would have been later. When I went on the air, in 1966, the closest FMs were in Lima and San José, CR. None at all in Venezuela and Colombia or Panamá, and nothing north of Lima in Perú. There were many in Brasil,far, far away, used as STLs. HJCK's website says the station went on the air in 1950. http://www.hjck.com/historia.asp "founded on September 15, 1950 with the purpose of raising the culture level of Bogota radio..." By the way, HJCK turned around recently and LMAed their 89.9 FM frequency to Caracol, which in turn, plugged in the "Las 40 Prinicpales" CHR format. *shudder* HJCK is now only heard on the internet. Bummer. :( At least Cali still has HJSA on FM, the classical station owned by the Carvajal office/business services conglomerate -- Steph |
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Stephanie Weil wrote: RHF wrote: To me a PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card is a better "First Product" for Radio Manufactures then a Home IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio or a Automotive IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio. More "Earily Adapters" will buy a PC Based "HD" Radio -IMHO- before they would buy an "HD" Radio for Home or Car. I'd rather have a stand-alone radio. The circuitry can be made better (in theory) and it's just more transportable. You can pick up the radio and carry it to the kitchen, the living room, the porch.... Can't do that with a computer, unless you have one of those laptops with REAL CHEESY tin-ear speakers. But then, radio tuner cards are pointless to me unless you make a habit of using the computer as a sort of "skimmer" or "logger" -- Steph If you need a PC, why not just stream the audio in the first place. I'm not a fan of toys that require a PC. The ability to hook one up is always nice (radio programming, GPS trail playback, etc), but the requirement to use a PC isn't good. Standards change, the OS changes, then you are left with junk if the manufacturer doesn't support the product. |
WHY - A 'separate' PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card would be My Choice for a First "HD" Radio
Miso,
WHY - A 'separate' PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card would be My Choice for a First "HD" Radio It is my experience that often Steaming Audio via the Internet gets Buffered or Drops-Off for many Internet Related Reasons. A separate PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card would simply be a Radio that is co-located with-in the PC and using the PC's Sound System {External Speakers} for the Sound Output. Something to Listen to while using the PC in the Home Office. The Radio like any Radio will pick-up and receive by itself as long as it has Power and the Radio Station's Transmitter is Working. For me the PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card would be to simply listen to the "LOCAL" AM & FM Radio Stations without of the IBOC problems related to Distance (DX) Out-of-Area Stations. -IF- IBOC becomes a "Reality" that we all have to 'Live With' as Radio Listeners in the near future. -Then- How Do I Make It Enjoyable for Me ? ? ? -and- As for Me - I Don't Do "DX" while I am using the PC - I simply Listen to the Locals in the Area. [ For Me this is 'passive' Radio Listening while Thinking About and Doing something else. ] hope this explains "why" i would get a 'pc' base iboc 'hd' am/fm radio plug-and-play card ~ RHF |
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Telamon,
Once again you are speaking to a 'specialised' DRM type Shortwave Radio. While I am talking about a consumer grade AM / FM Radio that happens to be "HD" {IBOC} and incorporated into a Plug-and-Play Card for a PC. Something like these for TV Video and Sound : * TV Tuner Video Capture PCI Card FM Radio http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ8806514986 * WinTV-GO-FM TV Tuner Video Capture PCI Card http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ8786349885 * 3D Vision MPEG TV Tuner Capture Card http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ8819763072 -IF- They can build them for TV with Sight-and-Sound for under $100 -then- They can build them for "HD" {IBOC} AM & FM Radio too. FWIW -IF- RadioShack can sell a complete HD {IBOC} AM & FM Radio for $300 http://tinyurl.com/s7n7d Then a PC Card for a "HD" AM & FM Tuner should be at least 'half' that Price - IMHO http://www.ibiquity.com/hdradio/hdradio_hdproducts.htm "The List" of HD Radio Broadcasting Stations in the State of California - Currently : 79 http://www.ibiquity.com/cgi-bin/list...te=CA&go=Go%21 Note that I currently Receive the Analog Signals of both very well Day and Night up here (120 Miles) in Twain Harte, CA : San Francisco, CA - KCBS @ 740 AM San Francisco, CA - KQED @ 88.5 FM Plus - Fresno, CA - KMJ @ 580 AM using a Grundig Satellit 800 Radio "HD" {IBOC} Radio in Your State http://www.ibiquity.com/hdradio/hdradio_hdstations.htm "HD" Digital Radio a Bust - May Not ! http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,67821,00.html ABOUT - The "HD" {IBOC} Radio Scheme -by iBiquity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-Radio IBOC Will Have To Play Catch-Up With Satellite Radio http://www.rwonline.com/reference-ro...i_feb_15.shtml + Plus More IBOC News http://www.rwonline.com/reference-room/iboc/index.shtml ABOUT - In-Band-On-Channel (IBOC) IBOC = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBOC IBOC AM Broadcasting Is a Complete Failure! http://www.wbdhradio.com/html/say_no_to_iboc.html ABOUT - iBiquity = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBiquity IBIQUITY = http://www.ibiquity.com/hdradio/ i b o c'ing u ~ RHF |
