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Richard Cranium August 9th 03 01:09 PM

radio waves
 
Rich wrote in message ...
I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich


The problem is most likely with the 100 feet of RG58. At 2.4GHz
there'll be so much loss that no signal will get to the antenna. You
need to replace it with extremely low-loss coax or hard-line.

gw August 9th 03 02:16 PM

Rich wrote in message ...
I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich


sounds like radio raunch pipe........

Dale Parfitt August 9th 03 03:33 PM



Rich wrote:

I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich


I estimate the loss of 100' of RG58 to be in the vicinity of -30dB. That means
1/1000th of your received signal makes it to the radio and 1/1000th of the
transmit signal actually gets radiated. Sure fire formula for failure. Go get
some LMR-400 or LMR-600 cable and connectors.

Dale W4OP


Dale Parfitt August 9th 03 03:33 PM



Rich wrote:

I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and transmit
careerists of the radio?


This probably a troll, but here goes:
I estimate the loss of 100' of RG58 to be in the vicinity of -30dB. That means
1/1000th of your received signal makes it to the radio and 1/1000th of the
transmit signal actually gets radiated. Sure fire formula for failure. Go get
some LMR-400 or LMR-600 cable and connectors.

Dale W4OP


Mark V. Russo August 9th 03 03:49 PM

hi, your RG58 is not a wonderful coax for those frequencies.
In fact, you should use hard line.
Way too much loss with any kind or regular coax.

good luck, Mark

Rich wrote:

I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich



August 9th 03 05:18 PM

That was factory supplied with there ends, The 100 ft has to be in tact to
regulate the power out.



"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
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Rich wrote in message ...
I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and

transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich


The problem is most likely with the 100 feet of RG58. At 2.4GHz
there'll be so much loss that no signal will get to the antenna. You
need to replace it with extremely low-loss coax or hard-line.




August 9th 03 05:20 PM

I have to look what they type of cable they supply.
out of 15 we only had trouble in the ones in pipe.
all of the others are surface wiring.




"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message
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Rich wrote:

I installed a 2.4 g radio system, I'm having trouble.
I ran 100 ft of RG 58 in a EMT / Ridged pipe with a mast on top.
Can EMT or ridged pipe for thirty feet effect the radio waves and

transmit
careerists of the radio?

Rich


I estimate the loss of 100' of RG58 to be in the vicinity of -30dB. That

means
1/1000th of your received signal makes it to the radio and 1/1000th of the
transmit signal actually gets radiated. Sure fire formula for failure. Go

get
some LMR-400 or LMR-600 cable and connectors.

Dale W4OP




August 9th 03 08:28 PM

I am sorry 450 mhz to the top and then converts to 2.4 G
It sends power up to the top.

My question is Running the RG-58 up the inside of the pipe for thirty ft.
Dose that cause interfearence.




August 9th 03 11:35 PM

Alvarion, Breezecom, Broadband Wireless Access Systems
Requires the 100 Ft in tact. To limit the amount of power to the converter
at the top. This is two out of 15 that we set up and the only in metal
conduit. The receivers will not latch or associate with the host.

Monday we will call the rep.

I was just pulling straws, making a good responses to the boss on Monday
morning. I know when I specked a building I all ways ask for PVC to the
roof.




"Dave Holford" wrote in message
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Rich wrote:

I am sorry 450 mhz to the top and then converts to 2.4 G
It sends power up to the top.

My question is Running the RG-58 up the inside of the pipe for thirty

ft.
Dose that cause interfearence.



I don't know about the pipe, unless you have RF on the outside of the
co-ax, but 100 feet of RG-58 should certainly 'regulate' the power; even
at 450MHz.
I'd be inclined to replace 'regulate' with 'reduce'.

Dave





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