an_old_friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
an old friend wrote:

Bruce Wilson wrote:

Direction finding.
that works if and only if you know where KB9RQZ is located.

What if the 'tard boy KB9RQZ screws up and mentions his QTH, or (most likely) decides
to communicate with the enemy?
a true traitor would simply ignore the rule (except it might well
result in his death

the logic
of the bans on ars operations that were imposed for the the world war
have always had a rather odd nonlogic about them

I'm certain a lot of things just don't make sense to you.
true enough

but allowing one emeny to complete dirupt one life is rather likeke
letting the terorists win

I've a feeling that WWII pretty much disrupted everyone's life.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


but allowing one emeny to complete dirupt one life is rather likeke
letting the terorists win

I've a feeling that WWII pretty much disrupted everyone's life.
a feeling you? I doubt that

but I know WW2 was a hardly a disruption i the life of any member of
my family
now the horse theat grand dad owned I suspect would said otherwise if
they known why they were being asked to work harder than say 1940 of
course most of my family was the wrong age for that war may have helped
it being more of non intrusive indeed the only affect we would notice
was the shut down in the ars a little problem with gas rationaing some
minorthing like that

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Bruce Wilson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD

In doing some research on Civil Defense I ran across the CONELRAD
stations. In Wikipedia's entry there is a statement that hams were
required in 1957 and later (presumably until 1963 at least) to check
that a major broadcast station was on the air.

Any old-timers remember this requirement? Was it regularly done by
working hams?

Yes it was a requirement and hams were *supposed* to monitor, but who
would really know if all hams did?

My dad had a home-brew Conelrad monitor that was in use at his ham
station whenever he was operating. It was a fixed frequency receiver,
tuned to WJR, a 50 kW, clear-channel (at the time) station located in
the Detroit area.

I was only 12 in '57 and two years away from getting my ham ticket, so
I'm not really sure of the technical details other than that it was
tuned to WJR (760 kHz) and operated a NE-2 neon bulb; if the WJR carrier
went away, the bulb went out. Even though it was home-brew, I don't know
if it was his own design or based on an article in the ham magazines of
the day.

One of the other posters quoted that hams had to monitor 640 or 1240
kHz--but that's not quite right. They just had to monitor a local BC
station...

From http://www.westgeorgia.org/conelrad/ :

Even Amateur Radio (ham) stations had to monitor a broadcast station
at all times, and to stop transmitting if there was a CONELRAD alert.

and from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD:

Beginning in 1957, operating U.S. amateur radio stations were
required to verify at least once every 10 minutes that a normal
broadcast station was on the air. If not, the amateurs were required
to stop transmitting.

Please note they said "a *normal* broadcast station", not 640 or 1240 kc/s.

"Carter, k8vt" wrote:

Bruce Wilson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD

In doing some research on Civil Defense I ran across the CONELRAD
stations. In Wikipedia's entry there is a statement that hams were
required in 1957 and later (presumably until 1963 at least) to check
that a major broadcast station was on the air.

Any old-timers remember this requirement? Was it regularly done by
working hams?

Yes it was a requirement and hams were *supposed* to monitor, but who
would really know if all hams did?

My dad had a home-brew Conelrad monitor that was in use at his ham
station whenever he was operating. It was a fixed frequency receiver,
tuned to WJR, a 50 kW, clear-channel (at the time) station located in
the Detroit area.

I was only 12 in '57 and two years away from getting my ham ticket, so
I'm not really sure of the technical details other than that it was
tuned to WJR (760 kHz) and operated a NE-2 neon bulb; if the WJR carrier
went away, the bulb went out. Even though it was home-brew, I don't know
if it was his own design or based on an article in the ham magazines of
the day.

One of the other posters quoted that hams had to monitor 640 or 1240
kHz--but that's not quite right. They just had to monitor a local BC
station...

From http://www.westgeorgia.org/conelrad/ :

Even Amateur Radio (ham) stations had to monitor a broadcast station
at all times, and to stop transmitting if there was a CONELRAD alert.

and from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD:

Beginning in 1957, operating U.S. amateur radio stations were
required to verify at least once every 10 minutes that a normal
broadcast station was on the air. If not, the amateurs were required
to stop transmitting.

Please note they said "a *normal* broadcast station", not 640 or 1240 kc/s.

"With the importance of CONELRAD in the early 1950's, it's
surprising that amateurs were not required to monitor for the
CONELRAD alarm. This was rectified on January 2, 1957 when
the FCC amended Part 12 of the Rules and Regulations to require
the following:

All operators of stations in the Amateur Radio Service will
be responsible for the reception of the CONELRAD RADIO ALERT
by monitoring 640 or 1240 kc."

I suppose one could go back and find Part 12 from that time to verify if that
were indeed true.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce ) writes:
an old friend wrote:

Bruce Wilson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD

In doing some research on Civil Defense I ran across the CONELRAD stations.
In Wikipedia's entry there is a statement that hams were required in 1957
and later (presumably until 1963 at least) to check that a major broadcast
station was on the air.

Any old-timers remember this requirement? Was it regularly done by working
hams?
hmm I had heard of the Conelrad system although being born in 1964 it
hardly applied to me

although why would you want all ham of the airs suddenly seems strange
but then so does code testing

Direction finding.

Hams had to go off the air in WWII, from right after Pearl Harbor till November
1945.

And in WWI also, which was actually a worse situation since there was debate
after the war about whether hams should be allowed back on afterwards.

Michael

Practice that code!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

wikipedia is Crap.
cuhulin

I am sixty four years old.I own many,many old tube type radios and
many,many old transistor radios (between two hundred to three hundred
old radios,I own) with the Conelrad markings on them and I own an old
Geiger counter.Other than those items I own,I dont know anything about
Conelrad.Do I LQQK like an expert or something?
cuhulin

November 5th,1941.It was so bad,World War Two broke out about a month
later.
cuhulin

soc.history.war.world-war-ii
News Group.
cuhulin

wrote:

November 5th,1941.It was so bad,World War Two broke out about a month
later.
cuhulin



World War II started in 1939, you arrogant self centered prick. Please
tell me you're not American.




mike