Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil Ding Dong Schoolmaster
brandishing his Ruler writes:
Len Five Decades Over 21 but not acting a day over eleven wrote:
In article , Dave Heil snarly
aka "Mr. Warmth" writes:
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil
writes:
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article ,
(William) writes:
Larrah, at what age did you pass the Extra exam elements?
Mental or physical age? :-)
At which age did you pass an amateur radio license exam, Leonard?
Never tried, snarly dave.
Well, there you have it.
Have what? I don't have any amateur license. Got several others.
In the context of this newsgroup, that means just what?
Yup. You need to UPGRADE your neurons.
Hint: You made a general statement. I gave you a specific answer.
You didn't like the answer. You never do. TS. :-)
You'd better re-read it, Leona. A question reading "at which age did
you pass an amateur radio license exam?" is not a general statement. It
is a specific question. Your answer included "Got several others".
That has zip to do with an amateur radio exam. You seem to have
straight lined.
Snarly dave, I don't care about your amateur wonderfulness and
vindictiveness and bigotry to non-amateurs. I'm a pro, like it or no.
If you don't care, why are you still haunting a newsgroup dealing with
amateur radio?
Boooooo! I haunt you! :-)
Uhhhhh, I'm not a newsgroup.
Snarly dave, I said I don't care about YOUR amateur wonderfulness.
Be fair, Leonidas, you don't care about anyone's amateur wonderfulness.
It is quite apparent from your posts of these eight or so years.
YOURS, snarly dave. You are NOT U.S. amateur radio. [thank
the Lord...the League membership drive would be in hell if so...]
Oh, but I'm very much a part of U.S. amateur radio and I've been part of
amateur radio in five other countries. You aren't part of amateur radio
anywhere on the planet. You aren't a part of the ARRL. Your
connections to amateur radio are simply that you've commented to the FCC
about the service in which you do not participate and that you post
here.
It is clear that you are not a radio amateur and that
you are not, after all these years, "getting into amateur radio".
Snarly dave, it isn't in your power to demand "motivations" since
you are NOT a moderator in here, a judge, a jury, and certainly
not an executioner (although I'm sure you would relish the task
and with a side of fries to go with that).
I demanded nothing, Windy. I made a statement. Your response isn't
required, much less demanded.
I've been trying to argue the elimination of the morse code test
for ANY U.S. radio license.
Based on what--your years of experience, exposure, knowledge of?
What's it to ya, bub?
Problem is, some of you and your ilk (ilk are similar to huns but
are not, unfortunately, a vanishing species) DEMAND "motivation"
and some kind of perverse "unquestioning love of a service" that
is supposed to be a fun, recreational activity about radio. As a
result you spend hours and waste Internet bandwidth insulting all
those who do not agree with your wonderfulness, etc.
Unquestioning love? You haven't demonstrated interest enough to obtain
the most basic license available. Waste of internet bandwidth? My
total newsgroup posts over eight years wouldn't equal more than a couple
of weeks of your insulting output. Quit wasting bandwidth *snicker*,
Leonard.
Haunt
some radio professionals, using the endearing manner you've displayed
here and see how long they put up with your condesent.
It's "condescension," not "condesent" or even 'condiment' although
it must spice up your life on here.
I'll defer to you as the expert condescendent here.
I've worked with professionals in radio and electronics a long time
and they don't come across with the kind of stuff you and the
gunnery nurse and other "proud SERVICE members" do.
You've likely kept some of your insulting behavior in check when around
them then.
I worked professionally in radio and electronics.
Of course you did. In the "foreign service," right? :-)
That's right, though it is "Foreign Service"; and in broadcasting and in
the military and in industrial electronic component sales.
[NBC likes the term "fleecing of America" and that might apply? :-) ]
N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact:
No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio
amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr.
Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic
slurs, excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."
A number of us here have done so or do so.
Yes. And? :-)
....and did you have trouble connecting the earlier sentence with the one
below?
