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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Brian)
Date: 12/26/03 3:01 PM Central Standard Time
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How many amateur radio services do we really need? How many do you
really want?
One radio service with a TIERED license structure, Brain.
It is a "TIRED" radio structure.
Not at all!
It's a "tried and true" license structure.
When "incentive licensing" was re-established in 1968, there were about
250,000
US hams. Today there are about 680,000.
If you want Merit Badges, join the
BSA (or CAP).
License class is not a merit badge.
There is no need to have class distinctions between
hams artificially created by the FCC.
License class is not about class distinctions. It's about qualification
for
privileges. In order to have full privileges, the knowledge to pass the
Extra
is required. Same for the other classes. More knowledge, more privileges.
But, as you and I have agred before, the privileges gained do NOT relate to
the additional knowledge needed for the higher license class.
What is the technical competency difference between an Extra
operating SSB with a TS440 in the 80m Extra voice segment vs a General
operating the same rig at say 3.885Mhz?
This doesn't mean an Extra knows everyhting there is to know about amateur
radio because they passed the tests. It just means that said Extra has
demonstrated the *minimum* knowledge required for full privileges.
The problem, again one we agreed on before, is that granting
additional frequency spectrum doesn't rationally flow from the
additional knowledge required for the higher license class (e.g.
Extra vs General, General vs Tech.
Allow the ham to distinguish
himself or herself, based upon actual achievements.
Such as?
Good question.
Obviously you do not concur with the FCC's "Basis and Purpose" of the
Amateur Radio Service, espeically those that establish the service as
one
of "self-training".
I do.
Then why didn't you train yourself on practical antennas for HF?
-Espeically- "self-training." Obviously you believe that once
you obtain the "Amateur Extra" license that all learning must stop.
There is nothing more to be learned!
Nope, not at all. All it means to have passed the Extra is that said
Extra has
demonstrated the *minimum* knowledge required for full privileges.
True under the current scheme of licensing for the USA. It could
be changed and that is the point raised in this discussion. Should
it be changed and if so, how?
You couldn't be more wrong. Again.
A "single license" concept does not support that premise, Brain.
It does. Unless you believe that once you obtain Amateur Extra that
all learning stops because ther is nothing new to be learned.
See above.
A tiered one does.
No more than a one license ARS.
Depends on the license.
Was that too difficult for you?
Trying hard to keep your position at the top of the hill is sooo
transparent.
Allow the ham to show the world his real achievements, not some
government supported and forced Merit Badge system of false
achievements.
Such as what? Number of antennas not erected? Number of details forgotten
about
an alleged DX operation?
You want one class of license, fine. Here's how to do it:
First, put aside the code test issue and concentrate on the writtens.
Second, close off the Tech and General to new issues.
Third, combine the existing Tech, General and Extra question pools into
one
large question pool. Eliminate any questions that are specific to the Tech
or
General license classes because they won't be issued new any more.
Fourth, a single new 120 question written exam would be generated from the
combined question pool. All new hams would have to pass this test to
become
hams. All would get "Amateur Class" licenses with all privileges.
Fifth, all existing hams would have their license terms automatically
extended
to 10 years beyond the date on which the new rules took effect. No
renewals.
Never happen.
Sixth, all existing hams would have to retest using the new "Amateur
Class"
test within the next 10 years or leave the air.
Never happen. You want a way to kill ham radio, then that'd
do it in a heartbeat...a 10 year heartbeat at the longest.
At the end of 10 years we'd all have the same license class and all have
passed
the same test to get it.
At the end of 10 years we'd have no ham service of any consequence.
Retesting does NOT get any support at all. A handful of people
propose retesting (I oppose retesting)...but that is all. If 1968 incentive
licensing drove some folks away, you can bet the "all existing
hams would need to be retested" will certainly do it.
Why not?
Please tell me any example of something you do in life that
requires anyone to be knowledge retested...other than
something in the medical field such as CPR recertification.
Cheers and happy new year.
Bill K2UNK