Com-spec board
 

I have what I believe to be - the Com-Spec SS - 32 board here and have no
print out for it. It uses the 107 IC - resembles the TS - 32, but has no Q2.
Any info would be much appreciated. I am trying to wire the thing up for a
radio. There "appears" to be a jumper or two missing.

I've been looking at the Com-Spec site and can't seem to find the SS-32
info. I find only find the SS-32P/PA/SMT.

Anyone have the info on this?

I can send a photo of it for better match up - if need be.

Com-spec board
 

I have what I believe to be - the Com-Spec SS - 32 board here and have
no print out for it. It uses the 107 IC - resembles the TS - 32, but
has no Q2. Any info would be much appreciated. I am trying to wire the
thing up for a radio. There "appears" to be a jumper or two missing.

I've been looking at the Com-Spec site and can't seem to find the
SS-32 info. I find only find the SS-32P/PA/SMT.

Anyone have the info on this?

I can send a photo of it for better match up - if need be.




You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm



Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

yes I "have" heard of "Google". I've not found - yet - what I'm looking for.
It keeps coming up with everything "but".

"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...


I have what I believe to be - the Com-Spec SS - 32 board here and have
no print out for it. It uses the 107 IC - resembles the TS - 32, but
has no Q2. Any info would be much appreciated. I am trying to wire the
thing up for a radio. There "appears" to be a jumper or two missing.

I've been looking at the Com-Spec site and can't seem to find the
SS-32 info. I find only find the SS-32P/PA/SMT.

Anyone have the info on this?

I can send a photo of it for better match up - if need be.




You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm



Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

I know that! I'm trying to get a copy of the "board" lay out, schematic and
hook up. As I said, this board has "A" transistor difference than the TS 32

"Ed" wrote in message
92.196...



You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

I have that page already and something isn't quite right - THAT board shows
2 ICs, mine has 3.

"Ed" wrote in message
92.196...



You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

I know that! I'm trying to get a copy of the "board" lay out,
schematic and hook up. As I said, this board has "A" transistor
difference than the TS 32


The site I gave did have a board layout and hookup. Just how different
from that board layout is your slightly older unit? One or two IC's should
not make much difference from the overall layout already cited. This is a
simple CTCSS encoder. It only has three connections to it. There are only
three pins on that board, one for Ground, one for A+, and the output
pin. There will probably be a diode right off the A+ pin, the ground pin
should be obvious if you look at the underlying traces, and the output pin
will be off notabily separate from the A+ and ground pins and should be
capacitively fed.


Ed

Com-spec board
 

You're most likely correct on that, but I was still trying to get the
"actual" schematic and whatever else I could scrounge up. I've contacted
Com-Spec. I've got the info on all their other units but this one. Amazing -
the confusion it is causing. Depending on the layout "you" forwarded -
showing 2 ICs instead of the 3 present - which I had already printed out
before your reference - and the TS 32 - which has 2 transistors and mine
only has 1 - and no - none were removed. Yeah, I had googled every hit I
could find - but couldn't find an "absolute" match to this board. It even
took me into some "ham" forums which had nothing more than chatter about
said board.

I can't wait to see their reply. Maybe they made "two" versions of the TS
32! I am not personally aware of that - but - who knows........ I mean -
their own chart indicates only (2) models used the IC on this board - yet
neither lay out that I've seen/found - seems to match up part for part! The
two models "they" claim - using this IC are - TS 32 and SS 32. Both are
obsolete (according to their records) - yet "Instruction sheets" are to be
available, which most of them "did" include board layout, schematic and
programming.

FWIW - I DO appreciate your help in this matter. I just wonder how long I
may have to wait for a reply. Some companies are pretty quick and others, I
have to wonder if they ever bother to check any e-mail! I've waited
sometimes "weeks" to get replies - if at all - from some companies. I'll
keep you posted on what I find out.


"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...


I know that! I'm trying to get a copy of the "board" lay out,
schematic and hook up. As I said, this board has "A" transistor
difference than the TS 32


The site I gave did have a board layout and hookup. Just how different
from that board layout is your slightly older unit? One or two IC's should
not make much difference from the overall layout already cited. This is
a
simple CTCSS encoder. It only has three connections to it. There are only
three pins on that board, one for Ground, one for A+, and the output
pin. There will probably be a diode right off the A+ pin, the ground pin
should be obvious if you look at the underlying traces, and the output
pin
will be off notabily separate from the A+ and ground pins and should be
capacitively fed.


