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January 4th 04, 02:41 PM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

Stebe, just because you can spell rational doesn't mean you are
rational.

OK...I will acept taht...however with the caveat that I am MORE
rational than you or your "mentor", Sir Creepy of Kalifornia

Sticks and stones...

You make unsubstantiated assertions you cannot or will not back
up, then ask us to just accept it without the proof.

I merely commented on your Basis and Purpose comment. Then I backed
it up. You need to make a rational comment why the basis and purpose
is satisfied by inventive licensing, but cannot be satisfied by a one
license ARS.

Beacuse it's been PROVEN within the Amateur Community itself that
when rewards are withdrawn for achievement, that achievement stops.
How many people "upgraded" from General to Extra in the pre-Incentive
period, Brain?

But in Jim's scheme, that one license is the Extra license exam.

Now what?

You're starting off the New Year on the wrong foot, Brain...By
making assertions that are not substantiated by factual evidence.

Welcome to 2004, MinnieLennie.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, you said that the Basis and Purpose of self-learning cannot be
achieved after a person has achieved their first license in a
one-license system. That the Basis and Purpose can only be achieved
in a multiple-license system.

A "one license" system does not promote learning.

Why not? What License have you been working toward since you earned
Extra?

Registered Nurse.

GROL.

Commercial Pilot with Instructor and Instrument

Noble. But what has any of that to do with Amateur RAdio?

A "one license" system promotes stagnation and mediocrity. Look
what a "classless" society did to Central Europe for 70+ years.

Are you just begging for Len to come in here with his Hitler remarks?

Ahhhhh, yes...Lennie and his assertions of affiliation with the
Nazis for anyone who dares to cross HIS version of Life In Radio.

YOUR mentor, Brain...YOU said so.

Which classless society were you referring to?

You are an idiot!

Not when compared to you, Brain.

Mos definitely when compared to me.

As deftly pointed out by Jim, N2EY, the TRUE stagnation of the
Amateur Radio Service occured BEFORE Incentive Licensing.

Did not.

OK...Need to go over the number again, Brain?

250,000 BEFORE Incentive Licensing, over 600,000 after.

Is there something in that math I missed?

Yes. Stating numbers is not performing a mathematical calculation.

Was the way the FCC implemented it wrong? Sure it was. But the
system worked.

I asked if self-learning occurs after the Extra license is achieved.

Sure it does. And there are some cases where the licensee brings
his "self-learning" with him/her from an engineering
point-of-view...but thsoe folks are few and far between.

Give me a rational answer why it cannot occur after someone achieves a
license in a one-license system.

Can it occur? Sure it can.

Thank you. Finally an honest answer from one of you PCTA. I'll mark
my calendar.

You get LOTS of "honest answers". That you care to ignore them
is YOUR choice, not a lack of facts.

I discard irrational answers. Yours are typically irrational.

Does it usually or routinely occur?

Routinely. Again, you proactively ignore them.

So if learning routinely occurs after one obtains an Extra license,
why can learning NOT routinely occur in a one license system where the
license is obtained with the equivalent of the Extra written exam?

Your bust.

I have a "chest."

Nope.

Doesn't occur after Extra either. And ex-communicated Jim's proposal
was for all the pools to be combined, so it was the equavilant of
Extra.

So, in the end, you just don't know what you're talking about.

Uh huh...right.

Hey, another mark on my calendar.

Now, here's one for YOU, Brain...cite for me some grand example
of "one size fits all and promotes learning" example from ANY aspect
of our society...One that can't be refuted at some level.

No.

That's what I thought.

I'll name a "many sizes doesn't fit all" example: Incentive Licensing.

I'll be waiting, but I won't be holding my breath.

Steve, K4YZ

Oh, please do.

Sorry...I have things to do.

Just don't breath while you're doing them.