Looking for outdoor omni "whip" antenna for 2.4 GHz.

Is there any reason to not go for the greatest gain antenna, given that cost
is not too important (within reason)?

There are scads of these on the 'net. I'm looking for someone who has
experience with one or more of them and can make a recommendation for one.

Thanks,
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DaveC wrote:
Looking for outdoor omni "whip" antenna for 2.4 GHz.

Is there any reason to not go for the greatest gain antenna, given that cost
is not too important (within reason)?

There are scads of these on the 'net. I'm looking for someone who has
experience with one or more of them and can make a recommendation for one.

Thanks,

There are 1/2 wave antennas on the market which do a decent job. I have
found their biggest problem is the coax the manufacturer ships with
them--too low of quality and too short.

Here is an article on one you can homebrew yourself, from ANY USB wifi
card:
http://tinyurl.com/6xdfav

-- or --

How about one of these?:

http://tinyurl.com/5ocovb

used with a 25 ft. USB extension cable, I use it when traveling. Plus,
you bypass the need for expensive/lossy SHF coax ...

Regards,
JS

"John Smith" wrote in message
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DaveC wrote:
Looking for outdoor omni "whip" antenna for 2.4 GHz.

Is there any reason to not go for the greatest gain antenna, given that
cost
is not too important (within reason)?

There are scads of these on the 'net. I'm looking for someone who has
experience with one or more of them and can make a recommendation for
one.

Thanks,

There are 1/2 wave antennas on the market which do a decent job. I have
found their biggest problem is the coax the manufacturer ships with
them--too low of quality and too short.

Here is an article on one you can homebrew yourself, from ANY USB wifi
card:
http://tinyurl.com/6xdfav

-- or --

How about one of these?:

http://tinyurl.com/5ocovb

used with a 25 ft. USB extension cable, I use it when traveling. Plus,
you bypass the need for expensive/lossy SHF coax ...

Regards,
JS

I concur. I like the Huntgate solution but prefer to use Ethernet for the
run. However, there is a problem with using a high gain omni antenna in an
urban area where there is a lot of channel loading. Your throughput drops
because you are spending a lot of time with collision avoidance. This might
work at night, but not if everyone leaves their wireless up all the time.

WiFi was meant to be short range. When you improve your range, you compound
your interference problem exponentially. If you use a Pringles can you have
a big advantage because it is as if you moved your low gain antenna closer
to the AP but you still have the problem of the connections the AP hears but
you don't hear and can't avoid colliding with. At least you aren't being
bombarded with broadcasts.

Simply put, there are limitations to performance when you put yourself in a
crowded situation.

JB wrote:

...
I concur. I like the Huntgate solution but prefer to use Ethernet for the
run. However, there is a problem with using a high gain omni antenna in an
urban area where there is a lot of channel loading. Your throughput drops
because you are spending a lot of time with collision avoidance. This might
work at night, but not if everyone leaves their wireless up all the time.

WiFi was meant to be short range. When you improve your range, you compound
your interference problem exponentially. If you use a Pringles can you have
a big advantage because it is as if you moved your low gain antenna closer
to the AP but you still have the problem of the connections the AP hears but
you don't hear and can't avoid colliding with. At least you aren't being
bombarded with broadcasts.

Simply put, there are limitations to performance when you put yourself in a
crowded situation.


Taking in your text, "overall", I fail to find anything I would nit-pick
at ...

But, you know, as well as I, we are going to attempt to expand range to
and even beyond "its' limits", like a mountain--just because it is
there. :-)

I mean, "That is what we do!" grin

Regards,
JS

"John Smith" wrote in message
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JB wrote:

...
I concur. I like the Huntgate solution but prefer to use Ethernet for
the
run. However, there is a problem with using a high gain omni antenna in
an
urban area where there is a lot of channel loading. Your throughput
drops
because you are spending a lot of time with collision avoidance. This
might
work at night, but not if everyone leaves their wireless up all the
time.

WiFi was meant to be short range. When you improve your range, you
compound
your interference problem exponentially. If you use a Pringles can you
have
a big advantage because it is as if you moved your low gain antenna
closer
to the AP but you still have the problem of the connections the AP hears
but
you don't hear and can't avoid colliding with. At least you aren't
being
bombarded with broadcasts.

Simply put, there are limitations to performance when you put yourself
in a
crowded situation.


Taking in your text, "overall", I fail to find anything I would nit-pick
at ...

But, you know, as well as I, we are going to attempt to expand range to
and even beyond "its' limits", like a mountain--just because it is
there. :-)

I mean, "That is what we do!" grin

Regards,
JS

Any excuse to raise the noise floor--

JB wrote:


Any excuse to raise the noise floor--


Hmmm, I thought you "bright enough", guess I was wrong ... :-(

Your newsreader has no filters? You are not "bright enough" to use them?

You are not "bright enough" to have figured this out?

You are not "bright enough" to get by without someone telling you?

Etc.?

Filter me, IDIOT!

Regards,
(but STOP your incessant bitching, trust me, the wife is enough ... if I
need more, I'll ask you ... trust me, I won't go wanting ... ROFLOL!)
JS :-)

JB wrote:

...
Any excuse to raise the noise floor--


Whoa ... I apologize to the wife ... she just read the previous post, I
made, to this one ...

She pointed out that you are MUCH WORSE than her--she asked me if you
were gay or had "problems", she did NOT laugh ...

I will not repeat that mistake (next time I won't show her ...
HEHEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!)

Regards,
JS

Any excuse to raise the noise floor--

I didn't mean for you to take that as a suggestion. You don't have to do
what I tell you to do. That's what we have the news media for.

JB wrote:

...
Simply put, there are limitations to performance when you put yourself in a
crowded situation.


You know, JB? Ever since you have entered here, I found you to be an
idiot? I mean, I don't want to be rude, or anything ... now, you have
fertile ground to prove me wrong! I will pause for the words of wisdom
which change my life ...

But then, what are you? Do you have a book you quote from? Do you have
any antennas you are experimenting with? Are they ancient ones, ones we
have seen a dozen times before now? Are you one who wishes to "buddy up
with one(s)" already quoting one (or more) of the "great minds of
yesterday?" Are you here to quote from books for the poor?; i.e., those
who can't afford the books so you "throw quotes out, and bits-of-wisdom
for ignorant and starving minds?" Are you here to "enlighten my mind?"
Are you here to enlighten us all?

What are you about? Whatever it is, please get on with your "big bad
self." My patience grows thin and I am beginning to think you have
NOTHING to offer other than I have already seen? (and seen, many, many
times yawn)

But then, a pause, let us be "be-dazzled!" ... your forum awaits you ...
I now hang upon your every word! :-) Go forth and cure my ignorance!

Regards,
JS

DaveC wrote:
Looking for outdoor omni "whip" antenna for 2.4 GHz.

Is there any reason to not go for the greatest gain antenna, given that cost
is not too important (within reason)?

There are scads of these on the 'net. I'm looking for someone who has
experience with one or more of them and can make a recommendation for one.

Thanks,

To be complete, here is an example of a 1/2 external with sma connector
and 9 ft. length of coax. Notice, they DO NOT mention what the
attenuation factor for the coax is ... :-(

http://tinyurl.com/653n5y

Regards,
JS