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Ham Radio is Dead - Merry Xmas
Please don't feed the trolls......
"VT1" wrote in message ... Kiss my big phat, red nosed rudolph! "dontspam" wrote in message ... Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
Yep it probably already is. Last time I check on 12
meters is was pretty much silent. No tune down to 3,892 or 3,853 at nights and people will advise you on how you need to live your life! And I can hear jazz just about every nite on 40 meters, so my comment is that maybe ham radio is not really dead yet. Pending on your prespective. Yes many jerks out there, looking to harass someone, and yet I have found many folks want to have a good conversation one night without all the discotent on the band! Yep im not as active as I used to be, i give it hell when I can. gud luck to all and happy holidays from TX. Steve in the hill country...... |
RE Subject -- gross unsubstantiated generalization. Here are some facts -- just the facts, mam There are - 672,701 USA Hams -- been stable around that figure for several years For the bands that are open -- tons of signals to be heard And with advent of 5WPM for general and extra -- the bands are full of newbies and old timers as well "trailer." wrote in message ... Yep it probably already is. Last time I check on 12 meters is was pretty much silent. Of course -- we are on the downslope of the 11 year cycle 10M & 12M has some small openings but not like at the solar cycle peak Now tune down to 3,892 or 3,853 at nights and people will advise you on how you need to live your life! It has been that way for 25 years I know of -- nothing has changed on that band A minority -- tune around -- last night I heard a dozen or so highly technical and informative QSO's (left Coast) And I can send you dozens of accolades by goverment and local entities applauding Amateur Radio during emergencies And I can hear jazz just about every nite on 40 meters, A SWL broadcast station I assume -- been that way forever (nearly) so my comment is that maybe ham radio is not really dead yet. Pending on your prespective. Yes many jerks out there, looking to harass someone, Not nearly as many as here or CB or 2M repeaters ---- and on HF a wee minority and yet I have found many folks want to have a good conversation one night without all the discotent on the band! Indeed you can Yep im not as active as I used to be, i give it hell when I can. gud luck to all and happy holidays from TX. Steve in the hill country...... Happy Holidays Steve and keep the faith -- 25 years ago - I heard that Ham radio was dying -- yet the bands today are full of SSB, CW, RTTY, PSK31 and other modes. On contest weekends -- you will be hard pressed to find a non-contest spot -- phone or CW. Hint No contests on 30M, 17M, and 12M -- LC |
Lets see. The ARRL talked the FCC into making it soo easy to get a ham
license so they can sell more memberships to the ARRL. No new young hams getting in so that means as soon as us old timers are dead so is the hobby. On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:04 GMT, dontspam wrote: Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
I knew it was over when echolink and ILRP came on board. Why does
anyone need a hf antenna? They just need a ht. hi hi On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:04 GMT, dontspam wrote: Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
When The Big One hits you won't have: 1. The Internet 2. CellPhones 3. Telephones. 4. Access to roads 5. Power 6. Heating 7. Water But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world wide and locally Think about it And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay 25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701 licensed Amateur Radio Operators In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams. Ball in your court -- LC "dontspam" wrote in message ... I knew it was over when echolink and ILRP came on board. Why does anyone need a hf antenna? They just need a ht. hi hi On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:04 GMT, dontspam wrote: Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
Echolink and IRLP are just another way for Hams to communicate -- and that
is what we do. You won't have the internet or cellphones when the BIG one hits, so better "bother" and be prepared -- LC "rocky" wrote in message ... In article , dontspam wrote: I knew it was over when echolink and ILRP came on board. Why does anyone need a hf antenna? They just need a ht. hi hi Why even bother with echolink when we have the internet. |
Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide
disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the world. Back to you. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: When The Big One hits you won't have: 1. The Internet 2. CellPhones 3. Telephones. 4. Access to roads 5. Power 6. Heating 7. Water But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world wide and locally Think about it And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay 25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701 licensed Amateur Radio Operators In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams. Ball in your court |
Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide
disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the world. Back to you. On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:04 GMT, dontspam wrote: Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
Yeah well here in So Calif during the big fires -- the local entities were
overloaded -- guess who assisted them. Hams Who manned the health and wellfare (H&W) for the shelters -- Hams Who was on the fire scenes long before the TV crews -- yep Hams WHo passed over 1,000 H & W messages -- yep Hams Who provided over 50 volunteers to assist with the forestry service --Hams We didn't save the world -- but we had many accolades from the local authorities, press, and TV From FCC Part 97 (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications. AND WE DID EXACTLY THAT -- HOW ABOUT YOU ???? Ball in your court -- LC "dontspam" wrote in message ... Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the world. Back to you. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: When The Big One hits you won't have: 1. The Internet 2. CellPhones 3. Telephones. 4. Access to roads 5. Power 6. Heating 7. Water But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world wide and locally Think about it And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay 25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701 licensed Amateur Radio Operators In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams. Ball in your court |
"Left Coast" wrote in message
