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Old June 15th 04, 08:03 PM
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On a typical 25 watt 2 meter setup, how much voltage would there be on
the end of a 1/4 antenna?


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25 watts into a 1/4-wave vertical antenna on 2 meters -

Base current about 0.82 amps into 37 ohms,

Volts about 160, measured (if you can) at top of antenna across about 1000
ohms.

Things vary slowly with length-to-diameter ratio of the antenna conductor.

As conductor diameter increases, volts at the end tend to decrease.
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"Bob Glenn" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:03:24 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
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"Bob Glenn" wrote in message
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On a typical 25 watt 2 meter setup, how much voltage would there be on
the end of a 1/4 antenna?


==============================

25 watts into a 1/4-wave vertical antenna on 2 meters -

Base current about 0.82 amps into 37 ohms,

Volts about 160, measured (if you can) at top of antenna across about

1000
ohms.

Things vary slowly with length-to-diameter ratio of the antenna

conductor.

As conductor diameter increases, volts at the end tend to decrease.
----
Reg, G4FGQ


Thank you, 1,000 is the accepted value then?


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You can please yourself what the accepted value is.

But on the 2 meter band about 1000 ohms is what it actually is.

On the lower frequency bands it runs into several thousand ohms.

As I said, it's a slowly moving function of antenna length-to-diameter
ratio.

But it doesn't matter very much anyway. No need to make a fuss about it.
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Reg.


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"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
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"Bob Glenn" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:03:24 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:


"Bob Glenn" wrote in message
news.com...
On a typical 25 watt 2 meter setup, how much voltage would there be

on
the end of a 1/4 antenna?

==============================

25 watts into a 1/4-wave vertical antenna on 2 meters -

Base current about 0.82 amps into 37 ohms,

Volts about 160, measured (if you can) at top of antenna across about

1000
ohms.

Things vary slowly with length-to-diameter ratio of the antenna

conductor.

As conductor diameter increases, volts at the end tend to decrease.
----
Reg, G4FGQ


Thank you, 1,000 is the accepted value then?


===========================

You can please yourself what the accepted value is.

But on the 2 meter band about 1000 ohms is what it actually is.

On the lower frequency bands it runs into several thousand ohms.

As I said, it's a slowly moving function of antenna length-to-diameter
ratio.

But it doesn't matter very much anyway. No need to make a fuss about it.
===
Reg.


That's our Reg, spot on.
Remember, V=Q/C, where V is voltage, Q charge and C capacitance.
73
H.
NQ5H


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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:44:07 GMT, Bob Glenn
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Thank you, 1,000 is the accepted value then?


Hi Bob,

It was derived from a contrivance of math that ignores the loss of
radiation resistance. After all, the antenna doesn't exist in a
vacuum, and if it did, it would still be surrounded by a medium
shorting it out to the tune of 377Ohms.

It's enough to allow that it will bite (the voltage) if you contact it
in equally contrived circumstances. Put an NE-2 neon bulb at the end
of the antenna to confirm ionizing voltage (60-90V at least). CBers
used to do that with their whips with just 5W.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:44:07 GMT, Bob Glenn
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Thank you, 1,000 is the accepted value then?


Hi Bob,

It was derived from a contrivance of math that ignores the loss of
radiation resistance. After all, the antenna doesn't exist in a
vacuum, and if it did, it would still be surrounded by a medium
shorting it out to the tune of 377Ohms.

It's enough to allow that it will bite (the voltage) if you contact it
in equally contrived circumstances. Put an NE-2 neon bulb at the end
of the antenna to confirm ionizing voltage (60-90V at least). CBers
used to do that with their whips with just 5W.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


And some of us remember before CB.
sigh


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