"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
Dwight, I don't know how it is where you are, but
here there is no one willing to do the work a lot of
our immigrant population are willing to do--and do.
Nonsense, Kim. The reason most people aren't willing to do those jobs is
because the wages are so low. Offer decent wages and people will gladly do
those jobs.
I don't know about you, but I sure don't want to be paying the price of your
philosophy noted above. Oh. And how dare you tell me "nonsense," Dwight.
I am relaying to you things from my own experience and you say to me,
"NONSENSE?" Do you know how much like Larry Roll you are sounding?
There are non-immigrant workers throughout this country busting
their butts in construction jobs, laborer jobs, crappy jobs, and
dangerious
jobs. They do so because the wages are decent. My god, there are even
people
willing to walk into a nuclear reactor if the pay is good enough. Offer
decent wages for almost ANY job and I'm fully convinced there will be
plenty
of non-immigrant workers willing to do those jobs. I see nothing to even
suggest otherwise.
And you'd better be ready to not be able to afford almost anything you buy
cheaply right now BECAUSE of things as they are.
I remember many times asking my teen-aged son to go
get a job and, when he'd retort with, "there aren't any
jobs," I would mention some of the things I knew were
avaiable: farm work (building fences, etc.); any fast food
chain, stock clerk, etc. He was indignant, at best, when
he thought his mother would suggest such a thing to her
own son...that was not work he was about to go do.
Why should he work? He's living at home with mommy where everything is
free and he's spoiled rotten.
Uh, I don't know what home you're talking about, but my kids were not
spoiled rotten. They got no car unless they bought it themselves. They did
NOT get any monetary support from me for any of their wants or needs in any
area except school and clothing. And, they were told they could either
spend my $200.00 on one outfit at Gadzooks for the whole schoolyear, or they
could go to Wal-Mart and get several pairs of Rustler Jeans and some shirts
and shoes.
When he is old enough, throw his butt out and
watch how fast his work ethic changes. In the meantime, sharply reduce the
money you give him (no car, no fancy school cloths, no expensive shoes, no
music CD's, no stereo, and so on) and tell him to get a job if he wants
those extras. After he throws a temper tantrum for a few months, wears out
of the stuff he has now, and realises you're serious, a job will look much
more appealing to him. He will have to do all this eventually anyway, so
now
is a good time to start properly preparing him for his future. Later, once
he has to start paying for them, he'll miss the free food you gave him and
the free shelter you provided.
Like I said. Don't know whose home you've been peering into, but it ain't
mine. My sons are long from teen-aged any more.
Now, I meet adults with the same attitude. I am very
thankful for that part of my community with people who
are willing to take on the immense task of the "physical
labor" jobs that many of us wouldn't be caught doing.
Very thankful indeed, for no one else would do them.
Like those other adults you mention, there are many jobs I will not do
today, Kim. I can't afford to do those low paying jobs if I want to feed
my
family, live in a decent home, and make the car payments. And I'm
certainly
not willing to live twenty to a hotel room or apartment like you see so
many
poor illegal immigrants doing today. And, lets face it, I just can't
physically do some of those jobs anymore. But none of that suggests for a
moment that I'm not willing to work. Likewise, none of that suggests there
are no younger non-immigrants willing to do those jobs if the wages were
decent.
Dwight Stewart (W5NET)
http://www.qsl.net/w5net/
Didn't say you aren't willing to work. And you're comments above about how
tough those jobs are for very little pay and how you wouldn't do them...just
highlights exactly what I was saying.
Kim W5TIT