Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:31:06 GMT, KC3AK wrote:

Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry
Terry,
While not having direct S10 experience, there are a couple 'general
rules' that will help. The first you have, and that is connecting
directly to the battery - fusing both positive and negative power
leads. The secon rule is to keep those power leads and the antenna
feedline as far away from the vehicles electrical harnesses and
on-board computer as possible. With my Nissan, the location of the
harnesses and computer were given in the owners manual and the Chevy
manual may list them as well; if not check with the service department
and ask for the information.

A related anecdote. When installing a dual bander in my previous
truck I used separate VHF and UHF antennas; when on the freeway one
day I keyed up on UHF using high power and found my speed dropping
until I un-keyed. Checked it out again (where there was little
traffic) and same thing ........ had to confirm it wasn't just a
coincidence. With no other cable routing options for the UHF antenna
I opted for a dual bander and a different cable routing and the
problem cleared up.

Good luck & 73,
Howard

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:31:06 GMT, KC3AK wrote:

Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry
Terry,
While not having direct S10 experience, there are a couple 'general
rules' that will help. The first you have, and that is connecting
directly to the battery - fusing both positive and negative power
leads. The secon rule is to keep those power leads and the antenna
feedline as far away from the vehicles electrical harnesses and
on-board computer as possible. With my Nissan, the location of the
harnesses and computer were given in the owners manual and the Chevy
manual may list them as well; if not check with the service department
and ask for the information.

A related anecdote. When installing a dual bander in my previous
truck I used separate VHF and UHF antennas; when on the freeway one
day I keyed up on UHF using high power and found my speed dropping
until I un-keyed. Checked it out again (where there was little
traffic) and same thing ........ had to confirm it wasn't just a
coincidence. With no other cable routing options for the UHF antenna
I opted for a dual bander and a different cable routing and the
problem cleared up.

Good luck & 73,
Howard

"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry


I have a '97 S-10 with both HF and VHF/UHF installed. While the newer model
may mess up, I haven't heard of any issues with radio installations.

Jerry
K4KWH

"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry


I have a '97 S-10 with both HF and VHF/UHF installed. While the newer model
may mess up, I haven't heard of any issues with radio installations.

Jerry
K4KWH

My Yaesu FT-7800 is installed in my 2003 s-10. No problems. I usually run
20 watts. Try it out.
Don't run full power unless you need to.

73,
W2USB
"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry

My Yaesu FT-7800 is installed in my 2003 s-10. No problems. I usually run
20 watts. Try it out.
Don't run full power unless you need to.

73,
W2USB
"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry

GM has a service bulletin posted somewhere on theier web page (I'll look for
it later) that IIRC recommends direct connection at battery (right front of
vehicle) of both pos and neg leads, both (IIRC) fused at the battery, using
a NAPA or other side terminal extender bolt, and, IIRC, crossing to left
side at front by radiator then rearward thru firewall. I believe the OBC is
right side near firewall, and it should be well shielded to meet non
optional part 15 requirements. Another practice I have seen recommended
elsewhere is to twist the pair of wires as they run from battery to
x-mitter, in order to reduce pickup or radiation (same concept as twisted
pairs for CAT 3 & CAT 5, mic cables, TV twinlead, ladderline, etc.)

Ferrite beads could also be applied th the power leads to attenuate any RF
that did make it out (or in), too, and may be needed elsewhere if something
else proves noisy.

Ford states in a similar (though slightly less detailed) bulliten that their
vehicles are designed for transmitters 100 watts output and recomments
antenna (with good quality 95% min shield coax) on roof or center of trunk
lid, but not on/near hood or front fenders, and not thru glass type for
windows w/ built in AM/FM antennas, and not near defroster lines.

GM seems to be good about screwed (vs clipped) ground braid on their hoods.

Transmitters are a fact of life in small and large light trucks (utility,
DPW, public safety, commercial, etc. service in addition to amateur, and
full size sedans (police as well as others above).

Did hear a funny story a few years ago of a radio install that gave nothing
but trouble when transmitter was keyed, seems they had wrapped excess
antenna coax around an available box under the dash, turned out it was
related to the computer control system, coax trimmed and relocated and end
of problem.