news:hOhzd.3267$Q%4.813@fed1read06... Yeah well here in So Calif during the big fires -- the local entities were overloaded -- guess who assisted them. Hams Who manned the health and wellfare (H&W) for the shelters -- Hams Who was on the fire scenes long before the TV crews -- yep Hams WHo passed over 1,000 H & W messages -- yep Hams Who provided over 50 volunteers to assist with the forestry service --Hams We didn't save the world -- but we had many accolades from the local authorities, press, and TV From FCC Part 97 (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications. AND WE DID EXACTLY THAT -- HOW ABOUT YOU ???? Ball in your court -- LC "dontspam" wrote in message ... Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the world. Back to you. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: When The Big One hits you won't have: 1. The Internet 2. CellPhones 3. Telephones. 4. Access to roads 5. Power 6. Heating 7. Water But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world wide and locally Think about it And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay 25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701 licensed Amateur Radio Operators In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams. Ball in your court Emergency Management is "quickly" overwhelmed in any critical emergency - as are communications. Those "millions" of dollars have been going for many things other than just Communications equipment - such as suits for responders in case of a Biological attack and so on. Classes to use them. Equipment, monitors, numerous other things - thanks to the 9/11 incident and subsequent threats. Hams are QUITE valuable in emergencies. They have a man at the Command post along with the Incident Commander of the scene, which also hosts a Fire Official, Police Official, and many other "Officials" who are involved. Communications are well used and in an orderly manner. Hams can do all the conversing while the others can stick to doing the things they are trained to do. I KNOW.... I'm an EMA Coordinator and Ham Op myself. "I" can't be everywhere and the Public Service bands are instantly swamped in those cases. Ham freqs are plentiful and allow unhindered comms. IF telephone lines are severed, you can kiss your computer goodbye. IF cell sites are knocked out, as they were with the huge electrical outage in the north east, you can shove them up your ass for all the good they are. Around here - on 9/11, the cell phones were almost useless - the system was so overwhelmed. Sometimes, several tries were made to get a call through. Your day to day comms ARE at the mercy of disaster. Some day, maybe you'll find yourself ass hole deep in an emergency and then you'll know. Truth is, you're most likely not involved in providing emergency comms or even as a Public Servant to know what is needed when the **** hits the fan. More so, one who sits on his ass and watches his world collapse around him. If you don't know what you're talking about, it is better to shut up and look the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. EMC |
Are you guys feeding the trols?
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:42:08 -0500, "EMC" wrote: "Left Coast" wrote in message news:hOhzd.3267$Q%4.813@fed1read06... Yeah well here in So Calif during the big fires -- the local entities were overloaded -- guess who assisted them. Hams Who manned the health and wellfare (H&W) for the shelters -- Hams Who was on the fire scenes long before the TV crews -- yep Hams WHo passed over 1,000 H & W messages -- yep Hams Who provided over 50 volunteers to assist with the forestry service --Hams We didn't save the world -- but we had many accolades from the local authorities, press, and TV From FCC Part 97 (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications. AND WE DID EXACTLY THAT -- HOW ABOUT YOU ???? Ball in your court -- LC "dontspam" wrote in message ... Why do we pay Emergency Management millions of dollars to provide disaster communications? So a bunch of hams with ht's can save the world. Back to you. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:06:43 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: When The Big One hits you won't have: 1. The Internet 2. CellPhones 3. Telephones. 4. Access to roads 5. Power 6. Heating 7. Water But prepared Hams will have 5 thru 7 and HF and emergency power - world wide and locally Think about it And quit bashing Ham Radio - it is here to stay 25 years ago we heard these same rants and today the USA has 672,701 licensed Amateur Radio Operators In 1970 there were about 270,000 US hams. Ball in your court Emergency Management is "quickly" overwhelmed in any critical emergency - as are communications. Those "millions" of dollars have been going for many things other than just Communications equipment - such as suits for responders in case of a Biological attack and so on. Classes to use them. Equipment, monitors, numerous other things - thanks to the 9/11 incident and subsequent threats. Hams are QUITE valuable in emergencies. They have a man at the Command post along with the Incident Commander of the scene, which also hosts a Fire Official, Police Official, and many other "Officials" who are involved. Communications are well used and in an orderly manner. Hams can do all the conversing while the others can stick to doing the things they are trained to do. I KNOW.... I'm an EMA Coordinator and Ham Op myself. "I" can't be everywhere and the Public Service bands are instantly swamped in those cases. Ham freqs are plentiful and allow unhindered comms. IF telephone lines are severed, you can kiss your computer goodbye. IF cell sites are knocked out, as they were with the huge electrical outage in the north east, you can shove them up your ass for all the good they are. Around here - on 9/11, the cell phones were almost useless - the system was so overwhelmed. Sometimes, several tries were made to get a call through. Your day to day comms ARE at the mercy of disaster. Some day, maybe you'll find yourself ass hole deep in an emergency and then you'll know. Truth is, you're most likely not involved in providing emergency comms or even as a Public Servant to know what is needed when the **** hits the fan. More so, one who sits on his ass and watches his world collapse around him. If you don't know what you're talking about, it is better to shut up and look the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. EMC |
I've been a ham since 1957....let's see thats about 47 years....I am having
more fun now then ever.....I work dx, talk to my friends up and down the coast and throughout the US at least once or twice a week. I love to home brew and you can find me daily at my workbench inside my radio shack. I am active on SSTV , AM, I belong to an exclusive CW club (FOC). I experiment with Hi Fi SSB audio....Ham radio for me is at its best.....bands seem to be well occupied....I don't see a problem.... Have fun, don't worry de Mike, K6ZSR "dontspam" wrote in message ... Ham radio will be dead soon and they will sell the freqs to the high bidder. Have a Merry Christmas. |
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