What sets you apart is that you are a non-amateur who
seems to get his jollies taking potshots at radio amateurs.
Only CERTAIN amateurs...such as those pretending to be radio gods
and the like. Look in a mirror to meet one.
The facts would prove that untrue. Terms like "Hum Radio", "beeping",
"Church of St. Hiram" would indicate otherwise. As to the radio god
thing, you have, in the past, said that I was a god, then that I wasn't
a god, then that I was a god, then that I wasn't a god. Why don't the
several of you inhabiting the tired old body of Leonard H. Anderson come
to some sort of concensus?
The salient point should be that I am still here!
Well, it is A salient point but I wouldn't call it THE salient point.
I prefer to think of it as an unpleasant reality.
There have been many
others participating in here that did not possess amateur licenses.
I can think of only a couple. Did they all have multiple personalities?
Most, nearly all in fact, quit, dropped out, probably in irritation at the
self-important personal wonderfulness expressed by those definitely
NOT representative-of-the-amateur-community-but-insisted-they-
ARE-amateur-radio. :-)
The more likely scenario is that either decided that they really weren't
interested in amateur radio or they have become radio amateurs. You're
the rare exception who can't seem to make up his mind :-) :-)
You can't handle persistence by others who oppose your viewpoints.
Really? I've been responding to your posts since 1996. When will it be
determined that I can't handle you?
All you can do is attempt insult and demeaning of those persons
instead of addressing the subjects.
I've done both. Insulting you and demeaning you aren't hard, take
little time (compared to the body of work you've undertaken over the
past eight years) and are richly rewarding. You are to amateur radio
what a chainsaw is to surfing.
QED most of today's mail package.
I sent no packages in the mail today.
With all those many years of amateur radio experience you could have
been doing great things for U.S. amateur radio...instead of trying to
"get" certain personalities on this newsgroup. It's counterproductive
and wastes bandwidth and others' time.
For a "PROFESSIONAL IN COMMUNICATIONS" you don't know much. There is no
wasted bandwidth. It is either there or not there. Beside that, I pay
for my access. Don't you? I've done my share for the DXing community
within amateur radio. What have you done for amateur radio in, oh,
let's say the past eight years of posting here?
You do NOT get to choose anything about what anyone is "supposed"
to say, to reply to, or anydamnthingelse. You keep thinking you do
every time you put on the SS uniform with the monocle. Try keeping
the armband off, it's so 40-ish.
Get it straight, Len. This is an open newsgroup dealing with amateur
radio. You are in no way involved with amateur radio. I am free to
choose to respond to anything posted here and shall do so as the spirit
moves me.
Get it straight, snarly dave. This is an open newsgroup, without any
moderator, accessible by anyone.
Gee, I believe I said as much.
If you get honked by anyone with an opposing view, you can't fall back
on insults and pejoratives and nastygrams against the person instead
of the subject. THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK. [obviously not...:-) ]
It wasn't worked very well for you, Leona. Is that what you meant by
"obviously not"?
Try not to "threaten" anyone. That only makes you look more like the
Waffen SS officer you seem to emulate.
Is a Waffen SS officer a part of that Prussian thing you've brought up
or is this now the "real deal" Nazi stuff? What threat has been
directed your way, Windy?
Remember something which the gunnery nurse must have forgotten:
Do as the spirit moves you, NOT as the spirits move you.
You seem to become less rational each day.
If something doesn't work, stubbornness isn't a cure. You are doing
it WRONG when no results come. CHANGE.
Wow! You're a guy who could use some material from your own play book.
Shave the head and learn to smile. That will make you more like
Colonel Klink. Lose several pounds too.
As a last resort, you can always go to your strength and bring in the
Nazi images.
Nein, Herr Robust, Wehrmacht, perhaps the military of Prussia of old,
not the "nazis." Das ist der "image" presented.
The Waffen SS is part of the military of the Prussia of old?
"That seemed to write itself." Remember that braggadoccio? :-)
Something from your Ouija Board?
