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James Douglas July 24th 06 10:20 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas

Brian Hill July 24th 06 12:17 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 

"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas


Jim,
If the radio is rated for the type and voltage of the batteries you
installed in it, then the batteries are not at fault. Your problem lies else
where.


--

Regards
B.H.
Southern, MN USA
Radios- R-5000, NRD525,SP-600,SX-28,Eton E1

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm



homepc July 24th 06 12:20 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
I recharge my green Degen 1300 MiMH batteries in a slow charge Powerex MH
C-401FS battery charger with no problems. Maybe you have one bad battery?
Did you check to see if your radio will work with a fresh set of alkaline
batteries?


"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas




John S. July 24th 06 12:26 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 

James Douglas wrote:
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!


Are you saying that batteries of the correct size and voltage which
were recharged in an external charger caused the radio to catch or
fire, or at least begin to smoke?


Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!


I think the manual will say somehting like only NIMH batteries should
be recharged in the radio(meaning not nicad or alkaline).


Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never heard of it. I suspect something else.




jimdouglas



Sanjaya July 24th 06 02:34 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

James Douglas wrote:
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!


Are you saying that batteries of the correct size and voltage which
were recharged in an external charger caused the radio to catch or
fire, or at least begin to smoke?


Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!


I think the manual will say somehting like only NIMH batteries should
be recharged in the radio(meaning not nicad or alkaline).



The E-10 must have NIMH batteries selected in System Settings to recharge in the radio.
The would not recharge if the setting was for regular AA batteries.

If radio was set for regular AA and NIMH batteries were inserted
what would happen? The manual is not clear about that. It does say the radio must
be set for the proper batteries and it does say it won't charge regular AA if that
is attempted.
Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never heard of it. I suspect something else.




jimdouglas





John S. July 24th 06 02:45 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 

Sanjaya wrote:
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

James Douglas wrote:
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!


Are you saying that batteries of the correct size and voltage which
were recharged in an external charger caused the radio to catch or
fire, or at least begin to smoke?


Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!


I think the manual will say somehting like only NIMH batteries should
be recharged in the radio(meaning not nicad or alkaline).



The E-10 must have NIMH batteries selected in System Settings to recharge in the radio.
The would not recharge if the setting was for regular AA batteries.

If radio was set for regular AA and NIMH batteries were inserted
what would happen? The manual is not clear about that. It does say the radio must
be set for the proper batteries and it does say it won't charge regular AA if that
is attempted.


That is good information. The O.P. should go back and re-read the
manual and read your message. I get the feeling that the manual was
probably skimmed at best.

I've had the best luck using a wall wart recharger and 2 sets of nimh
batteries on a DE1103. That setup allows the radio to stay truly
portable at all times.


Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never heard of it. I suspect something else.




jimdouglas




David July 24th 06 04:59 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:20:28 -0500, James Douglas
wrote:

Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas


The charging method didn't smoke the radio. I use an external charger
with mine and use the really hot silver NiMhs from Fry's.


[email protected] July 24th 06 05:04 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
I done told y'all rug rats before about them Etons,,, But HEY,,, dont
believe me!
I have to watch Chain Lightning old,old movie on Radio tv now.It isn't
my fault.
cuhulin


Capt. HentaiVideoPr0n July 24th 06 06:28 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 

"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never ever charge NiMh cells in a NiCad charger.
It will OVER-CHARGE them every time. However the
radio should have had some kind of an over-voltage
circuit built into it. That said however, after
that experience are you are REALLY going to buy
*another one* of these cheap Chinese made Eton
pieces of junk??? Get yourself a Sony or a Grundig
or better yet a vintage Radio Shack or GE or Panasonic
shortwave. They were built far better than the modern
day crap and their analog tuning is best for swl listening.


Robert Sherrod July 24th 06 10:46 PM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 


Capt. HentaiVideoPr0n wrote:
"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never ever charge NiMh cells in a NiCad charger.
It will OVER-CHARGE them every time. However the
radio should have had some kind of an over-voltage
circuit built into it. That said however, after
that experience are you are REALLY going to buy
*another one* of these cheap Chinese made Eton
pieces of junk??? Get yourself a Sony or a Grundig
or better yet a vintage Radio Shack or GE or Panasonic
shortwave. They were built far better than the modern
day crap and their analog tuning is best for swl listening.


I assume you are referring to vintage Grundigs or European Grundigs. All
"Grundig" radios sold in the United States are produced by Eton Corp and
the Grundig name is licensed. I have a "Grundig" Mini 30PE produced by
Eton and have had no problems with it.

When recommending vintage shortwave receivers Zenith Transoceanic's
should also be considered. They were rugged receivers and very well
designed.

