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Old December 3rd 03, 05:26 PM
Henry Kolesnik
 
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I just got the Xmas Radio Shack catalog and on page 3 there's an electric
corkscrew powered by 4 AA batteries. I havent seen one yet but I wonder if
it could be the basis of a "Corkscrew Antenna" to compete with the
screwdriver antenna?
hank wd5jfr

Someone once said ; "I love to cook with wine, somtimes I even use it in the
recipe."


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Old December 3rd 03, 08:30 PM
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Henry Kolesnik wrote:

I just got the Xmas Radio Shack catalog and on page 3 there's an electric
corkscrew powered by 4 AA batteries. I havent seen one yet but I wonder if
it could be the basis of a "Corkscrew Antenna" to compete with the
screwdriver antenna?
hank wd5jfr

Someone once said ; "I love to cook with wine, somtimes I even use it in the
recipe."



YEAH! for 1.2 Gig? Maybe phase a couple?
Mind boggling!
'Doc
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Old December 3rd 03, 08:35 PM
Richard Harrison
 
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Henry Kolesnik wrote:
"---I wonder if it (battery-powered corkscrew) could be the basis of a
"Corkscrew Antenna" to compete with the screwdriver antenna?"

We should consult Kraus, the developer of most of those helical
antennas.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Old December 7th 03, 02:48 AM
Reg Edwards
 
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Dear OM Rich,

I have no wish to be unkind but who the hell is Kraus ?

Of what particular sect is HE the Saviour?

99.999 percent of radio amateurs, either cannot afford to obtain such
academic works, or have no chance of getting their hands on unsmudged copies
within the next 10 years by which time they will have lost all interest, or,
in any case, of ever understanding what the highly impractical authors are
waffling about.


As for other educational sources, this newsgroup is amongst the most
efficient sources of dis-information ever invented.


Have you ever read any of Bertrand Russels's philosophical works on Logic.
I havn't!


But radio is just another hobby. For a few years I gazed expectantly at
Guppies in tropical fish tanks. There was an extended period of being a TN
(Telescope Nuts). Home-brewed 8" Newtonian mirrors and such stuff.


Incidentally, at Chance's Glass Works from where I obtained my mirror
blanks, 2 miles from where I sit at this keyboard, all the World's optical
machinery was manufactured for installation in lighthouses still saving the
lives for 100 years of many thousands of international mariners and
fishermen.. At a distance of 3 miles the world's first iron-hulled steamship
was made. At distance of 1.5 miles were forged the many giant links of the
anchor chains of the Transatlantic Queens Mary and Elizabeth. Underneath the
foundations of this house is a flooded mine which was exhausted of coal 75
years ago. Local coal and limestone was used in the blast furnces to produce
millions of tons molten iron. At a distance of 4 miles remain the hallowed
walls of the factory within which Boulton and Watt constructed the first of
hundreds of giant condensing steam engines to drive not just local factories
but world-wide heavy industrial machinery, textile mills, mine lifts, and
land irrigation pumps. In the Birmingham Science Museum is a steam hammer,
the life expectancy of the operators being about 2 years. At a distance of
4 miles is the more recent laboratory at Birmingham (the original)
University where, under the nightly rain of incendiaries and
high-explosives, Randall and Boot constructed the original 50 KW, 3000 Mc/s,
Pulsed Cavity Magnetron. Churchill was obliged to swap it for bunch of
pre-WW1 rusty destroyers plus several minor colonies of the British Empire.
We wuz robbed. The Earth's crust in these parts is the thinnest anywhere on
Earth. This house is on the slopes of Rowley Hills, a long extinct volcano,
the granite of which (renowned as Rowley Rag) is the world's finest
road-making material. Engineers of the disciplined Roman Legions first
recognised its durability 2000 years ago. Thousands of tons of Rag are still
blasted, crushed, graded and conveyed away to distant parts every day. We
survive in the midst of the dusty, soot-blackened, tainted, remains of
History!


