http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.

On 9/27/2011 5:50 AM, dave wrote:
http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.

This is the first I have heard of it!

I really can't imagine a moron/idiot/imbecile/etc. stoopid enough to
purchase it, but they keep coming out with upgrades daily, it seems, not
of hardware -- but I mean MORONS!

Like nancy said, just say NO!

We used to do free classes in installing/using Linux, I have
participated in many on the local Jr. college campuses here ... I guess
that has been stopped? Time to re-start that! With Ubuntu any windows
idiot can use linux ... immediately, out of the box! And, not only is
it just as good (except for most games, but then you can usually wine
the older ones), it is fooking free!

Regards,
JS

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Windows+8+secure+boot+would+'exclude'+L inux

Oh, really?

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On Sep 28, 2:28*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/27/2011 5:50 AM, dave wrote:

http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.

This is the first I have heard of it!

I really can't imagine a moron/idiot/imbecile/etc. stoopid enough to
purchase it, but they keep coming out with upgrades daily, it seems, not
of hardware -- but I mean MORONS!

Like nancy said, just say NO!

We used to do free classes in installing/using Linux, I have
participated in many on the local Jr. college campuses here ... I guess
that has been stopped? *Time to re-start that! *With Ubuntu any windows
idiot can use linux ... immediately, out of the box! *And, not only is
it just as good (except for most games, but then you can usually wine
the older ones), it is fooking free!

Regards,
JS

Biotin can be useful for venereal disease.

"Frisbieinstein" wrote in message
...

Biotin can be useful for venereal disease.

Well..
We're happy that it worked for you.

But, next time, use a condom when you have contact with a "professional"..
It will reduce the chances of re-infection..

On Oct 6, 8:34*am, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"Frisbieinstein" wrote in message

...



Biotin can be useful for venereal disease.

Well..
We're happy that it worked for you.

- But, next time, use a condom when you
- have contact with a "professional"..
- It will reduce the chances of re-infection..

The Statistics usually show that the so-called
'professionals' insist on and use 'condoms'
much more often then the "amateurs" {free-love}
-aka- pick-ups, hook-ups, friends, booty-calls...

'Safe Sex' -is- "Safe Sex" -so- Practice It 24/7 [.]

~ RHF

On 10/6/2011 7:31 AM, Frisbieinstein wrote:
On Sep 28, 2:28 am, John wrote:
On 9/27/2011 5:50 AM, dave wrote:

http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.

This is the first I have heard of it!

I really can't imagine a moron/idiot/imbecile/etc. stoopid enough to
purchase it, but they keep coming out with upgrades daily, it seems, not
of hardware -- but I mean MORONS!

Like nancy said, just say NO!

We used to do free classes in installing/using Linux, I have
participated in many on the local Jr. college campuses here ... I guess
that has been stopped? Time to re-start that! With Ubuntu any windows
idiot can use linux ... immediately, out of the box! And, not only is
it just as good (except for most games, but then you can usually wine
the older ones), it is fooking free!

Regards,
JS

Biotin can be useful for venereal disease.

Gesus man! Don't endanger your life! Keep clear of the stuff ...

Regards,
JS

dave wrote in
news
http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.


So if I format a hard disk with the disk manufacturer's low level format
routine and exterminate every bit on the platters exactly how they gonna do
that?

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

On 10/6/2011 7:43 AM, Gray Guest wrote:
wrote in
news
http://www.networkworld.com/communit...t-turn-secure-
boot-red-hat-warns

Users who buy systems that ship with no way to turn secure boot off, and
only Microsoft's key installed, will not be able to load Linux or any
other non-Microsoft operating system. Users who buy systems that allow
secure boot to be disabled, but only Microsoft's key installed, will have
to give up the rootkit protection secure boot offers if they want to run
unsigned operating systems or drivers.

Again, enterprise IT professionals should let their OEMs know that they
want the choice and control in their own hands, and not in the operating
system vendor's. You shouldn't have to give up the benefits of secure
boot to have authority over your own fleet of PCs.


So if I format a hard disk with the disk manufacturer's low level format
routine and exterminate every bit on the platters exactly how they gonna do
that?

Hardware key on motherboard. Hard disk?

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