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Steve January 9th 05 04:59 PM

Help: RS-232 cable
 
Does anyone know if a 9 pin female on both ends have the same pin outs.
1 to 1 and 2 to 2 and so on?

I am trying to run some software and it says it can't read the freq.

Does standard RS-232 cable have the same pin outs on both ends?

Thanks

Steve



Panzer240 January 9th 05 05:16 PM

"Steve" wrote in news:jqKdnbpEDaSX_nzcRVn-
:

Does anyone know if a 9 pin female on both ends have the same pin outs.
1 to 1 and 2 to 2 and so on?

I am trying to run some software and it says it can't read the freq.

Does standard RS-232 cable have the same pin outs on both ends?

Thanks

Steve




There are two type :). One is straight thru i.e. pin 1 -- pin1 etc


The other is called a null modem cable and has crossovers i.e. pin 2 --
pin 3 an vice versa.


The one you need depends on the type of RS232 interfaces you are trying to
connect. DTE to DCE or DTE to DTE or DCE to DCE. Take a look here for
diarams of both types and information about the terms associated with the
RS-232 standard

http://www.camiresearch.com/Data_Com..._standard.html
hope it helps :)

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Evan Platt January 9th 05 06:29 PM

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:16:34 GMT, Panzer240
wrote:

There are two type :). One is straight thru i.e. pin 1 -- pin1 etc


The other is called a null modem cable and has crossovers i.e. pin 2 --
pin 3 an vice versa.


Shouldn't that be pin 1 - 9, pin 2 to pin 8, etc?
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Steve January 9th 05 06:51 PM

I think when they say standard RS-232 is means Data 1 to 1 and so on.
If you cross them, is it then a Null modem cable.

Steve


"Evan Platt" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:16:34 GMT, Panzer240
wrote:

There are two type :). One is straight thru i.e. pin 1 -- pin1 etc


The other is called a null modem cable and has crossovers i.e. pin 2 --
pin 3 an vice versa.


Shouldn't that be pin 1 - 9, pin 2 to pin 8, etc?
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Panzer240 January 9th 05 09:31 PM

Evan Platt wrote in
:

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:16:34 GMT, Panzer240
wrote:

There are two type :). One is straight thru i.e. pin 1 -- pin1 etc


The other is called a null modem cable and has crossovers i.e. pin 2 --
pin 3 an vice versa.


Shouldn't that be pin 1 - 9, pin 2 to pin 8, etc?


Nope, did you try following the link ???? All the info you need but afraid to
ask for is there, it just takes a bit of reading. *8^)

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Panzer


Panzer240 January 9th 05 10:04 PM

"Steve" wrote in
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I think when they say standard RS-232 is means Data 1 to 1 and so on.
If you cross them, is it then a Null modem cable.

That is correct provided the correct pins a crossed.

Standard is straight through, the pins correspond. There should also be a
male and a female connector. Each lead in the interface is assigned a
purpose e.g. DTE pin 2 is TX Data DCE pin 2 is RX Data. Since the type of
interface (DTE or DCE) has different functions assigned to each pin, a
standard cable allows for example the DTE to TX on pin 2 and a DCE to RX
on the same pin 2. Therefore you do not require a crossover in the wiring.
However when you are interfacing a DTE to a DTE you now have a problem.
Firstly the connectors will not match a standard cable, which has a male
on the DCE end and a female on the DTE end. Two DTEs would both have male
connectors so the cable should have two female connectors. Also since they
are both DTE the both would try to send data on pin 2 and they would never
RX any data from each other. That is why you have to crossover pin 2 on
one end to pin 3 and vice versa on the other and so that the DTEs can talk
to each other. The same applies to a pair of DCE's but the connectors on
the cable should both be male. If the equipment has a 9 pin on one end
and a 25 in on the other it may under some circumstances require circuit
modifications to get them to work if some of the flow control leads are
required for the interface to work. This is because the are 16 more leads
on one end. That is when you get in "custom" cables. Fortunately most PC
applications usually only require pins 2,3 and 7 to work. IF you cannot
get it work using thise 3 leads, then you will require a more than basic
understanding of the inteface parameters or the devices you are trying to
interface.

The above is all predicated on the equipment you are using correctly
adheres to the RS-232 standard, something that is not always the case.

:(

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