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Old December 13th 03, 05:26 PM
Dan/W4NTI
 
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Kim W5TIT wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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JJ wrote:

Kim W5TIT wrote:



You know what? I am not so sure that it would take all that much,

Jim. I
am not even going to pretend to be a financier, but I wonder how

much
of the
Federal Budget, i.e. your and my tax dollars, get spent away from

our
country. Then, how much foreign debt is "forgiven" each year?

I would wager we could cut the foreigh aid we send to support those
little ****ant dictators in some of those ****ant countries and have
more than enough to provide good health care for every citizen.

Foreign aid goes a long way toward having those countries vote in the
U.N. in line with our policies.


Yeah, money always has been very easy to throw around, 'specially when

it's
someone else's.


It isn't "someone else's" money, Kim. It is government money obtained
from those Americans who pay taxes. The money is being spent in the
interest of the people of the U.S.


There's other ways to win friends and influence people--and
ways that would mean a lot more and build better alliances in the

longrun.

What would you suggest, takeovers of countries or free beer at the U.S.
embassy on Friday evenings?


Some of it puts military officers from
third world countries through *our* military academies. It gives

those
officers a chance to live in the U.S. and see how our system works.


Yeah, so they can go and influence a bunch of rebels in their or other
homelands and train enemies to the US.


Is that what you believe is happening?

We don't need someone learning "our"
way of doing things...let them figure it out for themselves.


Not much chance of that. You live here and you haven't figured it out.


Some of the aid brings scholars to the U.S. to study.


So they can go back to their land, grow a company, and somehow through

many
different ways, we end up losing jobs and capital over here.


Do you believe that is the purpose for bringing foreign students to the
U.S. for schooling?


If we build a
needed flood control dam in Sierra Leone, good will toward the United
States is generated.


Give them a very, very low interest loan with a good down payment and

let
them build their own damned dam.


That is quite often done. On other occasions, the money comes in the
form of a grant. The actual construction, by the way, is often done by
U.S. companies.


A decade or so back, Botswana actually weaned
itself from U.S. aid and thanked us.


'Sbout damned time...although I doubt they're as "weaned" as they should

be
or are.


...but that's probably just another thing you know little about, huh?


Why would paying for your doctor visits and your medications be the
government's responsibility?



Uh, because *we live* in this country?


Yeah? So? How does that entitle you to free medical care?

So, you disagree with programs that
improve our infrastructure that is pitiful, helps our kids and elderly

with
healthcare and even education, begins an effort to ending welfare for

the
capable, improves health conditions nationwide--and more, while our
government is off in other lands playing Godfather?! Figures, Dave.


I don't believe that most Americans believe that anyone other than those
children and elderly people should be given free or subsidized health
care.

The people of this country who are being taxed to the hilt are paying

for
the backbone of crap in this country and the rest of the world.


They're paying for what?

It's time
the rest of the world and the nitwits in this country get pushed out of

the
nest. But, of course that ain't happenin' any time soon.


There's the Lucy Van Pelt view of Foreign Policy for you. Why don't you
stick to things you know something about...as soon as you figure out
what those might be?

Dave K8MN


Dave,

You are wasting your time. Twit is a self proclaimed 'flower child' (of
the mid 70s !!!). Which translated means she is a braindead socialist
thinking Demoncrat.

Dan/W4NTI