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Dear RHF,
It should be obvious that governments, maybe in conjunction with one another, maybe not, but certainly in conjunction with major media companies, are trying to set up a communications/entertainment system which is completely controllable by them - in other words, the ability to maintain total censorship over the meda, whether it be for content or payment. The media companies would like nothing better than to have us PAY each and every time we WATCH, LISTEN, or READ something - EACH AND EVERY TIME. Thus there would be no such thing as ownership of a copy of a movie, of music, or of literature. You want to access it? YOU PAY! And, of course, ALL governments would like to control what its citizens can watch, listen to, or read - even the most "benevolent" governments. Digital media give governments/media companies the power to do this. Can "digital" be "hacked?" Yes it can but, with the laws now in place, no one DARES do this by, for example, reverse-engineering, and, even if someone did "break" a digital code, he would DARE NOT publish (or even tell anyone) his accomplishment for fear of reprisal, such as jail-time. I'm not kidding about all this. It's happening right now. Europe was a "hot-bed" of hackers but they have been muzzled by threats by their governments (for example, Finland, on January 1st of this year). "Hollywood" has used threats of withholding access to its entertainment if governments do not follow through on muzzling hackers. You may be reading in the newspapers (as far as you can believe them) that our government has been pressuring the Chinese government to "crack down: on hackers in that country (and we all know how "effective" a Chinese crackdown can be!) and the Chines are doing just that. Mind you, I certainly support the right of a content owner to have a reasonable period of exclusivity in return for his/her efforts in producing something. But 95+ years? And I support a government's right to muzzle traitorous or terrorist activity within its borders (to a reasonable extent and presuming the government itself is not a "terrorist" organization) but NOT to inhibit/prohibit its citizens from hearing others' legitimate viewpoints. Analog radio/communications allows free and uninhibited exchange of information. Digital radio/communications does not. As always, my thoughts only. Best, Joe RHF wrote: For One and All, Up for your consideration is the simple fact that up until now the USA and "The World as a whole has had a uniform general Standard of {Common Reality} of an Analog AM/MW Radio Band; an FM Radio Band and Shortwave Radio Bands. This allowed a World-Wide-Commonality at least in some Radio/Receiver Circuitry. Does the Digital Radio Future Offer the same opportunity for a World-Wide-Commonality in some Radio/Receiver Circuitry. WHAT ABOUT - AM / FM DIGITAL RADIO ? Will the be a unique Digital Radio Design for AM/FM Radios built for sale in the USA ? And a completely different Digital Radio Design for AM/FM Radios built for sale in The-Rest-of-the-World ? Will Digital AM/FM Radios sold in Mexico and Canada be using the USA Digital Strandards or the Univeral Standard of The-Rest- of-the-World ? Will Americans have to have a Second Radio to Listen to Digital Radio Transmissions from The-Rest-of-the-World including Mexico and Canada ? What is the Canadian AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? What is the Mexican AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? What is the European AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? - - - Who Will Africa Follow ? What is the Japanese & Korean AM/FM Digital Radio Standard ? - - - What Will The Rest of Asia Do ? What will become of the standard 'portable' AM / FM Shortwave Radio ? WHAT ABOUT - DIGITAL RADIO MONDIALE (DRM) ? ? ? With Respect To - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) will the next generation of built for sale in the USA AM/FM Shortwave Radios have DRM as part of their built-in Circuitry ? About - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) DRM = http://www.drm.org/. Or in the future, will their be a new breed of Stand-Along Shortwave Radio/Receivers that are "Shortwave Only" with built-in DRM Circuitry ? About - Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) DRM = http://www.drm.org/. GOING DIGITAL - Seems to be many paths headed-off in many National {USA} or Regional {Europe} directions where the World Wide Radio Listener is that last consideration [.] I Have Questions ! - Do You Have Any Answers ? ~ RHF |
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In article . com,
