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Old July 7th 03, 06:14 AM
Maximo Lachman
 
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Default FCC website crashed 30.v by concerned citizens

according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.
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Old July 7th 03, 02:04 PM
Doug Smith W9WI
 
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Maximo Lachman wrote:
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.


I've seen this story posted in several forums. And it brings up a question:

How many people are actually listening to the radio in Minot, North
Dakota at 1:30 in the morning??? Will I need *both* hands to count them?

Even if there *had* been people at the Minot radio stations, and they'd
promptly aired the warning, virtually nobody would have heard it.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

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Old July 7th 03, 03:36 PM
David Eduardo
 
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"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
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Maximo Lachman wrote:
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.


I've seen this story posted in several forums. And it brings up a

question:

How many people are actually listening to the radio in Minot, North
Dakota at 1:30 in the morning??? Will I need *both* hands to count them?

Even if there *had* been people at the Minot radio stations, and they'd
promptly aired the warning, virtually nobody would have heard it.


Even more crucial to the argument, no one in government knew how to activate
the EAS system, which would have made an automatic insertion of the warning
on all stations possible.

The stations were there and on the air with a system, EAS, at the ready. The
authorities had no clue how to use it.

And you are right. Nationally, at that hour, less than a half-percent of the
population is listening to the radio. What good would an announcement have
done anyway?


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Old July 7th 03, 02:09 PM
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Maximo Lachman wrote:

according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


I rather doubt it has anything to do with Clear Channel, or any other
large media operator. The truth is, many overnight operations are
automated.






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Old July 7th 03, 02:40 PM
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Maximo Lachman wrote:

according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


Scenario:

Maximo Lachman (whiny Canadian by profession), wakes up on July 7, 2003.
Realises it's a slow news day, and he has nothing to bitch about. Hit's
Google, and drags up a story from January, 2002. Bingo!

Instant Canadian rant....

What a ****in retard...

Did you try to emigrate to the USA and get turned away Maximo?




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Old July 7th 03, 03:42 PM
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"Maximo Lachman" wrote in message
...
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


A. Less than a half-percent of Americans are listening to the radio at that
hour... in a small town, probably next to nobody.
B. The authorities had the ability to activate the EAS, and get a message on
the air from a central point. No one in local government thought to do this.
C. Most radio stations have been automated or are using syndicated fare in
overnights as of the 70's. The main reason for being on the air overnight in
most markets is to keep from having equipment failures at the beginning of
prime morning drive time.
D. Even before the 70's, many stations ran music with a board operator, not
an announcer.


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Old July 7th 03, 05:14 PM
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"David Eduardo" ) writes:
"Maximo Lachman" wrote
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser


A. Less than a half-percent of Americans are listening to the radio at that
hour... in a small town, probably next to nobody.
B. The authorities had the ability to activate the EAS, and get a message on
the air from a central point. No one in local government thought to do this.
C. Most radio stations have been automated or are using syndicated fare in
overnights as of the 70's. The main reason for being on the air overnight in
most markets is to keep from having equipment failures at the beginning of
prime morning drive time.
D. Even before the 70's, many stations ran music with a board operator, not
an announcer.


You're missing the point of the quote, which is that paksplace likes to
use and/or cite rabble-rousing articles to get people motivated, and if
they had as significant an effect on crashing the FCC website as they
claimed, then their tactics seem to work. At least you didn't go shoot
me as if I had written the piece by Eli Pariser, Zionist extra-ordinaire.
No doubt the Yankistani boot-camp trained psychopaths on the NG will also
blame me for having to pay more taxes for federally funded programmes,
regulation and public services like EBS.
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Old July 18th 03, 04:48 AM
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ML,

Hey, may be everyone in town should have been given a 'free'
Bell&Howell Shortwave Radio so that Washington DC could have broadcast
a "Special Alert" via shortwave directly to them.

What happen to the good old days to Alert the People of the Town:
* The Towns 'Civil Defense' Warning Siren would sound.
* Fire Station Bells and Sirens would Sound a Warning.
* Church Bells would Ring and Sound a Warning.
* Telephones would Ring as Neigbors and Families Passed the Word of
Warning.
* The Police Cars, Fire Trucks and others would simply drive down the
street with their sirens on and lights flashing to wake the people.

BUY NO . . .
We Have to Blame It All on the Evil FCC (Bad Government)
- - - and the equally Evil Clear Channel Communications (Big Business)

Honestly, it would appear that the Town of Minot needs to have an
Election and put public officials into office who know how to run a
'safe' little town properly.


NOTE: Looks like the two North Dakota Senators and Congressman under 8
years of President Bill Clinton did not diliver the goods.
- Kent Conrad, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Byron Dorgan, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Earl Pomeroy, Democrat - US Representative At Large - North Dakota.


Balanced Government is Good Government [.]
- A One Party System is Not Good Government.
- - A One Party System is About Maintaining the Political Power of the
Party.
- - - A One Party System is Inherently Corrupt.


The View from the Lower 48 ~ RHF
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according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.



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