Let's see. Amateur radio newsgroup. I'm a radio amateur.
Congratulations. I'll bet you have a nice license certificate suitable for
framing.
I'll bet you don't.
Now, back to
the question: What does your comment have to do with Larry's amateur
radio license and of concern is his job to you?
Back to your official position as Ding Dong Schoolmaster: Whoinheck
appointed you anything that you can DEMAND answers? :-)
I find it quite amusing that a question from someone becomes a "DEMAND"
in your mind.
Quit shaking that ruler around. You can't slap anyone's wrist for
writing anything in here. Try to realize that you are POWERLESS
in that regard.
Yes, master. I am POWERLESS. I am under your complete control.
It seems to be karma
that forces you to live up to the N2EY profile of your likely actions.
TAFKA Reverend Jim has his own problems and those are not your
concern.
How would you know?
He's just another newsgroupie but with a bad case of
thinking he has to comment on everyone's postings all the time. :-)
Ummmm, isn't that what you do here?
Actually, old boy, you have quite the attitude toward radio amateurs.
ONLY to CERTAIN ones. Tag, you're IT. :-)
Only certain folks, like those involved in "Hum Radio" and those who are
ARRL members? Only those who support morse code testing? Only those
who disagree with you on the issue of a minimum age for the amateur
radio in which you are not a participant?
The best man at my wedding is still a radio amateur. The best work
manager I ever had is still a radio amateur...
....and in all this time, you STILL aren't licensed. That must be a
pretty bitter pill.
now moved to mid-
California where my wife and I were overnight guests. I don't have any
"attitude" towards the group (or "community" as some wish to lump it),
just CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.
The group of individuals grows ever larger.
You're insulting, rude and immature.
Self-professed gods seem to get that impression! TS. :-)
I've never made such a profession. The only person who has done so
(you), has seen fit to reverse himself a number of times. :-(
Tsk, tsk, tsk, "some things seem to write themselves," don't they?
A lot of your stuff seems to write itself.
If you're waiting for radio
amateurs to be impressed by your professional credentials, you're likely
going to be disappointed.
Oh, my, judging all others by the things YOU do? :-)
Er, I don't believe I've ever expected radio amateurs to be impressed by
my professional credentials.
Poor baby, haven't you realized that I am retired?
Oh, I've realized it, Len. Nobody but a person with lots of empty time
on his hands could produce your r.r.a.p. output.
I don't HAVE to
"impress anyone."
Lucky for you that it's so. It hasn't prevented you from trying though.
I did what I did. Now I don't have to take any
BS* from anyone on how "important" THEY are.
If, by important, you mean that they hold amateur radio licenses and you
don't, I'm afraid you're wrong. You do have to take it, and often.
Neither am I
"impressed" by complex radios or electronic systems, having been
around many such things, some far more complex than any product
of Ten-Tec. If you have one and are amazed by it, be my guest.
Just quit making out How Good You Are Because You Have One.
wHat GaVE yOu ThE idEA THat i bEliEVe ThAT I tHiNK i'M gOOd BeCAusE I
"hAvE onE"? It's more like: "I have one and it's good". You aren't
impressed with it because 1) you don't have one and 2)you don't have a
license to use one.
I got into the whole big entire world of radio because it was very
interesting, a fun job despite some obvious challenges in some
technological areas. It also paid well if a good job was done. I got
paid reasonably well. As TAFKA Rev. Jim once quoted: "It ain't
braggin' if ya done it." I did it.
But if someone else did anything, you are quite ready to prove the
validity of the N2EY profile of your likely actions. When it comes to
amateur radio, you didn't do it.
It wasn't a casual, throwaway mention and your newsgroup statements of
the past are here for a long, long time.
Like I've said many times, feel free to cut and paste everything I ever
wrote from Google archives.
Your permission isn't required. I've quoted some of your material from
time to time. So have others.
Get your own newsgroup if you like.
