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clfe June 7th 06 02:22 AM

Give up CB for ham?
 
"clfe" wrote in message
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"Tom Ring" wrote in message
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Tom Ring wrote:

wrote:

Alot of people are telling me that CB is just for inbred hicks and that
I should replace the CB in my truck with a ham radio. What do you
thjink?


You should go for your license. The additional privelages are quite
worthwhile. I will warn you that there are still quite a few inbred
hicks that got their ham tickets, unfortunately. The good thing is most
of them seem to be extra class, and are mostly older and will be gone
soon. It's a leftover effect of requiring Morse ability as opposed to
operating knowledge.

tom
K0TAR


Boy it's fun what a little trolling can do to my peers. I'm also an
Extra, and licensed for 29 years.

Code is worth what it can do, but has had less and less to do with the
hobby for decades. It's a great hobby within the hobby on HF, and was
the core of EME for years. It still is to some extent, but advances due
to moving up in frequency as well as computer based modes as low as 6 and
2 meters are making it something used for EME as much for fun and
stubborness as for usefullness. SSB is a very popular mode on EME now
among the big guns.

CW is dead as far as being needed. It's a great thing to have as a
skill, but is now as needed as spark.

The person who said they could key an HT to send CW was stretching it way
beyond reality. Ain't gonna happen, any more than someone will make a
spark transmitter by keying a big bunch of wire they wound in a coil when
trapped in their basement by touching it to the hot side of the drop in
their fusebox.

tom
K0TAR


I'm not sure if you're referring to my post or someone else's who I didn't
see. In "my" example - I was saying if a MIC was broken and they knew
code, they could short out the tranmit pins - like making and breaking
contact such as a key would do - to broadcast a coded message. It "can" be
done. There is what is/was known as "Modulated CW". And, I've seen guys
key an H.T. OR Mic and do code with an "Oscillator" with the other hand -
thereby transmitting the code - from the Oscillator speaker through the
mic of the H.T or radio. Maybe that is what "they" were referring to - I
don't know.


clfe


Then too along with the above - they "could" have been referring to using
the "key pad" to send code while the H.T. was keyed OR using the keypad on a
mic while it was keyed......... If memory serves me correct - at the moment
(slips at times) - THAT would be equivalent to MCW (Modulated CW). I've seen
that done too.

clfe



Butch Magee June 7th 06 02:26 AM

Give up CB for ham?
 
wrote:
Alot of people are telling me that CB is just for inbred hicks and that
I should replace the CB in my truck with a ham radio. What do you
thjink?

Dont you fall for these dastardly lies. You stay right where you are.
Trust me you do not want to be where we are, in 50 or so years you will
thank us for keeping you in cbland.

Butch

Cecil Moore June 7th 06 04:30 AM

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clfe wrote:
DUH - I KNOW THAT - I was just saying the tapping let the people at the
surface know there were 9 people down there. MORSE CODE - "could" have
relayed much more info if one of them knew it. REREAD my message.......


How do you send a 'dash' by tapping on a pipe? You
apparently could revolutionize prison communications
by providing an answer to that simple question.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore June 7th 06 04:41 AM

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clfe wrote:
I'm not sure if you're referring to my post or someone else's who I didn't
see. In "my" example - I was saying if a MIC was broken and they knew code,
they could short out the tranmit pins - like making and breaking contact
such as a key would do - to broadcast a coded message. It "can" be done.


Please tell us when, in human history, it has ever been done.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

jawod June 7th 06 05:22 AM

Give up CB for ham?
 
Cecil Moore wrote:



Please tell us when, in human history, it has ever been done.


Yes. It was an episode of the old Adam-12 TV series. Patrolman was
injured in a crashed cruiser. Mic out. but he could click the mic
button...the guy on the other end directed him to "click once if you
hear me and twice if you don't"

Classic television: you had to be there.

kd5sak June 7th 06 05:36 AM

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...
clfe wrote:
How do you send a 'dash' by tapping on a pipe? You
apparently could revolutionize prison communications
by providing an answer to that simple question.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


How about a fast double tap on the pipe (or bar) to signify a "dash"? It's
not an elegant solution, but could be made to work. Those guys are probably
not gonna try for 30 characters per minute anyway.

Harold
KD5SAK



Caveat Lector June 7th 06 02:49 PM

Caught Sending Morse (was Give up CB for ham?)
 
During long boring meetings at an Aerospace company, my buddy and I would
send Morse by pencil taps, sharp tap was a dit and a tap-scrape was a dah.
Worked well until a new manager gave his fist talk assuring us nothing would
change - we tapped out BS.

After the meeting, the new manager asked my buddy and I to stay for a moment
after the meeting,

With a smile, he sed Hi guys -- I'm W#XYZ

Real call sign disguised to protect the guilty (;-)

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"kd5sak" wrote in message
et...

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...
clfe wrote:
How do you send a 'dash' by tapping on a pipe? You
apparently could revolutionize prison communications
by providing an answer to that simple question.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


How about a fast double tap on the pipe (or bar) to signify a "dash"? It's
not an elegant solution, but could be made to work. Those guys are
probably not gonna try for 30 characters per minute anyway.

Harold
KD5SAK




Cecil Moore June 7th 06 03:03 PM

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jawod wrote:
I seem to remember that the original Morse code was all clicks.


Wasn't there a strong click when the receiver circuit
closed and a different weak click when the circuit
opened? The length of time between those two types of
clicks was either a dot or a dash?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Dave June 7th 06 03:21 PM

Give up CB for ham?
 
'tap' for dot.

'scratch' for dash.

Cecil Moore wrote:

clfe wrote:

DUH - I KNOW THAT - I was just saying the tapping let the people at
the surface know there were 9 people down there. MORSE CODE - "could"
have relayed much more info if one of them knew it. REREAD my
message.......



How do you send a 'dash' by tapping on a pipe? You
apparently could revolutionize prison communications
by providing an answer to that simple question.



Caveat Lector June 7th 06 03:33 PM

Give up CB for ham?
 
The first Morse machines scribed the dots and dashes on a moving strip of
paper. Operators of the day found that they could decode the sound of the
scriber by ear, so the scribing machines were scrapped.

http://www.maxmon.com/1880ad.htm

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !



"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
om...
jawod wrote:
I seem to remember that the original Morse code was all clicks.


Wasn't there a strong click when the receiver circuit
closed and a different weak click when the circuit
opened? The length of time between those two types of
clicks was either a dot or a dash?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp





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