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[email protected] June 24th 06 02:35 AM

The Japanese also love the Wellbrook loops
 
Some nice photos:

http://ala1530.hobby-web.net/user.html


Joe Analssandrini June 24th 06 04:16 AM

The Japanese also love the Wellbrook loops
 
Hello.

Nice pictures - thanks for the link.

It makes sense for this antenna to be popular in Japan - their homes
(and lots) are relatively small and close together. Plus, with the
Japanese' love for electronic equipment, I should expect that there is
lots of local electrical noise present in many locations. These
Wellbrook antennas are ideal for such situations and their performance
at the very least rivals, and in many cases, especially during the
summer, exceeds that of longwires.

Back in 2005, Andy Ikin had so many orders from Japan (as well as from
Ibiquity - for use with AM IBOC [HD] radio) that there was a very long
wait for orders to be filled.

Though the pictures show the ALA 1530, which is designed primarily for
optimum MW reception with SW reception being somewhat secondary, the
ALA 330S, designed for optimum SW reception, especially on the higher
frequencies, looks just like it. (I own two of them.)

In my opinion, for "real-world" SW listening, there is none better.

Best,

Joe

wrote:
Some nice photos:

http://ala1530.hobby-web.net/user.html


Telamon June 24th 06 05:28 AM

The Japanese also love the Wellbrook loops
 
In article .com,
wrote:

Some nice photos:

http://ala1530.hobby-web.net/user.html

If those are metal masts going through the loop area that is not a good
idea. I understand the desire to provide the support for the loop
mechanically but the metal mast will screw up the loop performance. A
non-conductive mast should be used.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] June 24th 06 05:33 AM

The Japanese also love the Wellbrook loops
 

Joe Analssandrini wrote:
Hello.

Nice pictures - thanks for the link.

It makes sense for this antenna to be popular in Japan - their homes
(and lots) are relatively small and close together. Plus, with the
Japanese' love for electronic equipment, I should expect that there is
lots of local electrical noise present in many locations. These
Wellbrook antennas are ideal for such situations and their performance
at the very least rivals, and in many cases, especially during the
summer, exceeds that of longwires.

Back in 2005, Andy Ikin had so many orders from Japan (as well as from
Ibiquity - for use with AM IBOC [HD] radio) that there was a very long
wait for orders to be filled.

Though the pictures show the ALA 1530, which is designed primarily for
optimum MW reception with SW reception being somewhat secondary, the
ALA 330S, designed for optimum SW reception, especially on the higher
frequencies, looks just like it. (I own two of them.)

In my opinion, for "real-world" SW listening, there is none better.

Best,

Joe

wrote:
Some nice photos:

http://ala1530.hobby-web.net/user.html


I noted Wellbrook added a higher bandwidth version of the 1530, going
right up to the FM broadcast band. I know someone who ordered one, so
I'm waiting for some feedback.

If you have the ALA-100, which allows for more "wire" than their loops,
I seriously doubt there is ever a time when a long wire is better. My
radio switches in an attenuator for some local AM BCB with my ALA-100
that has about 60ft of wire.


Telamon June 24th 06 05:47 AM

The Japanese also love the Wellbrook loops
 
In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

Some nice photos:

http://ala1530.hobby-web.net/user.html

If those are metal masts going through the loop area that is not a good
idea. I understand the desire to provide the support for the loop
mechanically but the metal mast will screw up the loop performance. A
non-conductive mast should be used.


All of those loops do not look like Wellbrook antennas.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF June 24th 06 09:14 AM

The WellBrook Active Loop Antenna ALA 100
 
Miso,

With the larger WellBrook ALA 100 Loop Antenna you are
generally limited to a Fixed Position and therefore can not
use it to Null-Out the Local Noise.

The WellBrook Active Loop Antenna ALA 100 is a Large
Aperture Antenna designed to provide improved performance
compared to traditional Active and Passive Antennas.
http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/ALA100b.html
http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/products.html#ALA100
-Note- At Sixty Feet (60') of Wire a Loop Antenna is a
relatively Long Wire Antenna in the Shape of a Loop. :o)

HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL :
Will the WellBrook Active Loop Antenna ALA 100 work
as well Flat {Horizontal} as well Upright {Vertical} ? ? ?

TWIN LOOP ANTENNA ELEMENT :
I have consider the possibility of using a WellBrook ALA100
that would be suspended up 25 Feet from a Tree Limb.
The Loop would be a Diamond Shape with a Ten Foot (10')
pieceof PVC Pipe as a Cross-Arm using Two continous
30 Foot Wire Loops spaced at about 18 Inches apart. This
would allow the Loop to be Manually Positioned to Null-Out
any Local Noise or to Point the Loop in the general direction
of a Target Signal Area.


interesting - iane ~ RHF

RHF June 25th 06 08:36 AM

The WellBrook Active Loop Antenna ALA 100
 
GA,

You may wish to consider the Size and Spacing parameters
of a T2FD Antenna as a guide in determining whether as the
"Design" Frequency effects the Spacing between the Turns
as the Frequency gets Higher or Lower

* The Formulas for Calculating T2FD Dimensions are as follows.
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../t2design.html

Generally the Distance between the Turns {Spacing} will
get Wider as the Frequency gets lower. - But you already
knew that :o)

T2FD -- The Forgotten Antenna -by- Guy Atkins
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...wire/t2fd.html

I would think that starting with the Sixty Feet Single Turn
WellBrook ALA100 Loop Antenna that the progression form
One to Two Turns to Three Turns . . . would require increased
spacing for each added turn to maintain a certain band width.

One-Turn with Sixty Feet Perimeter with 15 Feet
per Side of a Square/Diamond.
- - - Resulting in a Very Thin Loop Antenna that is
about 22-Feet Top-to-Bottom and Side-to-Side.

Two-Turns about Four Inch Spacing with Thirty Feet Perimeter
with 7.5 Feet per Side of a Square/Diamond.
- - - Resulting in a Three Inch Thick Loop Antenna that is
about 11-Feet Top-to-Bottom and Side-to-Side.

Three-Turns about Six Inch Spacing with Twenty Feet
Perimeter with 5 Feet per Side of a Square/Diamond.
- - - Resulting in an 12-Inch Thick Loop Antenna that is
about Seven Feet Top-to-Bottom and Side-to-Side.

Four-Turns about Eight Inch Spacing with Fifteen Feet
Perimeter with 3.75 Feet per Side of a Square/Diamond.
- - - Resulting in an 24-Inch Thick Loop Antenna that is
about 6 Feet Top-to-Bottom and Side-to-Side.

The smaller more maneuverable Loop Antenna becomes
increasingly Thinker in order to maintain the same
Band-Width for the Loop.


at least that is the way i envision them -iane ~ RHF


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