I'm quite content here, thanks. I am, after all, a radio amateur.
Will that cure your vindictiveness? I doubt it. You will be angry
anyway. It's your personality.
Thus sayeth, the original Grumpy Old Man.
I haven't changed my mind about you, Len.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, stubborn as they come (you should be sitting in front
of your orion when that happens).
You will NOT ever retract anything you've said, you will rationalize the
beejums out of what you said in order to make you look good to
yourself. Few give a darn. Feel self-triumphant as much as you want.
It's a free country. Except in this newsgroup where one MUST have
an amateur callsign officially bestowed on their cub scout uniforms
or claim they have one while remaining anomalous. :-)
I'll happily retract anything which I feel is in error. What statements
of your have you retracted, old boy?
You're a victim of your own inertia and braggadocio.
Nope. Just a Fatal Attraction to balloon-popping of the self-important,
the self-grandiose, the self-proclaimed god-gurus of hum radio. :-)
That's so much fun! :-)
I'm sure it is, Walter. Give my regards to the rest of the Mitty clan.
To twist a phrase: If you haven't done it, it
is most certainly bragging. You haven't obtained a license and aren't
likely to do so.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, snarly dave. Still at it. You never learn.
I have obtained licenses (note the plural) in radio. Amateur hasn't
been one of them. That includes station as well as operator.
None of the "plural" has anything to do with amateur radio. You are to
amateur radio what a butter churn is to house painting.
I may still get a hum license. I may not. Why is that a concern?
Gee, I dunno, Mister "Extra right out of the box", poster of eight years
worth of inexperienced views on how amateur radio should be regulated.
I'm still a citizen of the United States of America with all the rights
thereof. No self-important, self-officious SOB* is going to take
those rights away from me. At least one other SOB* tried but
failed (miserably).
Let's see. You have the right to be heard by your government. Check.
You have the right to post here. Check. I'm sorry, I can't find the
rights addressing freedom from disagreement, derision or laughter.
Maybe you can post them in your free time.
Amateur radio is supposed to be a fun recreational activity involving
radio and the radio arts.
You'll have to take my word for it, Leonard. It is all of those things
and more.
From the actions of a few who do NOT
adequately represent the "amateur community," it seems to be a
vindictive group of ego-honed Cassius Clay imitators who assume
the invisible mantle of gods of radio. They should get better tailors
and see what happened to Muhammed Ali in later life.
Any radio amateur is part of the amateur radio community. You are not a
part of that community. You can't even decide who is a god or not a god
within that community. I'll give you a hint. It would likely not be
someone from outside the community.
I checked up on Muhammed Ali. Like you, he never became a radio
amateur.
Unlike you, he never tried to tell radio amateurs what was good for
them.
A few in
that category think that amateur radio is a "service" like the military
and assume rank and insignia demanding respect (and salutes).
Those should be arrested for impersonating officers. :-)
What's the penalty for impersonating a radio amateur?
The ARRL does not adequately represent the "amateur community"
either since their published numbers indicate a decided member-
ship less than a quarter of all licensed U.S. amateurs. They like to
think they control everything but they don't.
You tell 'em, Len. YOU CONTROL everything in amateur radio *snicker*.
The more-public access
granted by the Internet has shown the FCC that the ARRL is just a
special interest group and not really that representative.
You are to the ARRL what you are to amateur radio, not a participant.
Consider yourself stuffed.
It's after supper and I am adequately filled, thank you for your concern.
My wife is a good cook, we have a newly remodeled kitchen, a
comfortable income and life, yet she scolds me for playing with
the seven-year-olds in radio expertise in a newsgroup. She's right.
:-)
I'll bet she says that when you play with the seven-year-olds in the
neighborhood too. :-) :-)
It must be nice having the only wife who is a good cook, the only folks
with a remodeled kitchen (what was wrong the old one?), the only one
with a comfortable income and comfortable life. The rest of us are
envious, I'm sure. Tell us about your ham shack, won't you?
Dave K8MN