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January 3rd 04, 04:09 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
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(N2EY) writes:

I'm not gonna throw any stones at ya, Bill. But please note how
I was asked to shut up a while back when I pointed out some logical
inconsistencies in the written testing....

[nobody can realistically expect you to "shut up," jimmie...:-) ]

Nor can we expect you, Leonard H. Andserson, to heed your own
advice, ie not using belittling endearments when addressing others.

Scumbags rarely do. And you ARE a scumbag.

A few hundred thousand EEs have made career paths WITHOUT
getting a ham license first. IEEE has a bunch of them in their
membership. Are they in the "never would have happened" category?

And a few hundred thousand HAVE....

Your point?

Sure - because that HF knowledge is tested in the written for Tech,
and was tested for in the Novice when it was available.

Nobody can operate on HF without morse code knowledge and
skill. "Everyone knows that."

I'd ask you to please cite where "morse code knowledge" was
mentioned, but I hate to rub your nose in little details...

That's why all the other radio services on HF demand their ops
learn, love, honor, and obey morse code.

NONE of the other "radio services on HF" have the same Basis and
Purpose as the Amateur Service.

Don't they?

No, but then "other radio services" are not the Amateur Radio
Service.

Absolutely. Unlike the olde tyme hammes the FCC is "obviously"
deficient and certainly was in 1958.

It was in regards to placing what was supposed to be a "low
power, short range personal communications service" on to an HF
allocation known to propagate globally...And THEN tell the licensees
to not take advantage of it.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...how dare the FCC allow "civilians" on HF without
the morse test? And on an old, underused ham band, too!

That's not the point, but then you know that.

Lennie's trolling, trolling, trolling...

The whole reason
that service was created by FCC was so that Everyman could get on the
air with inexpensive, easy-to-set-up-and-use radios for personal,
short-range communications. Particularly mobile.

God forbid that "Everyman" should get on HF without being morse
tested! Sacrilege! Heresy!

It wasn't about being "on HF", Your Scumminess...

It was about a SHORT RANGE radio service. The FCC screwed up.
The Amateur Service lost out, the FCC made fools of themselves, and
the intended market for the service lost out since that "service" is
completely useless for the intended application.

And if that's not bad enough, lookit BPL.

"lookit?" [a kit for a toilet? :-) ]

How does BPL get into this? That's a WIRED communications
thing.

A "WIRED" communications service that has the potential to create
havoc to ALL high frequency spectrum users...code or no code.

The main point of all this is that FCC wasn't and isn't an infallible
bunch that Knows What Is Best For Radio. Let alone what is best for
ham radio.

Only tried and true HF morsemen "Know What Is Best For Radio!"

Don't know morse? Shove them in the back of the EM bus up
on VHF and higher. HF belongs to morsemen!

You're still waving that "morsemen" flag, Lennie, and Morse Code
is not germane to this post.

Why are you doing that? To look foolish? You succeeded.

They're simply the folks in charge, who have the unenviable task of balancing
all the competing demands, and doing it with limited resources and under
various forms of pressure.

In civil radio in the USA, the FCC is THE LAW.

Seems you convieniently FORGET that when trying to lay blame for
the state of Amateur Radio testing, Lennie.

So it's up to us hams to make our case and set our path, not FCC.

Only tried and true HF Morsemen Know What Is Best For Ham
Radio!

Then why are YOU still here, Your Putziness?

Mama Lennie take your therapy couch away from you?

Steve, K4YZ