"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
Now I see what you are doing. You are OVER reacting
to any little thing just to try and hang on to whatever
concept it is you have, Dwight. "Nationwide search?"
That is hysterical! (snip)
Kim, at least try to think before posting. When you search for something
on the internet, you're not exactly limiting your search to your hometown,
now are you? The search is nation-wide, and even world-wide. Duh!
It took me less than 2 minutes to "happen" to look last night
while I was at Wal-Mart. Now, true, they are a nationwide
outlet so you may have to travel the nation before you find
one of those stores--but they had more than one choice of
metal fans. So, don't know why you can't find 'em.
Please provide the names of those fans. I've searched Wal-Mart several
times, and taken several of their fans apart, and they do not have an all
metal fan. The motor is the most critical part since that is what wears out
so quickly. In each of the fans I took apart, major internal parts (gears,
bearings, motor mounts, and so on) were plastic, not metal. Of course, I
don't expect much more than that from Wal-Mart. They sell cheap fans. But I
even found similar materials in much more expensive fans at stores that
specialize in products targeted towards business and industry.
'Scuse me? Surely you are basing the content of your
opinions on at least *some* kind of facts that you've
either experienced or heard, or whatever, over the course
of your life. In fact, I bet I can find a comment you made
to me in this thread that lends itself to not basing my
opinions from out of thin air! (snip)
Do so, Kim. Show me where I've said anything of the sort to you (the
actual message, not a quote you've taken out of context). While I've
occasionally asked someone for details on something he or she claims to be
fact, I don't believe I've ever asked anyone to provide facts to support an
opinion.
And, if you wish to be a proponent of something, it's
nearly imperative that you be able to convince others
why it's a good idea. Maybe that's why your ideas
flop; and why the American people don't change things
as they need to be changed.
I'm also not here to be a proponent of anything, Kim. When are you going
to understand this is just a newsgroup, not a meeting of Congress? None of
us have the power to change anything by simply posting to this newsgroup.
Instead, we're simply discussing issues, comparing opinions, and perhaps
getting a difference insight in the process.
See Jim? Give a dog a bone and he buries it. When
someone submits something contrary to the way Dwight
wants everything to be--*without* substantiated
concepts I might add--by *his* own admission--he
suddenly gets short and impatient with others.
Hello? Where have I been short and impatient with anyone other than you,
Kim? I stated what I believe to be bloody obvious - "short of setting up a
dictatorship, you're never going to get even a significant portion of the
280 million people in this country to shop the way you want." I don't think
Jim would disagree with that and you don't even address it in your response.
So, as in real debate, let's bring this full-circle. You
are stating that consumers--presumably *American*
consumers--are too lazy and/or incapable of business
or economic awareness to decide "smart" shopping
decisions?! (snip)
No, that is not what I said, Kim. I said exactly what I meant - "consumers
in general [and, since I'm a consumer, that would certainly include me] have
neither the business awareness or economic awareness to make those types of
decisions on their own." I'm certainly not aware of all the business
activities and interactions of the many companies whose products I purchase.
Likewise, I'm not fully aware of the economic policies and practices of this
country or the countries we trade with. Such an awareness would require an
army of employees and the financial resources of the government just to
research. Court cases involving such issues, centering on just a single
large company, have taken years to resolve.
They sure do. And many do. We live in an information
glut these days. If someone can't get information they
are looking for, they need to ask someone how to find it-
-because it's pretty much there and it's there fairly
quickly.
Is that true, Kim? You said to ask someone. Okay, since you claim such
information can be easily and quickly found, I'll ask you and put your claim
to the test. I'm going shopping this morning to buy six products - Mary Jane
Bread, Jiffy Pop Popcorn, Pam Cooking Spray, Brawney Napkins, and some
screws and plywood from Home Depot (whatever brands they carry). Please
provide me with information about each of these products, the companies, and
the overall industries, involved. This should include all information needed
to be a truly informed, "concerned," shopper - manufacturing processes,
product safety, environmental issues, financial information, ties with other
companies both here and overseas, markets, details and backgrounds of owners
and senior management, employee composition, and so on. Since the
information is so easily and quickly found, this shouldn't take you more
than a few minutes (with the results posted here today). When you're
finished with that, then you can start on this evening's shopping lists - my
wife is going grocery shopping for a few dozen products and we're both later
going to the mall for another half dozen or so products.
Oh OK. It's always going to be the corporate entity's fault.
Now, speak of liberal slinging...
Did you suddenly lose the ability to comprehend what you've read, Kim? I
clearly said, "Business has _SOME_ responsibility in all this." Only you
could read that as "It's always..." their "...fault."
Dwight Stewart (W5NET)
http://www.qsl.net/w5net/