Hi all,

I recently suffered a back injury while mountain biking in the
woods,fortunately we had a cell phone and were able to call 911 for
medical help. Now that I am home and recuperating, I have been
wondering what cell phone alternatives are available for use in remote
areas where you may not have a cell signal. I have been looking at the
fRS/gmrs radios and see that some are now "boasting" 10 mile ranges,
however I realize this is optimal clear line of sight conditions which
is rarely the case. My other thought is to get a technicians class ham
license and possibly purchase a small hand held radio to carry with
me. I have seen some really small units from Alinco listed in the
Monitoring Times Magazine, would this be a more practical solution? I
really don't know what type of radios and range you are allowed to
work on a tech license and as I am thinking of using this for
emergency use I would like to hear your suggestions.

Thanks in Advance


Bob

Hi Bob:

First, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Keep in shape as much as you can
whilst recovering; that'll probably help your back to heal.

As to what Emergency Radio to use; well, my Wife & I use the little FSR radios;
and several
Hike leaders I know use the " 5 Mile" Motorola models.

That will help you stay in touch with one another over short distances.

If your really in trouble; having a Cell phone that can get to a repeater is
the only choice I've heard of .
But if there's no repeater, or it's winter & the batteries die, or your so
badly hurt you can't operate a cell phone, then its not much use.

Other people say a VHF radio is the way to go; then again, can your VHF signal
get to someone on the receiving end..

Best bet is to travel in numbers, plan what your doing before you do it, take a
good first aid course, have some medical supplies with you and be Real careful
out in the woods.

If someone's badly hurt, they'll go into shock fairly rapidly, and will need
many other people to help apply first aid, keep them warm , build a stretcher,
& then stretcher them out to an ambulance;

Just my 2 cents worth.

Dan


In article ,
(Bob) writes:


Hi all,

I recently suffered a back injury while mountain biking in the
woods,fortunately we had a cell phone and were able to call 911 for
medical help. Now that I am home and recuperating, I have been
wondering what cell phone alternatives are available for use in remote
areas where you may not have a cell signal. I have been looking at the
fRS/gmrs radios and see that some are now "boasting" 10 mile ranges,
however I realize this is optimal clear line of sight conditions which
is rarely the case. My other thought is to get a technicians class ham
license and possibly purchase a small hand held radio to carry with
me. I have seen some really small units from Alinco listed in the
Monitoring Times Magazine, would this be a more practical solution? I
really don't know what type of radios and range you are allowed to
work on a tech license and as I am thinking of using this for
emergency use I would like to hear your suggestions.

Thanks in Advance


Bob

Yes. a handheld would work fine. As long as their was a repeater you could
hit. Just about everywhere their is.

Bill, N5NOB

On 5 Jan 2004 08:34:30 -0800, (Bob) wrote:

Hi all,

I recently suffered a back injury while mountain biking in the
woods,fortunately we had a cell phone and were able to call 911 for
medical help. Now that I am home and recuperating, I have been
wondering what cell phone alternatives are available for use in remote
areas where you may not have a cell signal.
There are two or three (if you live in NOrth America), although
calling them cell phones varies from a slight stretch to a big one.
The Iridium phone works almost anywhere, but you definitely pay for
the privledge, although it isn't a lot larger than a sat phone.

Then there are brief case phones that use the Inmarsat spot beams.
They weigh a few pounds, and will also work almost anywhere in the
world.

Within the USA, I beliver Amerisat sell phones that provide coverage
only in the lower 48.

However if you are really concerned, for about $850 you can buy an GPS
enabled EPIRB. You set that thing off, and in about 5 minutes alarm
bells start going off, and within 20 minutes, your position is known
+/1 about 35 feet, and the fact that you need help is also known. You
can expect a Search and REscue Helicopter to come after you within an
hour. (At this time 406Mhz EPRIB's are legal for land use in the
USA). The McMurdo FastFind Plus weighs about a much as a cell phone
can be carried on a lanyard around your neck.



