On Aug 18, 6:38*pm, Day Brown wrote:
On 08/18/2010 07:31 PM, Big China Blue wrote:

In er.com,
* Day *wrote:

On 08/18/2010 04:44 PM, RHF wrote:
Be that as it may, the wise are motivated by more than money. Teachers
like working with kids that are orderly, pay attention, and actually
learn. They want their own kids in schools that work. The teacher tests
removed the incompetent but well connected (who we see were not removed
in the recent banking/Wall Street debacle), and as a result the level of
competence rose with teachers synergistically motivating each other and
the kids. Because there were no longer any incompetent teachers, all
teachers got more respect.

Paying professionals in the bureacracy, banking,& * brokerages did not
result in a higher quality of management. I dont think paying lawyers
more has resulted in better quality justice. More money attracts the
greedy, not just the competent.

1 - Self-Motivation out of Love/Calling for "The Job"
-of-
2 - Motivation by Money Earned Doing 'a job'.

i would take #1 ~ RHF
-cause- Being a Teacher is not just 'a job' .
Agreed. Maybe if the fools who think money is the only motivator had
better teachers...

That must mean all this about testing teachers is nonsense, because so many
people love teaching that don't mind be paid crap.

- Maybe you missed it; but the problem testing revealed in Arkansas is
- that local schoolboards were treating teaching jobs as political
pork,
- hiring unqualified people who were connected personally in some way
with
- school board members.

To these so-called 'teachers' the 'job' was just a pay-check;
and they knew who to vote-for to keep that pay-check coming.

No Teaching Certificates

Temporary Teaching Certificates being used for decades.

Sometimes not even a 2-Year Degree.

Sort of like Mexico where a MX High School
Graduate can teach in a MX Primary School.

Real teachers were ****ed.