Ed

Com-spec board
 

You're most likely correct on that, but I was still trying to get the
"actual" schematic and whatever else I could scrounge up. I've
contacted Com-Spec. I've got the info on all their other units but
this one. Amazing - the confusion it is causing. Depending on the
layout "you" forwarded - showing 2 ICs instead of the 3 present -
which I had already printed out before your reference - and the TS 32
- which has 2 transistors and mine only has 1 - and no - none were
removed. Yeah, I had googled every hit I could find - but couldn't
find an "absolute" match to this board. It even took me into some
"ham" forums which had nothing more than chatter about said board.
I can't wait to see their reply. Maybe they made "two" versions of the
TS 32! I am not personally aware of that - but - who knows........ I
mean - their own chart indicates only (2) models used the IC on this
board - yet neither lay out that I've seen/found - seems to match up
part for part! The two models "they" claim - using this IC are - TS 32
and SS 32. Both are obsolete (according to their records) - yet
"Instruction sheets" are to be available, which most of them "did"
include board layout, schematic and programming.

Please confirm, you are asking about an SS-32? Above, you made
mention of a TS-32..... The SS-32 is only an encoder. The TS-32 is
both encoder and decoder....



FWIW - I DO appreciate your help in this matter. I just wonder how
long I may have to wait for a reply. Some companies are pretty quick
and others, I have to wonder if they ever bother to check any e-mail!
I've waited sometimes "weeks" to get replies - if at all - from some
companies. I'll keep you posted on what I find out.

Concerning the above, be advised, I think Communications
Specialists was bought out by a larger firm. They may be slower in
getting old information because of this..... or maybe not.....

I really didn't want to do this, but I am pretty sure I have a bunch
of com-spec encoders and decoders in storage. I'll dig around sometime
tomorrow if I have the chance and see what I can dredge up.

I'll still need to know which you really are looking for.



Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

The pictures confirm my suspicions. You have been mixing apples and
oranges, so to speak. In your original post you asked for info on an SS-
32. More recently, you were talking about the TS-32. Those are two
different animals. The SS-32 is only an encoder, is physically smaller,
and missing some circuitry including an IC.

What you have is a TS-32, both encode and decodes CTCSS tones. It can
be referenced at : http://www.com-spec.com/insheet/ts32skm.pdf .

Even if you are using the decoder part of the boarad, in all likelyhood
you have no need for the missing Q2. Q1 is an output transistor for the
tone decoder.... it sinks current. One would only use Q2 if you needed to
source current ( a logic inverter function ). If you really needed it,
just stick in a cheap switching NPN like a 2N2222.

Ed K7AAT

Com-spec board
 

"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...

The pictures confirm my suspicions. You have been mixing apples and
oranges, so to speak. In your original post you asked for info on an SS-
32. More recently, you were talking about the TS-32. Those are two
different animals. The SS-32 is only an encoder, is physically smaller,
and missing some circuitry including an IC.

What you have is a TS-32, both encode and decodes CTCSS tones. It can
be referenced at : http://www.com-spec.com/insheet/ts32skm.pdf .

Even if you are using the decoder part of the boarad, in all likelyhood
you have no need for the missing Q2. Q1 is an output transistor for the
tone decoder.... it sinks current. One would only use Q2 if you needed to
source current ( a logic inverter function ). If you really needed it,
just stick in a cheap switching NPN like a 2N2222.

Ed K7AAT

After I had sent this last post with pictures, I did what I probably should
have done at the onset! I went and took a good LONG look at the board again.
In the TS 32 paperwork I have - it shows two transistors - Q1 and Q2. I
don't have the paperwork now in front of me, but I recall they are "outputs"
for the function you stated - one doing so a tad differently than the other.
Otherwise, I was able to pull out all the connections needed.

Thanks!

Com-spec board
 

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...

The pictures confirm my suspicions. You have been mixing apples and
oranges, so to speak. In your original post you asked for info on an
SS-
32. More recently, you were talking about the TS-32. Those are two
different animals. The SS-32 is only an encoder, is physically smaller,
and missing some circuitry including an IC.

What you have is a TS-32, both encode and decodes CTCSS tones. It
can
be referenced at : http://www.com-spec.com/insheet/ts32skm.pdf .

