Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil


Quit trying to sound like a Ba'athist amateur, Klunk.

There certainly weren't many of them, kindly old gent. Still, YI1BGD
contacts weren't that hard to come by. Rarer still would be a QSL
confirming a contact with you on the ham bands.

Rarer still would be the Great Amateur Heil getting above 70 cm.

How would you know?

So, your only "interest" in radio is contacting "rare ones?"

Excuse me? Where did you see that statement from me?

Home Depot and Lowes have fine selections of tasteful wallpaper
if you need some.

....and Toy 'R' Us carries "Clue". Maybe someone will get you a "Clue"
for Christmas!

Better than QSL cards for the esthetic senses
of non-radio guests. [you DO have guests, don't you? or are all
your social contacts of the ham variety?]

Whaddya writing a book? If so, leave out the chapter on my socializing
and make it a mystery.

The League (of Notions) MAKES MONEY on the publication side
of their conglomerate of control.

Ads in QST pay for everything in the QST staff and the cost of job
printing and fulfillment (publication talk for mailing/distributing).

The "non-profit" stuff and nonsense is for lowering their taxes.

No kidding? Thanks for clearing this up for those of us who've only
been members for three or four decades, Len. You're pretty up to date
for a non-member, non-radio amateur.

SOMEONE had to clue you in, ignorant one.

Why not regale us with another account of ARRL dishonesty, Foghorn?

You've been so busy worshipping at the Church of St. Hiram you
never knew about the BUSINESS side of the League?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

I'm sure that you're as much an expert on the inner workings of the ARRL
as you are on amateur radio.

You need copies of their IRS forms from 2002 and previous years?
Those are on the Internet.

I interviewed for a League position years back. The
salary offered wasn't enough to cover a move and life in the greater
Hartford area.

Translation: You were rejected. (boo hoo for you)

You've mistranslated. What part of "the salary offered" wasn't clear to
you? Are you playing loose with the facts again?

What was the AMOUNT of the salary offering? You never gave any
"facts," only some CLAIM that "you interviewed."

I have to ask, Len. What business would that be of yours?

YOUR facts are simply salesmanship doubletalk on "facts." You've
not given any supportable facts. None.

What part of "salary offered" wasn't clear to you? What is the point of
your attempting make an issue of the matter.

While I'm sure that salaries are now better, I don't
think any League staffers are putting up gold-plated Rohn tower and 80m
yagis at their palatial estates.

Rohn filed for bankruptcy on account of that?

No, I think they waited for decades for your business and it dawned on
someone at the plant that it just wasn't going to come about.

I've never gone to Rohn for any towers are antennas. Three other
commercial firms, Andrew being the oldest (and still solvent).

Why the sudden misdirection into FALSE CLAIMS about some
company "waiting for my business?"

Sudden misdirection? What was your comment about Rohn's bankruptcy?

You can see the top five staffers' salaries given on their 2002 IRS
forms.

And?

It would give you a baseline for MORE creative lying in here about
"interviewing with the ARRL." :-)

What on earth are you babbling about?


If you are foolish enough to believe that W1AW's station, the
"museum" and all the other paraphenalia came out of dues, you've
got a database gap large enough to sail the USS Enterprise through.

I've made no such statement. I know how a non-profit organization
operates. I know how the ARRL operates. Sadly, I know how you operate.

I'm not a licensed MD. :-)

....and you're not a license radio amateur either :-) :-)

With all the dissatisfaction you've expressed, why not start your own
organization for like-minded hams? I'm sure you'd amass a following in
no time.

Three-fourths of all licensed U.S. radio amateurs are NOT members.

One fourth, a sizeable number, ARE members.

That's still a *MINORITY*.

It is 25% of all radio amateurs in the U.S. It beats your one of a
kind.

Hello? Are you rational yet?

There are also Associate
Members who are not licensees.

NON-VOTING. They can't "decide" a damn thing in League things.

Why would they expect to?

You aren't a Full Member nor are you an Associate Member.

So, everyone is not allowed to comment on anything if they
are not a "member?"

Comment all you like. You have no say in ARRL matters.

The League is a POLITICAL ENTITY. They lobby.

That is certainly a part of what the ARRL does, and it does it very,
very well.

The League is OPEN FOR COMMENTARY BY EVERYONE,
senior.

You can stand outside and comment your buns off. They don't amount to a
hill of beans. Non-members have no vote.

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution allows
EVERY CITIZEN to comment.

....not from inside an organization it doesn't. The ARRL isn't required
to listen to or act on your comments.

Except in your amateur universe...

That should be evidenciary. To all but the minority who are members.

So, to see if we have your latest yarn straight, ARRL members aren't
aware that there are others who are not members?

Bad attempt at editing and word cut-and-pasting, senior.

TAKE THINGS IN CONTEXT.

I took them in context. Go back and read your own words. Don't forget
to look at the those you snipped. You'll need them for clarity.

Members "KNOW what is good for all the others" and therefore they
are the elite.

Other than you, who issues such statements? What is any of this to you
as an outsider to amateur radio and the ARRL?

Does such statements upset you?

Who has issued such statements? What is any of this to you?

See a real MD...or psychiatric specialist.

You need one.

Oh, are you an expert on medicine as well as amateur radio?

The League (of Notions) still holds on vainly to the idea that morse
code is still the ultimate of amateur skills...long after the rest of the
radio world has given it up, discarded it for communications.

Maybe you can point us to some place on the ARRL web site where such a
statement is made.

Maybe you can go to another Scientology office and get "clear" so
that you can see years and years and years of propagandizing of
and for morsemanship.

So you can't provide us with anything to back your latest wild claim.

Dave K8MN