In article . net, "Bill Sohl"
writes:
"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article . net, "Bill
Sohl"
writes:
Maybe I missed a post somewhere. What would be the difference,
other than name, between a Class A and the Extra?
All I can see is that Class A doesn't need to be renewed.
An unlikly license aspect since if there is no
renewal, then the FCC data base gets larger and larger
since no licenseever expires. That should really screw up the
statistics as to how many hams there are.
I noted that some time ago, Bill, but nobody commented on it until you did.
Perhaps that's part of the plan! Imagine if the FCC database totals showed the
number of hams who had ever held a license, rather than the number of current
licenses.....
Japan's operator licenses are "for life", which is one reason their totals
appear to be so high.
The biggest downside I can see is that a lot of prime callsigns would be tied
up unless family members could be convinced to send in a license cancellation
letter.
If the
only difference is the name, why would any Extra waste time
to pass a class A test whenit buys them nothing?
I'd do it just to avoid having to renew.
Last time I renewed the ARRL sent me a nice letter,I signed it
and mailed it back.
I got one of those, too. Now it can even be done online.
Sure wasn't any effort on my part worth
the effort involved in a 100 question test..studying, going to a test
session, taking the test. But, your mileage may vary.
I say "bring it on! I got yer 100 questions right here!"
Plus, I could then say I'd passed both the "old" and "new" tests for
full-privileges ham licenses.
In other words, bragging rights and stroking your own ego...
Is that bad?
which do nothing for the hobby.
That's one spin. Here's another: By getting a Class A instead of clinging to my
Extra, I'd be setting an example for others *and* reducing FCC's admin
workload.
After all, if every Extra got a Class A, there's be no problem. And one of the
simplest tests of any action's morality is "what if everyone did that?"
Also, why would the FCC want to maintain the name difference
in their database if that is all it is?
Just a name.
For 15 years the FCC retained the name difference between Advanced and
General
even though Advanced privileges were exactly the same as General
privileges.
For most of that time, the FCC "database" wasn't even computerized (the
amateur
radio data was first computerized in 1964, IIRC).
So I don;t think it would be much of a problem today.
But, it would require "some" ongoing FCC effort, etc. The how much
is unquantifiable by anyone other than the FCC.
Sure. But obviously FCC though it worth doing for 15 years, and again today
with the Advanced and Novice.
Is it really almost four years since those changes?
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I think in all the arguments about the details, we may be losing sight of
the main goals of Hans' proposal:
1) Make it easier to get an entry-level amateur license
2) Convey a very large set of privileges with that entry-level license so
that new hams can sample *anything* amateur radio has to offer - except
high power transmitters.
3) Offer a real incentive for new hams to increase their technical
knowledge and qualify for full privilege licenses within a reasonable
time
4) Simplify the rules and test procedures (two tests is simpler than three
tests, anyway)
Of course there's disagreement about the methods. But aren't these all
pretty good goals?
I agree. My comments above are directed at aspects that I think will need
to be addressed. Frankly, I don't give a hoot about retaing an existence
license name
just to show others I passed or did certain requirements that newer hams
didn't.
I think those that deliberately don't upgrade to Extra from Advanced, just
to
show others they once passed a 13 wpm test have a personal self esteem
problem.
Actually, they have a logic problem! Because the fact of possesing an
Advanced in and of itself does not prove that someone passed the 13 wpm test
any more than having an Extra proves someone passed the 20 wpm test, due to
medical waivers.
73 de Jim, N2EY
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