Even if you are using the decoder part of the boarad, in all
likelyhood
you have no need for the missing Q2. Q1 is an output transistor for the
tone decoder.... it sinks current. One would only use Q2 if you needed
to
source current ( a logic inverter function ). If you really needed it,
just stick in a cheap switching NPN like a 2N2222.

Ed K7AAT

After I had sent this last post with pictures, I did what I probably
should have done at the onset! I went and took a good LONG look at the
board again. In the TS 32 paperwork I have - it shows two transistors - Q1
and Q2. I don't have the paperwork now in front of me, but I recall they
are "outputs" for the function you stated - one doing so a tad differently
than the other. Otherwise, I was able to pull out all the connections
needed.

Thanks!


But still, I am curious - where the Q2 came in - in the paperwork such as
you referenced - which I already had - and the board "I" have - which
doesn't have a Q2.

Com-spec board
 

Radiosrfun wrote:
I have that page already and something isn't quite right - THAT board shows
2 ICs, mine has 3.

"Ed" wrote in message
92.196...


You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT




I have a NIB TS-32P that has 3 Ics, and 2 Transistors. I also have the
schematic, and pl setting with interface schematics for it..

Email me if interested in a copy of the manual...

Bob N9LVU

Com-spec board
 

"Robert Kubichek" wrote in message
...
Radiosrfun wrote:
I have that page already and something isn't quite right - THAT board
shows 2 ICs, mine has 3.

"Ed" wrote in message
92.196...


You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT




I have a NIB TS-32P that has 3 Ics, and 2 Transistors. I also have the
schematic, and pl setting with interface schematics for it..

Email me if interested in a copy of the manual...

Bob N9LVU

The issue is down to wondering how/why - they show "two" transistors - and
the board "I" have only has ONE (none having been removed). I know the
purpose it serves, but fail to find documentation on "that" particular
board. But- just in case I may have need, what is the price? I "might" need
to take you up on it - only because I may need a few for my project.

Lou

Com-spec board
 

The issue is down to wondering how/why - they show "two" transistors -
and the board "I" have only has ONE (none having been removed). I know
the purpose it serves, but fail to find documentation on "that"
particular board. But- just in case I may have need, what is the
price? I "might" need to take you up on it - only because I may need a
few for my project.



I am beginning to think you don't read very well. The website I listed
in my previous post includes a nice complete .pdf file of the com-spec
documentation you are asking for!


Ed

Com-spec board
 

"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...

The issue is down to wondering how/why - they show "two" transistors -
and the board "I" have only has ONE (none having been removed). I know
the purpose it serves, but fail to find documentation on "that"
particular board. But- just in case I may have need, what is the
price? I "might" need to take you up on it - only because I may need a
few for my project.



I am beginning to think you don't read very well. The website I listed
in my previous post includes a nice complete .pdf file of the com-spec
documentation you are asking for!


Ed

The same could be said to you! I HAD THAT DOCUMENTATION BEFORE "YOU"
REFERRED TO IT!
I still claim it shows a different parts lay out and the schematic differs
when tracing it out. I have figured out the wiring in so far as hooking it
up for service since I did look at "that" documentation. I am just trying to
figure out why there seems to be a discrepancy. I realize that the TS 32 as
shown has Q1 and Q2 which does a particular job - and mine only has Q1 -
with no Q2 and thus does the job of "just" the Q1 as shown of the two
transistor set up. There are some differences in jumpers made mention of in
"that" documentation "not" on "this" board - and there are a couple on
"this" board - NOT in that documentation. This isn't something to get all
"huffy" about. I thanked you for your help. If that is all you've been able
to offer - fine. I know enough about it to use it as needed. Just thought
there might be something more definitive out there.

Com-spec board
 

Radiosrfun wrote:

"Robert Kubichek" wrote in message
...

Radiosrfun wrote:

I have that page already and something isn't quite right - THAT board
shows 2 ICs, mine has 3.

"Ed" wrote in message
6.192.196...


You ever hear of Google? The very first hit for, "Comm spec ss-32"
gave me this site: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ss_32.cfm




Excuse me... I failed to add that the programming for the ss-32 is the
same as the ts-32.




Ed K7AAT



I have a NIB TS-32P that has 3 Ics, and 2 Transistors. I also have the
schematic, and pl setting with interface schematics for it..

Email me if interested in a copy of the manual...

Bob N9LVU


The issue is down to wondering how/why - they show "two" transistors - and
the board "I" have only has ONE (none having been removed). I know the
purpose it serves, but fail to find documentation on "that" particular
board. But- just in case I may have need, what is the price? I "might" need
to take you up on it - only because I may need a few for my project.