Talking of volcanos, when is Yellowstone, much bigger than Crakatoa, due to
take off?


However, perhaps after occasionally doing something useful, it will be found
that Internet entertainment, amusement and verbal newsgroup sporting
activities form worthwhile passtimes. When our obese stomachs have been
thrice-each-day distended, and the roof doesn't leak, room temperature is a
comfortable 25 degrees C, the G5RV is in working order, and there's a
month's supply of Viagra in the medicine cabinet conveniently mounted on the
bathroom wall, why should we not sit back and enjoy ouselves in the short
time still available to the human race as Armageddon visibly progresses by
every news bulletin?

By the way, on the subject of analysing antenna performance in the rather
obvious terms of transmission lines, has it occurred to anybody to ask what
is Zo = Ro+jXo of a magloop? Or am I just a Troll?

As a confirmed addict to lemonade, tonight I am thinning down the wicked
stuff with Scotch.
----
Reg, G4FGQ

======================================

"Richard Harrison" wrote -
Henry Kolesnik wrote:
"---I wonder if it (battery-powered corkscrew) could be the basis of a
"Corkscrew Antenna" to compete with the screwdriver antenna?"

We should consult Kraus, the developer of most of those helical
antennas.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI



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Old December 7th 03, 03:21 AM
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Reg Edwards wrote:
Dear OM Rich,

I have no wish to be unkind but who the hell is Kraus ?


Darned if I know!

Of what particular sect is HE the Saviour?

99.999 percent of radio amateurs, either cannot afford to obtain such
academic works, or have no chance of getting their hands on unsmudged copies
within the next 10 years by which time they will have lost all interest, or,
in any case, of ever understanding what the highly impractical authors are
waffling about.


As for other educational sources, this newsgroup is amongst the most
efficient sources of dis-information ever invented.


Is that the same as B.S?


Have you ever read any of Bertrand Russels's philosophical works on Logic.
I havn't!


But radio is just another hobby. For a few years I gazed expectantly at
Guppies in tropical fish tanks. There was an extended period of being a TN
(Telescope Nuts). Home-brewed 8" Newtonian mirrors and such stuff.


Ahh, another thing we have in common! I enjoy making telescopes. I've
made a 12.5 inch and a 6.5 inch reflector. Great hobby, but the skies
are so often cloudy, so I found amateur radio.

Incidentally, at Chance's Glass Works from where I obtained my mirror
blanks, 2 miles from where I sit at this keyboard, all the World's optical
machinery was manufactured for installation in lighthouses still saving the
lives for 100 years of many thousands of international mariners and
fishermen.. At a distance of 3 miles the world's first iron-hulled steamship
was made. At distance of 1.5 miles were forged the many giant links of the
anchor chains of the Transatlantic Queens Mary and Elizabeth. Underneath the
foundations of this house is a flooded mine which was exhausted of coal 75
years ago. Local coal and limestone was used in the blast furnces to produce
millions of tons molten iron. At a distance of 4 miles remain the hallowed
walls of the factory within which Boulton and Watt constructed the first of
hundreds of giant condensing steam engines to drive not just local factories
but world-wide heavy industrial machinery, textile mills, mine lifts, and
land irrigation pumps. In the Birmingham Science Museum is a steam hammer,
the life expectancy of the operators being about 2 years. At a distance of
4 miles is the more recent laboratory at Birmingham (the original)
University where, under the nightly rain of incendiaries and
high-explosives, Randall and Boot constructed the original 50 KW, 3000 Mc/s,
Pulsed Cavity Magnetron. Churchill was obliged to swap it for bunch of
pre-WW1 rusty destroyers plus several minor colonies of the British Empire.
We wuz robbed. The Earth's crust in these parts is the thinnest anywhere on
Earth. This house is on the slopes of Rowley Hills, a long extinct volcano,
the granite of which (renowned as Rowley Rag) is the world's finest
road-making material. Engineers of the disciplined Roman Legions first
recognised its durability 2000 years ago. Thousands of tons of Rag are still
blasted, crushed, graded and conveyed away to distant parts every day. We
survive in the midst of the dusty, soot-blackened, tainted, remains of
History!