"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry

GM has a service bulletin posted somewhere on theier web page (I'll look for
it later) that IIRC recommends direct connection at battery (right front of
vehicle) of both pos and neg leads, both (IIRC) fused at the battery, using
a NAPA or other side terminal extender bolt, and, IIRC, crossing to left
side at front by radiator then rearward thru firewall. I believe the OBC is
right side near firewall, and it should be well shielded to meet non
optional part 15 requirements. Another practice I have seen recommended
elsewhere is to twist the pair of wires as they run from battery to
x-mitter, in order to reduce pickup or radiation (same concept as twisted
pairs for CAT 3 & CAT 5, mic cables, TV twinlead, ladderline, etc.)

Ferrite beads could also be applied th the power leads to attenuate any RF
that did make it out (or in), too, and may be needed elsewhere if something
else proves noisy.

Ford states in a similar (though slightly less detailed) bulliten that their
vehicles are designed for transmitters 100 watts output and recomments
antenna (with good quality 95% min shield coax) on roof or center of trunk
lid, but not on/near hood or front fenders, and not thru glass type for
windows w/ built in AM/FM antennas, and not near defroster lines.

GM seems to be good about screwed (vs clipped) ground braid on their hoods.

Transmitters are a fact of life in small and large light trucks (utility,
DPW, public safety, commercial, etc. service in addition to amateur, and
full size sedans (police as well as others above).

Did hear a funny story a few years ago of a radio install that gave nothing
but trouble when transmitter was keyed, seems they had wrapped excess
antenna coax around an available box under the dash, turned out it was
related to the computer control system, coax trimmed and relocated and end
of problem.




"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry

Got it: GMNA Engineering Centers, General Motors Corporation, January 2002,
Radio Telephone / Mobile Radio Installation Guidelines
http://service.gm.com/techlineinfo/radio.html

Complete w/ illustrations!

See also: Ford Motor Company Mobile Radio Installation Guidelines
http://www.fordemc.com/docs/download...adio_Guide.pdf

Also: Chrysler Corporation Radio Communication Equipment Installation
Recommendations
http://www.neons.org/neontsb/TSB/08/081698.htm

Here, among other stories is the one about the RG-58 coiled around the
control module:
http://www.eham.net/articles/706



"The Masked Marvel" wrote in message
news:iZMCc.103114$Sw.33810@attbi_s51...
GM has a service bulletin posted somewhere on theier web page (I'll look
for
it later) that IIRC recommends direct connection at battery (right front
of
vehicle) of both pos and neg leads, both (IIRC) fused at the battery,
using
a NAPA or other side terminal extender bolt, and, IIRC, crossing to left
side at front by radiator then rearward thru firewall. I believe the OBC
is
right side near firewall, and it should be well shielded to meet non
optional part 15 requirements. Another practice I have seen recommended
elsewhere is to twist the pair of wires as they run from battery to
x-mitter, in order to reduce pickup or radiation (same concept as twisted
pairs for CAT 3 & CAT 5, mic cables, TV twinlead, ladderline, etc.)

Ferrite beads could also be applied th the power leads to attenuate any RF
that did make it out (or in), too, and may be needed elsewhere if
something
else proves noisy.

Ford states in a similar (though slightly less detailed) bulliten that
their
vehicles are designed for transmitters 100 watts output and recomments
antenna (with good quality 95% min shield coax) on roof or center of trunk
lid, but not on/near hood or front fenders, and not thru glass type for
windows w/ built in AM/FM antennas, and not near defroster lines.

GM seems to be good about screwed (vs clipped) ground braid on their
hoods.

Transmitters are a fact of life in small and large light trucks (utility,
DPW, public safety, commercial, etc. service in addition to amateur, and
full size sedans (police as well as others above).

Did hear a funny story a few years ago of a radio install that gave
nothing
but trouble when transmitter was keyed, seems they had wrapped excess
antenna coax around an available box under the dash, turned out it was
related to the computer control system, coax trimmed and relocated and end
of problem.




"KC3AK" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience putting a 2 meter rig in a Chevy S10? I
have a 2002 S10 and want to put my 2M rig in it, but the service
department either can not or will not tell me if it will interfere with
the onboard computer. The only thing they would say is to connect it
directly to the battery. Like I wouldn't do that anyway! Any
experience, either positive OR negative, would be a help.
Thanks,
Terry