It isn't that we don't have enough 'fone' spectrum as you call it, we do.
No, the problem is that we can't operate phone on all the frequencies that
the DX can. This is true on 80, 40, 20 and 15 (30 too, but let's not go
there).

Hi Alun .... Got a point there ....I have heard on fone (sic)that some
foreign ops are very happy with this arrangement. I am in agreement that
the 40 situation needed attention. Hopefully this will make things better
for everyone. As for 30 ...well not bad generally but the Espanol pirates,
fishing boats and big signal data do stink up the neighborhood. I know I
know we are secondary users ....



As you don't work phone DX I wouldn't really expect you to be aware of
this, much less care,

No no Alun I do care ...I see the problems that are there are making the
service less enjoyable for all hams. I wish that I had the constitution to
put up with the stuff I hear up band but I do not. This service-hobby is at
the forefront of the idea of manners and procedures maximizing the enjoyment
for all.




but there it is. I have no more desire than you do to
see any 'gallbladder nets' further down the bands.

We collectively Alun have let these problems fester and boil over to the
extent that enjoyment of this service is compromised by what we hear on the
bands today. I would venture to say that a $25 to $50 a year fee for a
ticket would separate the proverbial wheat and chaff. That would give the
feds the resources to properly police the roost but given the present
resolve of the FCC ...oh well ... and the fact that a lot of hams still have
their communion money ..... The idea that we are self policing is just so
much vaporware mantra.

God Bless and good DX there Alun ..73 Tom KI3R