Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 03:10 PM
cooltube
 
Posts: n/a
Default FA: DIPOLE KIT FOR 40-10mtrs>Real Copper wire & Ceramic NR

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT


  #2   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 03:38 PM
dxAce
 
Posts: n/a
Default



cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT


As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


  #3   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 04:58 PM
yea right
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:



cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT


As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan


Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a few
years of constant tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough and robust.
I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is the thin copper wire that servers as
a safety ground and as a safety wire in case a link in the lamp chain
breaks in hanging chandeliers.
  #4   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 05:15 PM
David
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Sun, 08 May 2005 09:58:48 -0600, yea right wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:



cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT


As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan


Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a few
years of constant tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough and robust.
I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is the thin copper wire that servers as
a safety ground and as a safety wire in case a link in the lamp chain
breaks in hanging chandeliers.


I have 50' of thin braided copper wire from Home Depot that's been
under constant tension for 6 years 9 months. Enough tension to
deflect the top of a 20' support (two fence rails, a spike base and a
building clamp at 9') 2 to 3 inches.

  #6   Report Post  
Old May 10th 05, 11:58 PM
I AmnotGeorgeBush
 
Posts: n/a
Default

From: (yea=A0right)
On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:
cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0986208&ss P=
ageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan

Hahaha..

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw
and will break after a few years of constant


tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough


and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is


the thin copper wire that servers as a safety


ground and as a safety wire in case a link in


the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers.


Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

  #7   Report Post  
Old May 11th 05, 01:39 AM
Jim Hampton
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (yea right)
On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:
cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan

Hahaha..

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw
and will break after a few years of constant


tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough


and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is


the thin copper wire that servers as a safety


ground and as a safety wire in case a link in


the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers.


Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

Strap is better, but due to skin effect, you could copper coat steel and it
would work as well for rf as solid copper. Hmmmm .... come to think of it,
they do make that stuff.

I used to use 8 gauge copper wire for my longwire antenna. Despite being
held by several trees and anchored at the house, nothing ever brought it
down. Nothing like a *lot* of copper. Come to think of it, it was several
hundred feet long and worked gangbusterly on 160 as well as the other bands.
25 watts and I was solid pretty much across the country at night; during the
daytime, I still pounded into Washington D.C. from Rochester, NY using 65
watts. That was on 160. 15 and 20 meters and 75 watts worked the world
with no problem - other than the fact that the pattern of that antenna was
real strange. I never got more than a fair report from England, but Norway,
Sweden, and Denmark would always give me a report of a very strong signal.
Same with Italy.

Regardless, I'd never use anything as light as 18 gauge wire for anything.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


  #8   Report Post  
Old May 11th 05, 04:59 PM
I AmnotGeorgeBush
 
Posts: n/a
Default

From: (Jim=A0Hampton)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
... From:
(yea right) On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce
wrote: cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0986208&ss P=
ageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan
_
Hahaha..

(Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a
few years of constant
tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough
and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is
the thin copper wire that servers as a safety
ground and as a safety wire in case a link in
the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers. )



Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

Strap is better, but due to skin effect, you


could copper coat steel and it would work as


well for rf as solid copper.




Skin effect changes the inductance value to equal that of copper strap?

Hmmmm .... come to think of it, they do make
that stuff.


I used to use 8 gauge copper wire for my


longwire antenna. Despite being held by


several trees and anchored at the house,


nothing ever brought it down. Nothing like a


*lot* of copper. Come to think of it, it was


several hundred feet long and worked


gangbusterly on 160 as well as the other


bands. 25 watts and I was solid pretty much


across the country at night; during the


daytime, I still pounded into Washington D.C.


from Rochester, NY using 65 watts. That was


on 160. 15 and 20 meters and 75 watts


worked the world with no problem - other than


the fact that the pattern of that antenna was


real strange. I never got more than a fair


report from England, but Norway, Sweden,


and Denmark would always give me a report


of a very strong signal. Same with Italy.


Regardless, I'd never use anything as light as


18 gauge wire for anything.




I wish I had the room and free space to play with long wires.

73 from Rochester, NY


Jim


Looks like summer is on the way for you guys. Enjoy.

  #9   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 03:42 PM
David
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Sun, 8 May 2005 10:10:10 -0400, "cooltube"
wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT


That wire looks really fragile. Can you do it in steel? Braided
copper?

  #10   Report Post  
Old May 8th 05, 07:31 PM
Beau
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Would be a real deal if you would keep the cheap STEEL plastic coated wire
and just offer the insulators alone.....I like the wire ties you have on the
wire....made for tying reinforcment steel in concrete.....so is the cheap
antenna wire you offer with the insulators.

a BAAAAAAAD deal!


"cooltube" wrote in message
...
No Bids @$10, gotta see.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT






Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FA: DIPOLE KIT FOR 40-10mtrs>Real Copper wire & Ceramic NR cooltube Equipment 10 May 17th 05 07:41 PM
FA: DIPOLE KIT FOR 40-10mtrs>Real Copper wire & Ceramic NR [email protected] Equipment 0 April 30th 05 05:56 PM
Antenna Suggestions and Lightning Protection § Dr. Artaud § Shortwave 71 April 26th 05 04:14 PM
Is this voltage doubler different? Mike Silva Homebrew 16 February 2nd 05 06:14 PM
Two Shortwave Listener (SWL) 10:1 Baluns for Random Wire Antennas RHF Swap 0 October 6th 04 09:51 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017