Talking of volcanos, when is Yellowstone, much bigger than Crakatoa, due to
take off?


Could be any time! Did you know that as the earth's crust moves over the
hot spot, the volcano moves south and east? If you ever get the chance
go there. Perhaps the weirdest beautiful place on earth.



However, perhaps after occasionally doing something useful, it will be found
that Internet entertainment, amusement and verbal newsgroup sporting
activities form worthwhile passtimes. When our obese stomachs have been
thrice-each-day distended, and the roof doesn't leak, room temperature is a
comfortable 25 degrees C, the G5RV is in working order, and there's a
month's supply of Viagra in the medicine cabinet conveniently mounted on the
bathroom wall, why should we not sit back and enjoy ouselves in the short
time still available to the human race as Armageddon visibly progresses by
every news bulletin?


Yeah, but you don't have to be so cheerful about it! grin


By the way, on the subject of analysing antenna performance in the rather
obvious terms of transmission lines, has it occurred to anybody to ask what
is Zo = Ro+jXo of a magloop? Or am I just a Troll?

As a confirmed addict to lemonade, tonight I am thinning down the wicked
stuff with Scotch.


ARG, ruining good lemonade like that! But then I'm not fond of Scotch -
the drink - the people are just fine.

- Mike KB3EIA -



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Old December 7th 03, 03:24 AM
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Reg wrote,
(snip)

As a confirmed addict to lemonade, tonight I am thinning down the wicked
stuff with Scotch.
----
Reg, G4FGQ


You put lemonade in good Scotch Whiskey? Aren't you
afraid of being lynched by your neighbors?
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


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Old December 7th 03, 04:12 AM
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Tdonaly wrote:
Reg wrote,
(snip)

As a confirmed addict to lemonade, tonight I am thinning down the wicked
stuff with Scotch.
----
Reg, G4FGQ



You put lemonade in good Scotch Whiskey? Aren't you
afraid of being lynched by your neighbors?
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


I won't even put one ice cube in Scotch!!

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Old December 7th 03, 05:08 AM
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Reg Edwards wrote:
I have no wish to be unkind but who the hell is Kraus ?


The inventor of the helical beam antenna and the corner reflector
antenna. The McDougal Chair Professor of EE, Emeritus, Ohio State U.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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Old December 7th 03, 05:16 AM
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Reg, G4FGQ wrote:
"---who the hell is Kraus?"

I asked the same question long ago because his contributions were not
directly a part of the curriculum where I studied.. They should have
been.

John D. Kraus is an Emeritus Professor of Electrical Engineering and
Astronomy at Ohio State University. His amateur call sign is W8JK which
is also the name given to a family of antennas, which are just one of
the types he invented.

If I were limited to only one book devoted solely to antennas, "Antennas
For All Applications" by John D. Kraus and Ronald J. Marhefka would be
my choice.

My daughter gave me a copy in July. In August when I was visiting her in
London during the record breaking heat wave which killed so many
chickens in France, I looked out the window of her air conditioned flat
and spied one of Kraus` helical antennas on a rooftop just across the
street. I`m sure many Brits are familiar with Kraus. McGraw-Hill is the
publisher of his book.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


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Old December 7th 03, 05:25 AM
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Kraus is John D. Kraus (W8JK) PHD EE, Ohio State University. Inventor of
the Helical antenna, and in general considered the ultimate guru of antenna
theory and practice (I know others have their fans). His book "Antennas" is
considered the bible of antenna work. Go to your nearest college with an
Electrical Engineering Dept. They are using it as a text book. Kraus is
far from impractical, he is a ham like us.

