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December 23rd 03, 08:49 PM

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Brian)
Date: 12/20/03 9:09 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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ubject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 12/20/03 2:50 PM Central Standard Time
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So, give us an EXACT number of ARRL members.

Check their annual postal statement. It's a violation for them
to
purjure
that, and it delineates the number of "paid subscriptions" (ie:
paid-up
members)

Steve, K4YZ

I was a member of the ARRL prior to earning my Novice ticket.

What was my call sign then?

I am sure there was a point ot your asking this question, Brain,
even
though it was not part-and-parcel of the quoted item above.

Regardless of your licensure status when you joined the ARRL, the
only
'relevence' would have been your voting staus. You were STILL a member.

Now...the point?

Steve, K4YZ

Let me think it through for you.

A non-member, me, receives QST. I am included in the annual postal
statement.

Every library is included in the postal statement.

Every club that subscribes is included in the postal statement.

Every foreign subscriber non-member is included in the postal
statement.

Now would you mind answereing the question: "So, give us an EXACT
number of ARRL members."

He cannot, so, as his "representative" in here, I will. :-)

According to the ARRL's own information, their last Publisher's
Sworn Circulation Statement was end of June, 2003.

At that time ARRL membership was 155,132.

Of those, 19,180 were Life Members.

All of the information is from ARRL's own website under QST
Circulation. There are some apparent discrepancies on that,
probably due to "creative rearrangement" of the data. For example,
the "average monthly paid circulaion" (six months, ending at end
of June) was only 142,992. Between that and the indicated
membership is 12,140 unaccounted for and not explained by any
sales to library/institution subscriptions (only 891) or net single
copy sales (only 1,784).

In the "average monthly paid circulation by type," the number of
issues to associations and members (including Life Members) was
140,317 and, with libraries and single copy sales, adds up to
142,311. That's off of Cathy's statement of 142,992 by 681. ?

If there were 682 thousand total U.S. amateur radio licensees at
the end of June, 2003, then ARRL membership is only 22.79%
and LESS than a quarter.

LHA

"But, but, but....

YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE! YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO READ THOSE FIGURES
ON THE ARRL WEB SITE. YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO MATH AND CREATE A
RATIO OF MEMBEERS TO NON-MEMBERS. YOUR RESEARCH DOESN'T COUNT. YOU
CAN'T HAVE AN OPINION.

...blah, blah, blah."

Welp, Len, see where knowledge and facts will get ya?

Merry Christmas.

I know. Isn't it awful? :-)

It's so comforting to know that one can read and repeat Cathy's
Circulation page on ARRL's website as a "LIE!" :-)

There are other little gems from da Wundermarine in here, such
as its impossible for a First Phone to be used in U.S. civil
aviation band radio communications since a Restricted 3rd
Class "must" be used...which was nonsense in 1962...and
later when the Commercial licenses got converted to the
General Radiotelephone. He could not give exact figures on
QST circulation for any issue (despite being only a few key-
presses away from the main web page) but he "Knows" the
exact costs in certain years for student flying lessons. The
circulation for QST is very much amateur radio related but the
student pilot costs are not. [he might have been hit by a
couple of close isobars once and had an adiabatic lapse
rate decrease...:-) ]

Stebe thinks that the "majority" of U.S. amateur radio activity
is above HF. That must mean that he never listens below 30
MHz. Probably true since all he can do is transmit over-
modulated shouting and hollering about close-order drill below
30 MHz. Hup too tree foah, ya lie, ya lie, ya lie! :-)

The ONLY way one can be "interested in radio" is to get a ham
license and be proficient in morse code...with extra gold stars
if one was once a member of da murine corpse. Doesn't hurt if
one was a purchasing agent for a small modem and set-top box
company in the "south" for a few months...that counts as "being
in radio engineering!" :-)

Amateur radio FUN is only "ancilliary" to the U.S. amateur radio
SERVICE. Ham radio is all about wearing a Lifestyle mental
uniform, marching in ranks to the morse drumbeat of the 1930s,
and being ready, willing, able to "take over communications" when
all the commercial/professional infrastructure FAILS in an
emergency? That's the thoughts I see expressed in here.

There can be no fun in the ham SERVICE. It is all about duty,
dedication, close-order drill on the proper and correct jargon and
prosigns. [why the name "prosigns" when there is so much
hatred of the pros?] Hupp, too, tree, foah! Beep, beep, beep!

It's a wonderful life. [but all the cast players are mentally SK]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Brian, all the best to you
and your family.

Len Anderson