"RHF" wrote: Telamon wrote: In article .com, "RHF" wrote: Telamon wrote: In article .com, "RHF" wrote: Telamon wrote: In article .com, "RHF" wrote: Snip As bad as Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) may be . . . At least it is a World Wide Standard and may be in time technology will evolve that will enable the reduction of out-of-channel digital artifacts. Why Is . . . Digital Radio needed below 30 MHz ? Snip It's not needed in its current form, that's for sure. The benefit of moving to the current DRM scheme is not enough to make everyone switch to the digital scheme and buy new radios. I don't see the point in making the listening experience the same in all mediums anyway. I don't want my radio to sound like an Internet stream. I already have the Internet streaming experience on my computer. Just the delay from buffering is a pain. Do you realize that band scanning will be a thing of the past with this as an example of how the listening experience will change? Why do people not realize that any change brings pluses and negatives even if it works right or meets the engineering targets? With DRM working to claimed performance you still have downsides using it over analog. I'll wait for DRM2, 3 or 4 ... until they get it right. DRM proponents better get used to the idea that a DRM radio will suck more power than an analog radio. DRM will require more circuitry and even if they get it down to one integrated chip for all the extra processing needed over analog it will still suck more juice over an analog design. If you don't want to hear this then just keep on dreaming. In the mean time they should stick to a specific part of each of the bands so they don't make a mess of the analog reception and I'm not willing to entertain the notion of some part of the band not being targeted to my region at some time of day either. You have a questions. I just gave the answer. Telamon - I will repeat my self ~ RHF For 'my' "First" Digital AM/MW Radio. I think the first Manufacture to come out with an IBOC AM/FM Radio Plug-an-Play Module for a Home Computer under $100 will be my first IBOC Radio purchase. Having IBOC "Local Only" AM/FM Radio Stations at the Computer for 'passive' Radio Listening while I am thinking and working on something else may be a good use of the both the Time and the Money. Ideally this type of PC based DRM Radio would be Software upwardly programmable for DRM-2-3-4 etc . . . No need to repeat. I sniped and responded to another part of your post, which was the question you posed. If you own a radio capable with a large enough bandwidth filter 12KHz or larger you can take the output to a computer sound card. Then you can buy the DRM software for like $100 bucks. Someone posted here before that you can find the source code at some web site for free but then you would have to compile it yourself and I would have no way of knowing if it would work the same as the purchased software from the DRM consortium site or if it is up to date. Though the source code is free you might have to buy the software development environment (compiler) software. I'm sure someone would respond with that information in the news group if you were to ask. Telamon, I am NOT talking about a "DRM Ready" PC Based Radio. I am talking about a FCC (US) Standard "IBOC Ready" AM/MW and FM 'PC' Based Radio that would simply be a Plug-and-Play Card to insert into any PC for instant IBOC "High Definition" (HD) Quality Sound and other IBOC enhancements such as Text, Data and Images. {Buy--Down-Load-that-Song-Now} {Subscribe-Now} {Sign-Up-Now} {Enter-Now} # 1 - Insert IBOC {HD-Radio} Card # 2 - Load IBOC {HD-Radio} Card Software Enjoy IBOC "HD" AM/MW and FM Radio with improved "High Definition" (HD) Quality Digital Sound from your Local AM/FM Radio Stations through your PC. For 'passive' Radio Listening while working {using} at your PC. To me a PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play Card is a better "First Product" for Radio Manufactures then a Home IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio or a Automotive IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio. More "Earily Adapters" will buy a PC Based "HD" Radio -IMHO- before they would buy an "HD" Radio for Home or Car. My Price Point for a PC Based "HD" Radio = $100 ~ RHF Again I am talking about a US Standard IBOC AM/FM Radio. OK then you will most likely have to pay 5.5 times that for a PC radio such as the WiNRADiO. This is a computer card radio with a DRM option. The least expensive PC card radio they have. WR-G303i $499.95 DRM software $49.95 http://www.winradio.com/ Maybe there is a better deal on the DRM consortium site. Telamon, Once again you are speaking to a 'specialised' DRM type Shortwave Radio. While I am talking about a consumer grade AM / FM Radio that happens to be "HD" {IBOC} and incorporated into a Plug-and-Play Card for a PC. Snip Your original and first three posts to the thread speak to both DRM and HD AMBCB radio. The WiNRADiO will work for the AMBCB but I don't see a HD AMBCB decoder software for it on the Winradio site or anywhere else. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Some of y'all really are a Hoot,sometimes.I dont know what all to make
of it. Heyyyyyy,,, Les,was that you at that Biloxi calcoast website at Biloxi,Mississippi a few years ago and you sugested something to them and they gave you credit? cuhulin |
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SW,
Inside the PC the HD Radio does not end-up cluttering up the Desk Top :o) all things in the home office must look nice and tidy and professional ~ RHF |
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