Lou


Heh, If you would like to have a scanned copy of the manual, email me with a
correct address....No charge...

bobNOSPACEn9lvuATsbcglobalPERIODnet 8-)

Bob N9LVU

Com-spec board
 

The same could be said to you! I HAD THAT DOCUMENTATION BEFORE "YOU"
REFERRED TO IT!

Considering that in your first three posts you kept saying you were
looking for schematics, I must profess that I figured you didn't have a
schematic! I know realize you're looking for a slightly different
schematic. That part wasn't clear to me. ( see more, below )


I still claim it shows a different parts lay out and the schematic
differs when tracing it out. I have figured out the wiring in so far
as hooking it up for service since I did look at "that" documentation.
I am just trying to figure out why there seems to be a discrepancy. I
realize that the TS 32 as shown has Q1 and Q2 which does a particular
job - and mine only has Q1 - with no Q2 and thus does the job of
"just" the Q1 as shown of the two transistor set up. There are some
differences in jumpers made mention of in "that" documentation "not"
on "this" board - and there are a couple on "this" board - NOT in that
documentation. This isn't something to get all "huffy" about. I
thanked you for your help. If that is all you've been able to offer -
fine. I know enough about it to use it as needed. Just thought there
might be something more definitive out there.


Sorry about the "huffyness", but when you appeared to ask a question
that I thought I had already answered, I wondered if you were
"listening". I now hear you... you know how to hook it up. No problem,
then.

As far as any differences between the unit you have and the drawing
supplied by Com-Spec... manufacturers do tend to make minor changes to
their circuits over time. The TS-32 is one product that has been in
production for many many years. Minor component changes and design
changes to enhance reliability or cut costs are not unexpected, and don't
always get updated on company website technical data.. Still, the
hookup data should be valid, which is all that most people need.

Communications Specialists Inc. does have an 800 number. Have you
tried calling them on this issue? I recall in years past that the
company was very good at customer support. Hopefully that remains the
same today. Might be worth it if you're really want info on that
slightly different board.

Ed




Ed

Com-spec board
 

"Ed" wrote in message
. 192.196...

The same could be said to you! I HAD THAT DOCUMENTATION BEFORE "YOU"
REFERRED TO IT!

Considering that in your first three posts you kept saying you were
looking for schematics, I must profess that I figured you didn't have a
schematic! I know realize you're looking for a slightly different
schematic. That part wasn't clear to me. ( see more, below )


I still claim it shows a different parts lay out and the schematic
differs when tracing it out. I have figured out the wiring in so far
as hooking it up for service since I did look at "that" documentation.
I am just trying to figure out why there seems to be a discrepancy. I
realize that the TS 32 as shown has Q1 and Q2 which does a particular
job - and mine only has Q1 - with no Q2 and thus does the job of
"just" the Q1 as shown of the two transistor set up. There are some
differences in jumpers made mention of in "that" documentation "not"
on "this" board - and there are a couple on "this" board - NOT in that
documentation. This isn't something to get all "huffy" about. I
thanked you for your help. If that is all you've been able to offer -
fine. I know enough about it to use it as needed. Just thought there
might be something more definitive out there.


Sorry about the "huffyness", but when you appeared to ask a question
that I thought I had already answered, I wondered if you were
"listening". I now hear you... you know how to hook it up. No problem,
then.

As far as any differences between the unit you have and the drawing
supplied by Com-Spec... manufacturers do tend to make minor changes to
their circuits over time. The TS-32 is one product that has been in
production for many many years. Minor component changes and design
changes to enhance reliability or cut costs are not unexpected, and don't
always get updated on company website technical data.. Still, the
hookup data should be valid, which is all that most people need.

Communications Specialists Inc. does have an 800 number. Have you
tried calling them on this issue? I recall in years past that the
company was very good at customer support. Hopefully that remains the
same today. Might be worth it if you're really want info on that
slightly different board.

Ed




Ed

Oddly enough - I e-mailed Com-Spec - and "they" don't even recognize it. I
sent them some photos of it for more clarity. I couldn't include the photos
in my initial send to "them". So, we'll see what they say once they've had a
chance to review the photos.

Thank YOU and also Robert - for all your help.

One way or another - I'm going to use the damned thing - but I "like" to
have "original" docs for anything I own.

Thanks again and Happy Holidays to you and yours - Ed and Robert.