I have been looking at the
fRS/gmrs radios and see that some are now "boasting" 10 mile ranges,
however I realize this is optimal clear line of sight conditions which
is rarely the case. My other thought is to get a technicians class ham
license and possibly purchase a small hand held radio to carry with
me. I have seen some really small units from Alinco listed in the
Monitoring Times Magazine, would this be a more practical solution? I
really don't know what type of radios and range you are allowed to
work on a tech license and as I am thinking of using this for
emergency use I would like to hear your suggestions.

Thanks in Advance


Bob

I really don't know what type of radios and range you are allowed to work on
a tech license and as I am thinking of using this for emergency use.

You can use anything in the VHF, UHF, and higher frequencies. Range is limited
only by your transmitter and the other's receiver. And elevation which affects
your line of sight, of course.

I recommend getting a repeater directory from ARRL and learn what repeaters
serve your mountain area(s) of interest.

Good Luck,
Bill, K5BY

There are a fair amount of 2 meter repeaters around but they in no way equal
the number of cell towers. Out in the middle of nowhere, you're more likely
to have cell coverage than you are anything else.
"Bill Hennessy" wrote in message
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Yes. a handheld would work fine. As long as their was a repeater you
could
hit. Just about everywhere their is.

Bill, N5NOB

CW wrote:

There are a fair amount of 2 meter repeaters around but they in no way equal
the number of cell towers. Out in the middle of nowhere, you're more likely
to have cell coverage than you are anything else.

More coverage than a portable CB radio?


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It would depend on where you are at. If you are in hilly country and you are
not right on the top of a tall hill, don't count on a portable CB to have
more than 1 to 2 miles range, if that. In a lot of areas, CB is virtually
nonexistent and even if there are other CBers around, they are likely to be
portable or mobile so the (lack of) height and efficiency of their antennas
are not going to help you out any. It basically comes down to what is in the
area. There has been several good suggestions on here but all or none of
them will work depending on where you are. The best bets for the most
reliable communications are the direct satellite options and even that may
well not work depending on your surroundings.
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CW wrote:

There are a fair amount of 2 meter repeaters around but they in no way
equal
the number of cell towers. Out in the middle of nowhere, you're more
likely
to have cell coverage than you are anything else.

More coverage than a portable CB radio?


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Not a bad idea if your way out on your own...
Link to more info..

http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/emerbcns.html

Don't know who eventually pays for the rescue costs..
You'd probably need extra insurance for that.


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Then there are brief case phones that use the Inmarsat spot beams.
They weigh a few pounds, and will also work almost anywhere in the
world.

Within the USA, I beliver Amerisat sell phones that provide coverage
only in the lower 48.

However if you are really concerned, for about $850 you can buy an GPS
enabled EPIRB. You set that thing off, and in about 5 minutes alarm
bells start going off, and within 20 minutes, your position is known
+/1 about 35 feet, and the fact that you need help is also known. You
can expect a Search and REscue Helicopter to come after you within an
hour. (At this time 406Mhz EPRIB's are legal for land use in the
USA). The McMurdo FastFind Plus weighs about a much as a cell phone
can be carried on a lanyard around your neck.

Hi Bob.

Before you purchase from Grove, take a good look at Universal Radio and
AES. I have bought from them for 30 years each and have been quite
satisfied with their service and pricing.



Bob wrote:

Hi all,

I recently suffered a back injury while mountain biking in the
woods,fortunately we had a cell phone and were able to call 911 for
medical help. Now that I am home and recuperating, I have been
wondering what cell phone alternatives are available for use in remote
areas where you may not have a cell signal. I have been looking at the
fRS/gmrs radios and see that some are now "boasting" 10 mile ranges,
however I realize this is optimal clear line of sight conditions which
is rarely the case. My other thought is to get a technicians class ham
license and possibly purchase a small hand held radio to carry with
me. I have seen some really small units from Alinco listed in the
Monitoring Times Magazine, would this be a more practical solution? I
really don't know what type of radios and range you are allowed to
work on a tech license and as I am thinking of using this for
emergency use I would like to hear your suggestions.

Thanks in Advance

Bob