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I am in the process of recapping one of my receivers that uses many 0.05 MFD
paper caps. Since 0.05s are not READILY available, I am split equally on the following: 1. Do I recap using the more readily available 0.047 MFD caps even though they are of less capacity than the original? OR... 2. Do I recap by paralleling readily available 0.022 and 0.033 for a total capacity of 0.055 MFD? If I do the 0.047 replacement I am violating the rule I have had beaten in to me about NEVER allow a capacitor to be of LESS capacity...but when they are higher it is OK. However 0.047 MF is only 0.003 MFD off the target 0.05 MFD value whereas the "safer" higher parallel combination (0.055 MFD) is 0.005 MFD higher than the target capacity. Thoughts? My receiver uses a lot of the 0.05s so it is not like I only have one or two to consider. Thanks for any help. Gary |
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![]() "SX-88" wrote in message ... I am in the process of recapping one of my receivers that uses many 0.05 MFD paper caps. Since 0.05s are not READILY available, I am split equally on the following: 1. Do I recap using the more readily available 0.047 MFD caps even though they are of less capacity than the original? OR... 2. Do I recap by paralleling readily available 0.022 and 0.033 for a total capacity of 0.055 MFD? If I do the 0.047 replacement I am violating the rule I have had beaten in to me about NEVER allow a capacitor to be of LESS capacity...but when they are higher it is OK. However 0.047 MF is only 0.003 MFD off the target 0.05 MFD value whereas the "safer" higher parallel combination (0.055 MFD) is 0.005 MFD higher than the target capacity. Thoughts? My receiver uses a lot of the 0.05s so it is not like I only have one or two to consider. Thanks for any help. Gary Gary, Personal opinion here... I wouldn't hesitate for a heartbeat to put in the .047s. They're well within the manufacturer's margin of error in any case. And single .047s are much cheaper and better looking than a bunch of paralleled caps. Also... personal opinion as well, I've intentionally used much smaller caps than OEM in some circuit locations, such as line bypasses. Cheers, Nelson |
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SX-88 wrote:
I am in the process of recapping one of my receivers that uses many 0.05 MFD paper caps. Since 0.05s are not READILY available, I am split equally on the following: 1. Do I recap using the more readily available 0.047 MFD caps even though they are of less capacity than the original? OR... I agree... There is absolutely no reason not to use .047's. de K3HVG |
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I third the motion. You can actually calculate the needed capacity in any
particular circuit, whether it be bypassing or coupling. The chance that any particular .05ufd capacitor originally used by the reeceiver manufacturer would be the calculated value is about as as slim as finding a nice SX-88 at a landfill. Ballpark is close enough, unless it is in a tuned circuit. And, the capacitors usually have a tolerance far greater than the .03 ufd difference. Use the .047 and do not give it another thought. 73, Colin K7FM |
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COLIN LAMB wrote:
I third the motion. You can actually calculate the needed capacity in any particular circuit, whether it be bypassing or coupling. The chance that any particular .05ufd capacitor originally used by the reeceiver manufacturer would be the calculated value is about as as slim as finding a nice SX-88 at a landfill. Ballpark is close enough, unless it is in a tuned circuit. Note that some of these WILL be in tuned circuits, and you'll almost certainly need to realign the receiver with a sweep generator afterward. But that is not a bad thing. And, the capacitors usually have a tolerance far greater than the .03 ufd difference. Yes, figure 20% tolerances on those things. Use the .047 and do not give it another thought. If you really worry, you can get .05 uF orange drops. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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about as as slim as finding a nice SX-88 at a landfill.
Hey, whaddya mean?!? http://www.antiqueradio.org/dumpster.htm :-) Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/html P.S. I agree with other responders that the .047 is a fine replacement. Since the old caps were manufactured to such a wide tolerance, your modern replacements may be closer to the specified value than most of the originals! |
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And, Phil's website is as good and concise as it gets about replacing
capacitors. See http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm Even if you have been doing it for years, you will appreciate Phil's nice writing style and useful information. And, a big fat A for taking the time to help spread his wisdom, learned from years of experience. Even after years of repairing radios, we learn that we can do it better. A few years ago I was going to replace a paper cap in a 17 tube receiver. I do them one at a time. I clipped the old one out, got a phone call and dinner call and shut the soldering iron off and left. I was not able to return to the work for about a month. By then, I knew there was a capacitor out - but I had clipped the old leads off and it took me an hour of tracing and schematic reading before I could determine where the missing capacitor was. Now, I am more methodical and make notes before I clip the capacitor. A notebook and pencil are always nearby to document before I start work. Life has been much simpler since then. And, it really is a good idea to test the radio after a maximum number of changes. Colin K7FM |
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![]() "COLIN LAMB" wrote in message ... And, Phil's website is as good and concise as it gets about replacing capacitors. See http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm was. Now, I am more methodical and make notes before I clip the capacitor. A notebook and pencil are always nearby to document before I start work. Life has been much simpler since then. And, it really is a good idea to test the radio after a maximum number of changes. Colin K7FM Keep a cheap set of imported clip leads handy. Place a set over the snipped leads to "remind" where the old part was snipped from. Digital photos of sections of the under chassis are also great visual reminders. Pete k1zjh |
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"Keep a cheap set of imported clip leads handy. Place a set over the snipped
leads to "remind" where the old part was snipped from." Great Idea. Why didn't I think of that. Now I will be able to keep repairing radios clear into senility. Thanks, Colin K7FM |
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On Oct 17, 7:38 pm, "COLIN LAMB" wrote:
And, Phil's website is as good and concise as it gets about replacing capacitors. Seehttp://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm Even if you have been doing it for years, you will appreciate Phil's nice writing style and useful information. And, a big fat A for taking the time to help spread his wisdom, learned from years of experience. Even after years of repairing radios, we learn that we can do it better. A few years ago I was going to replace a paper cap in a 17 tube receiver. I do them one at a time. I clipped the old one out, got a phone call and dinner call and shut the soldering iron off and left. I was not able to return to the work for about a month. By then, I knew there was a capacitor out - but I had clipped the old leads off and it took me an hour of tracing and schematic reading before I could determine where the missing capacitor was. Now, I am more methodical and make notes before I clip the capacitor. A notebook and pencil are always nearby to document before I start work. Life has been much simpler since then. And, it really is a good idea to test the radio after a maximum number of changes. Colin K7FM Colin has it right. I had a similar experience. Ever since, I keep a digital camera close and take close-up pictures as the work progresses. I can always check my work, and I have a set of pictures afterwards to show off. I also keep a scratch copy of the radio manual's component list and schematic that I mark up during the job. When I hand the radio over to the owner, I can show him exactly what I did to restore the radio. Gary WA7MLK |
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