Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:49:00 GMT, (Hymie)
wrote:

Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different
situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd
wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode"

Even those who tout digital modes - they want to buy an interface and
software and "be" on digital. Then they wonder why the signal they're
hearing, that sounds just like the digital mode they use, doesn't work
on their setup. Maybe because a PSK program won't decode SSTV?

Reminds me of the GPRS "exerts" who can't understand why changing the
"code" on their radios doesn't eliminate the interference from the guy
next door.

The anti-CW crowd wants no code and a written test you can memorize
the answers to. It's their "right" to be on the air, isn't it? Even
if they need 2 more clues to be totally clueless?

There's a world of difference between technical electronics knowledge
and ability to decipher code. One has absolutely nothing to do with the
other. FWIW, I don't even have a ham license anymore. I don't care
about the code, whether it lives or dies. If you enjoy brass pounding,
then do it.

Just don't equate that ability with another that is not even slightly
related.

jak

Eliminating CW will just give retards HF, it won't modernize the service.
 

Proof:


"an_old_friend" wrote in
ups.com:

it is our right and everybody else right that any restriction to our
access to public spectrum be "neccisary and proper" (one of 3 clauses
in the constitution that give the power to regulate the airwave to the
govet at all) otherwise the 10 reserving all right and power to the
sates or the people applies modifing that is the thrid place where the
consititution of US touches on this issue mby making the constitution
and the TREATIES made the supreme law of the land

according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS
unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution

I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect
for that document

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

"J. D. B." wrote in
:

Sorry Blow Code, but you cannot turn back the hands of time. The 13 & 20
WPM tests are gone forever. And soon, the CW testing requirement will
be eliminated completely. It's the will of the majority. It's
evolution. You can whine, cry and carry on all you want about the CW
testing requirement. It is going the way of the buggy whip, the Ford
Model-T, dinosaurs, the carrier pigeons, and a host of other old,
outdated, and unnecessary things of the past. Good Bye and Good
Riddance.

Spoken like a true appliance operator.


If there is any crying and whining after CW is gone, it will be by phonies
wondering why their bands sound like CB.

SC

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics
can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no
longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize.

The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize.
No knowledge of electronics required.

For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to
memorize.
when did the test aquire gender
Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a
schematic and ask them to find a component by function.
I can even my wife who frankly does not the why ofof it can tel the
component
"Knowledge of
electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
if you are that depressed about give it up

go fishing but please trying to killthe ARS with your bile

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 

Al Klein wrote:
For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to
memorize. Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a
schematic and ask them to find a component by function. "Knowledge of
electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any
electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL
License Manual in order to get my Conditional license.
People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for
more than half a century.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
For most people, he written test is also a test of the ability to
memorize. Just show most hams licensed in the past 10 years a
schematic and ask them to find a component by function. "Knowledge of
electronics"? It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any
electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL
License Manual in order to get my Conditional license.
People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for
more than half a century.
at the risk of seeming foolish but the answer will make a point here I
think tyour license did PRECEED your becoming an EE didn't it, by some
many years
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:

Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics
can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no
longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize.


The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize.
No knowledge of electronics required.


Rules and regulations are just an exercise in memorization also. They
require no knowledge of electronics either.

The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language
requirement for some college degrees, it rounds out the amateur skills.

Dave WD9BDZ

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

David G. Nagel wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:

Considering that someone with absolutely no knowledge of electronics
can memorize enough to pass the test in about 8 hours, there's no
longer any real test of anything but the ability to memorize.


The Morse code exam is a test of the ability to memorize.
No knowledge of electronics required.


Rules and regulations are just an exercise in memorization also. They
require no knowledge of electronics either.

The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language
requirement for some college degrees, it rounds out the amateur skills.
an improvement over the drivel most of the procoders are posting
although the analogy streches a bit if I ask what college in the wolrd
has a requirement for one foreign lang and only one

did you submit it in your coments to the FCC?

all in all not bad

Dave WD9BDZ

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 

an old freind wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
In 1953, as a sophomore in high school, I didn't know any
electronics and was therefore forced to memorize the ARRL
License Manual in order to get my Conditional license.
People like me have been memorizing License Manuals for
more than half a century.

at the risk of seeming foolish but the answer will make a point here I
think your license did PRECEED your becoming an EE didn't it, by some
many years

My amateur radio license, obtaining by memorizing the ARRL
License Manual in 1952-1953, was the catalyst that caused
me to seek and obtain a EE degree later in 1959.

The point is that an amateur radio license is a learner's
permit to exercise certain privileges during a lifetime
of learning. It is a permit, not a graduation certificate.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 

David G. Nagel wrote:
The CW text requirement is like the requirement for a foreign language
requirement for some college degrees, ...

I carefully avoided any foreign language
requirement for my BS EE.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp