The thing that really killed your auction was the comment about the $10
surcharge for PayPal. If I were you, I'd check on my PayPal account and
see if it has been suspended too. Extra fees are something that they are
seriously against because that makes PayPal less attractive as a payment
method.

Ed, my auction said nothing about the winning bidder paying PAYPAL
fees. That was in a for sale post on the radio groups I posted AFTER my
auction got cancelled. I wasn't aware that was a violation. Someone
apprised me of it and I retracted it immediatley.

It's likely that a competitor saw that and narked you to eBay. Usenet
and SPAM probably had nothing to do with it. I didn't see the original
auction listing, only your rec.something posting via Google.


The ONLY reason I can think of for the removal was someone making a
complaint about the newsgroup posting. As you said, either a competitor,
or a no-life jealous lurker. And thanks to your information and insight
we now know they probaboly lied since two of the three groups I posted
on have NO prohibirion against eBay auction postings.

However, since eBay apparently refuse to answer my inquiry as to why the
auction was dumped, we may never know.

Isn't eBay obligated to give you a reason as to why they cancelled your
auction?
Dan

"Dan Conti" wrote in message
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The thing that really killed your auction was the comment about the $10
surcharge for PayPal. If I were you, I'd check on my PayPal account and
see if it has been suspended too. Extra fees are something that they are
seriously against because that makes PayPal less attractive as a payment
method.

Ed, my auction said nothing about the winning bidder paying PAYPAL fees.
That was in a for sale post on the radio groups I posted AFTER my auction
got cancelled. I wasn't aware that was a violation. Someone apprised me
of it and I retracted it immediatley.

It's likely that a competitor saw that and narked you to eBay. Usenet
and SPAM probably had nothing to do with it. I didn't see the original
auction listing, only your rec.something posting via Google.

The ONLY reason I can think of for the removal was someone making a
complaint about the newsgroup posting. As you said, either a competitor,
or a no-life jealous lurker. And thanks to your information and insight we
now know they probaboly lied since two of the three groups I posted on
have NO prohibirion against eBay auction postings.

However, since eBay apparently refuse to answer my inquiry as to why the
auction was dumped, we may never know.

Isn't eBay obligated to give you a reason as to why they cancelled your
auction?
Dan

IF you posted the deal about charging the Pay Pal fee, then retracted it, it
may have made no difference. Some one could have copied and forwarded to
E-Bay and/or Pay Pal, prompting them to drop you. As you should know, once a
post is made, it is there for all to see. The fact that you retracted it in
another post means nothing. The damage was done, and someone probably
alerted them and since they probably don't read news groups to see your
retraction, their dismissal of your auction - stands.

Quite frankly, "I" can't understand your charging a PAY PAL fee, this is the
first I've ever heard of anyone doing such a thing. It's the same as credit
cards, if you accept them, you pay a fee - about 2% or more... If you want
to recoup the fees, build them into the price to make up the difference
without muttering a word. People would turn and run from any store if they
announced that they're going to charge for your use of a credit card in
their store. For Christ's sakes, if you had a Buy it now, then you obviously
had a price with profit in mind, which you said was not only met, but
exceeded. SOoooo what is the problem? You let the overflow of on the offer
pay that fee - which couldn't have been too bad. A couple bucks to say maybe
$10 tops, which it sounds like you had succeeded in getting anyway. It
doesn't pay to be greedy...... Greed can kill a deal too!

Just my 2 cents.

cl

Dan Conti wrote:

The ONLY reason I can think of for the removal was

And if Dan Conti can't think of it, it must not exist!

Why don't you just read the eBay rules and follow them
like everybody else does? Simple solution.

So far, I think we've heard of about four
likely reasons why "mr ethical" got his
listings killed. None of which he seems
to be interested in hearing. We've also
probably heard from several dozen people
who likely "dropped the dime" on the guy.

Hey Lumpy,

You have my ear....

I'm interested.

Other then the fact that I posted a FA eBay auction post to THREE radio
newsgroups, two of them it appears ALLOW such postings, and the other
being an alt group, and someone dropped a dime, quarter , or whatever on
me to eBay, what are the other three reasons you think they dumped me?

I truly am interested in hearing your thoughts as I do not want to make
these mistakes on my next eBay auction...

Dan

wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:24:39 GMT, in alt.marketing.online.ebay Dan Conti
wrote:


Charging $20 for using pay pal in underhanded.

No it isn't.

First, it wasn't $20.00, it was $10.00.

In your rush to blast me, you should get your facts straight first.

Second, the eBay auction that was pulled made NO mention of ANYONE
paying ANY Paypal fees.

Third, I put that is a FOR SALE post on the radio groups in error. I
did not know it was against the rules. When someone told me it was, I
retracted the statement in the same post.

Now, I've seen others charge buyers the PAYPAL fee and get away with it,
that's why I thought it OK. DOes that make it right, NO, and as I said,
I immediately corrected my error.

However, it may be against eBay and PAYPAL rules to ask for the PAYPAL
fee, but how is it underhanded?

Keep trying, I can keep this thread going forever....

Dan



Let me get this straight. Ebay should make a special exception just for you so
you can continue to **** in all the pools. You're well on your way to being a
power seller.

For the life of me I just don't see how you got any of that from what I
said above. I don't know what a "power seller" is, but it sounds from
your tone that it is not a good thing.

I thought I wrote in easily understandable English. Special exception
for WHAT?

I give up...

Dan

I think you deserved to be laid in.

Laid in?

Dan Conti wrote in
:

wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:24:39 GMT, in alt.marketing.online.ebay Dan
Conti wrote:


Charging $20 for using pay pal in underhanded.

No it isn't.

First, it wasn't $20.00, it was $10.00.

In your rush to blast me, you should get your facts straight first.

Second, the eBay auction that was pulled made NO mention of ANYONE
paying ANY Paypal fees.

Third, I put that is a FOR SALE post on the radio groups in error. I
did not know it was against the rules. When someone told me it was, I
retracted the statement in the same post.

Now, I've seen others charge buyers the PAYPAL fee and get away with
it, that's why I thought it OK. DOes that make it right, NO, and as I
said, I immediately corrected my error.

However, it may be against eBay and PAYPAL rules to ask for the PAYPAL
fee, but how is it underhanded?

Keep trying, I can keep this thread going forever....

Dan



Let me get this straight. Ebay should make a special exception just
for you so you can continue to **** in all the pools. You're well on
your way to being a power seller.

For the life of me I just don't see how you got any of that from what I
said above. I don't know what a "power seller" is, but it sounds from
your tone that it is not a good thing.

I thought I wrote in easily understandable English. Special exception
for WHAT?

I give up...

Dan

Dan you obviously don't know when your chain is being yanked.
Ignore the chilish jackasses and they will fret and go away.

Dan Conti wrote:

I don't know what a "power seller" is

You would know if you had taken my advice and read the rules
at ebay and PayPal. It takes less than an hour, and many folks
here will be glad to answer specific questions.

Or you can learn by having your auctions cancelled and wondering why.

wrote:

On Tuesday September 11, 2001, another one of the three top sins of the universe
occurred. Our species, Homo sapiens, blatantly caused approximately 578 species
of the web of life to go extinct. This extinction rate equals one species of
life going extinct every 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

Name 10 animal species that have gone extinct in the last 100 years.

(Cue sound of silence, followed by sputtering and flaming but no list...)

wrote in message ...



wrote:

On Tuesday September 11, 2001, another one of the three top sins of the
universe
occurred. Our species, Homo sapiens, blatantly caused approximately 578
species
of the web of life to go extinct. This extinction rate equals one species
of
life going extinct every 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

Name 10 animal species that have gone extinct in the last 100 years.

(Cue sound of silence, followed by sputtering and flaming but no list...)


A whole page of just extinct mammals:

http://www.petermaas.nl/extinct/english.htm
Birds:

Carolina parakeet (Conuropsis carolinensis carolinensis)
Formerly found in: Southeastern United States
Extinct about 1920

Heath Hen (Tympanuchus cupido cupido)
Formerly found in: Eastern United States
Extinct in 1932

Passenger Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius)
Formerly found in: Central and eastern North America
Extinct in 1914

Laysen Rail 1944

Lanai Thrush 1931

Laysen Millerbird 1923



Fish:

Blackfin cisco
(Coregonus nigripinnis)
Formerly found in: Lakes Huron, Michigan, Ontario, and Superior
Extinct in 1960s

Blue pike
(Stizostedion vitreum glacum)
Formerly found in: Lakes Erie and Ontario
Declared extinct in 1983

Deepwater cisco
(Coregonus johannae)
Formerly found in: Lakes Huron and Michigan
Extinct in 1960s

Longjaw cisco
(Coregonus alpenae)
Formerly found in: Lakes Erie, Huron, and Michigan
Declared extinct in 1983

Clams:

Leafshell
(Epioblasma flexuosa)
Formerly found in: Alabama, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee
Has not been found alive in over 75 years and since 1988 has been considered
extinct

Round combshell
(Epioblasma personata)
Formerly found in: Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio
Has not been found alive in over 75 years and since 1988 has been considered
extinct

Sampson's pearlymussel (Wabash riffleshell)
Epioblasma sampsonii
Formerly found in: Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky
Declared extinct in 1984

Scioto pigtoe
(Pleurobema bournianum)
Formerly found in: Ohio

Tennessee riffleshell
(Epioblasma propinqua)
Formerly found in: Alabama, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee
Has not been found alive in over 75 years and since 1988 has been considered
extinct