73,
Joe


"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
Dear OM Rich,

I have no wish to be unkind but who the hell is Kraus ?

Of what particular sect is HE the Saviour?

99.999 percent of radio amateurs, either cannot afford to obtain such
academic works, or have no chance of getting their hands on unsmudged

copies
within the next 10 years by which time they will have lost all interest,

or,
in any case, of ever understanding what the highly impractical authors are
waffling about.


As for other educational sources, this newsgroup is amongst the most
efficient sources of dis-information ever invented.


Have you ever read any of Bertrand Russels's philosophical works on Logic.
I havn't!


But radio is just another hobby. For a few years I gazed expectantly at
Guppies in tropical fish tanks. There was an extended period of being a

TN
(Telescope Nuts). Home-brewed 8" Newtonian mirrors and such stuff.


Incidentally, at Chance's Glass Works from where I obtained my mirror
blanks, 2 miles from where I sit at this keyboard, all the World's optical
machinery was manufactured for installation in lighthouses still saving

the
lives for 100 years of many thousands of international mariners and
fishermen.. At a distance of 3 miles the world's first iron-hulled

steamship
was made. At distance of 1.5 miles were forged the many giant links of the
anchor chains of the Transatlantic Queens Mary and Elizabeth. Underneath

the
foundations of this house is a flooded mine which was exhausted of coal 75
years ago. Local coal and limestone was used in the blast furnces to

produce
millions of tons molten iron. At a distance of 4 miles remain the hallowed
walls of the factory within which Boulton and Watt constructed the first

of
hundreds of giant condensing steam engines to drive not just local

factories
but world-wide heavy industrial machinery, textile mills, mine lifts, and
land irrigation pumps. In the Birmingham Science Museum is a steam hammer,
the life expectancy of the operators being about 2 years. At a distance

of
4 miles is the more recent laboratory at Birmingham (the original)
University where, under the nightly rain of incendiaries and
high-explosives, Randall and Boot constructed the original 50 KW, 3000

Mc/s,
Pulsed Cavity Magnetron. Churchill was obliged to swap it for bunch of
pre-WW1 rusty destroyers plus several minor colonies of the British

Empire.
We wuz robbed. The Earth's crust in these parts is the thinnest anywhere

on
Earth. This house is on the slopes of Rowley Hills, a long extinct

volcano,
the granite of which (renowned as Rowley Rag) is the world's finest
road-making material. Engineers of the disciplined Roman Legions first
recognised its durability 2000 years ago. Thousands of tons of Rag are

still
blasted, crushed, graded and conveyed away to distant parts every day. We
survive in the midst of the dusty, soot-blackened, tainted, remains of
History!


Talking of volcanos, when is Yellowstone, much bigger than Crakatoa, due

to
take off?


However, perhaps after occasionally doing something useful, it will be

found
that Internet entertainment, amusement and verbal newsgroup sporting
activities form worthwhile passtimes. When our obese stomachs have been
thrice-each-day distended, and the roof doesn't leak, room temperature is

a
comfortable 25 degrees C, the G5RV is in working order, and there's a
month's supply of Viagra in the medicine cabinet conveniently mounted on

the
bathroom wall, why should we not sit back and enjoy ouselves in the short
time still available to the human race as Armageddon visibly progresses by
every news bulletin?

By the way, on the subject of analysing antenna performance in the rather
obvious terms of transmission lines, has it occurred to anybody to ask

what
is Zo = Ro+jXo of a magloop? Or am I just a Troll?

As a confirmed addict to lemonade, tonight I am thinning down the wicked
stuff with Scotch.
----
Reg, G4FGQ

======================================

"Richard Harrison" wrote -
Henry Kolesnik wrote:
"---I wonder if it (battery-powered corkscrew) could be the basis of a
"Corkscrew Antenna" to compete with the screwdriver antenna?"

We should consult Kraus, the developer of most of those helical
antennas.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI







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