Thanks,

Bobby
KC9IHK

Slow Code July 25th 06 12:42 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
wrote in
:

I done told y'all rug rats before about them Etons,,, But HEY,,, dont
believe me!
I have to watch Chain Lightning old,old movie on Radio tv now.It isn't
my fault.
cuhulin



whose fault is it then?



James Douglas July 25th 06 01:47 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
James Douglas wrote:
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas


Jeesh, lots of information, possibly a troll! Nope.

The batteries are Eton Ni-MH 1100 which came with the radio! I never got
the batteries to charge correctly within the radio and ETON replaced the
batteries as they indicated there were problems with some batteries. In
fact I received them today, one day too late I guess. I am pleased that
they sent out new batteries!

I charged them with the a charger which supports only Ni-MH type
batteries. I have charged these same Eton batteries before in this
charger with no problems. The internal setting are correct and the
batteries were installed correctly.

It smoked, no fire, just smoke and that terrible smell that indicates
your favorite bedside radio is fried. I just sent them an email and
wonder what they will say. I purchased another one today on Ebay for
$29.00 + 10.00 Fedex Shipping. I don't think I will be using
rechargeable batteries in the new one!


James Douglas July 25th 06 01:48 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
homepc wrote:
I recharge my green Degen 1300 MiMH batteries in a slow charge Powerex MH
C-401FS battery charger with no problems. Maybe you have one bad battery?
Did you check to see if your radio will work with a fresh set of alkaline
batteries?


"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..
Never got the batteries to re-charge via the radio so I dropped the
batteries into my normal AA charger. 12 hours later took them out and
placed them into my radio and !Pffof! smoked the bitch!

Looked in the manual and it indicates that you should never recharge
the batteries in any other way than indicated, ie, in the radio with
their power-pack, etc!

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


jimdouglas



Nope dead still with regular batteries.

James Douglas July 25th 06 01:51 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
Capt. HentaiVideoPr0n wrote:
"James Douglas" wrote in message
. ..

Anyone heard of this before, there were the batteries that were included
with the radio, green eton NI-MH 1100! Guess it's time to go to ebay
for another!


Never ever charge NiMh cells in a NiCad charger.
It will OVER-CHARGE them every time. However the
radio should have had some kind of an over-voltage
circuit built into it. That said however, after
that experience are you are REALLY going to buy
*another one* of these cheap Chinese made Eton
pieces of junk??? Get yourself a Sony or a Grundig
or better yet a vintage Radio Shack or GE or Panasonic
shortwave. They were built far better than the modern
day crap and their analog tuning is best for swl listening.

I have a few of little portables and this Eton E-10 is by far the best
sounding of them ALL! I can pickup quite a few SW stations and it's been
great as a bedside radio which I use every night. I really loved the
timer and would set it and listen till,,,,,,,,

[email protected] July 25th 06 02:53 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
I dont know what a ''vintage'' Grundig is,,,, But I do own a 1957 wooden
cabinet AM/FM/Phonograph Grundig (made by Telefumken,in my opinion)
Shortwave floor model Radio.In fact,I am looking at it right now,parked
on my living room hard wood old floor by one of my living room front
windows.Not for sale or trade for love or money.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 25th 06 02:57 AM

Eton E-10 Up In Smoke
 
Vanessa better be in the Minneapolis area right now.She has a fed govt
court date on the 25th of this month,July,2006.
And she bugs me about nagging her!
cuhulin


RHF July 25th 06 07:35 AM

Be Safe - Be Wise - Use the Right type of Charger with the Right type of Battery
 
Sanjaya,

Standard Alkaline "AA" Battery about 1.5 VDC

NiMH and NiCad "AA" Battery about 1.2 VDC

Going from Alkaline Batteries to NiMH or NiCad
Batteries should not produce any bad results other
than slightly less performance.
= = = 6.0 VDC down to 4.8 VDC

However, for a Radio Designed or Set-Up for NiMH
or NiCad Batteries inserting and using Alkaline type
Batteries could cause some possible problems
= = = 4.8 VDC up to 6.0 VDC

If the Radio is Designed to use a built-in NiMH Battery
Recharging Circuit with the installed NiMH Batteries.
Then using an External NiMH Battery Charger should
with NiMH Batteries should not be a problem.

The key 'safety' problem with NiMH Batteries seems
to be when some one tries to Re-Charge them with
a NiCad Battery Recharger. Then they can overheat;
get very hot; start a fire; and/or explode. -But- They
usually only charge up to 1.2 VDC and if they are OK
after re-charging; can be installed into a radio and used
safely. Repeating the process several time may not be
the smartest thing to do...

Be Safe - Be Wise - Use the Right type of Charger
with the Right type of Battery.

~ RHF


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